Meteore hits Russian City.

[GostHacked]

This was 99% a comet that broke up violently in our atmosphere. Lake Cheko is thought to be the sight of the impact of what was left.

Makes more sense, a comet is not as solid as a meteor, so would create a lot of damage without leaving much evidence, or fragments. Also since this stuff is from space, it could be radioactive from it just being in space with all the cosmic rays and such, not sure.

[DogOnPorch]

Makes more sense, a comet is not as solid as a meteor, so would create a lot of damage without leaving much evidence, or fragments. Also since this stuff is from space, it could be radioactive from it just being in space with all the cosmic rays and such, not sure.

If you look-up Lake Cheko on Google Maps, you can see it is a bit of an anomaly. Everything not shielded is subject to cosmic rays in space.

[bush_cheney2004]

Peekskill Meteor:

A 12.4 kg

meteorite

, classified as an H6

chondrite

, that fell in Peekskill, New York, on Oct. 9, 1992, penetrating the trunk of a 1980 Chevy Malibu that was sitting in its driveway. The descent of the space rock was witnessed by thousands in the eastern United States as a brilliant

fireball

and was caught on at least 14 amateur videotapes.

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/P/Peekskill_meteorite.html

Edited February 17, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[DogOnPorch]

Yes...I saw a meteor similar to the Peekskill over Northern BC back in the 1980s. Spectacular...breaking-up into smaller bits as it came Earthward. Doubt it made it to Earth to take out a Chevy, though.

[Guest]

I thought the dashboard cameras that recorded the meteor were in cop cars. Apparently not. The second video here is insane.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/02/chelyabinsk_meteor_videos_why_do_russians_film_their_car_accidents.html

[Sleipnir]

The evidence points more to a nuclear blast covering a massive 500,000 acres and no impact crater!

The air burst in Russian left no impact crater

[CPCFTW]

How's that space program coming along you ask? Well, not too good I'd say given how the natural resource window through which our species might shoehorn itself into space was co-opted by the 1% for their own purposes.

I think we probably only get one chance at this shoehorning business. Might as well keep partying like there's no tomorrow I guess.

What are you talking about? We've theoretically had the ability to nuke ourselves to another solar system since the 60s.

"Natural resource window through which our species might shoehorn itself into space was co-opted by the 1% for their own purposes."

Where do you environmentalists come up with this drivel?

[eyeball]

We've theoretically had the ability to nuke ourselves to another solar system since the 60s.

Excuse me but, you said something about drivel?

[DogOnPorch]

Excuse me but, you said something about drivel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA

[eyeball]

...the NERVA was deemed ready to design into a working vehicle by NASA, creating a small political crisis in Congress because of the danger a Mars exploration program presented to the national budget.

We can't even nuke ourselves to the next planet never mind the next star.

[DogOnPorch]

We can't even nuke ourselves to the next planet never mind the next star.

I assure you NERVA was quite real and the only reason it didn't go forward was the general slowdown after Apollo...and the removal of Nixon.

[eyeball]

I don't doubt it's real, but the reason for the general slowdown that's now slowing to a bare crawl is our inability to muster our resources. We're great at concentrating them but to what purpose?

[DogOnPorch]

I don't doubt it's real, but the reason for the general slowdown that's now slowing to a bare crawl is our inability to muster our resources. We're great at concentrating them but to what purpose?

Most folks think Galaxy and Solar System mean the same thing.

[DogOnPorch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoiVej1rccs

[CPCFTW]

Excuse me but, you said something about drivel?

Project Orion.

[eyeball]

Most folks think Galaxy and Solar System mean the same thing.

Really? Hmmm maybe that explains why so many people seem to think the world and it's resources just go on forever and ever.

Fisheries ministers where I live still remark that there's so much fish out in the ocean that guys like Jimmy Parttison can walk on them.

[eyeball]

Project Orion.

How are you going to get all your fuel into space? Balloons?

[CPCFTW]

How are you going to get all your fuel into space? Balloons?

Nuke it up there, like I said.

[DogOnPorch]

Project Orion.

Orion was still on the drawing boards. But had it gone ahead, by now I'm sure we'd be in year X of the Orion probe's transit between our star and perhaps Barnard's star or the Centauri system.

[DogOnPorch]

How are you going to get all your fuel into space? Balloons?

Gas Giants provide excellent filling stations to the stars.

[CPCFTW]

Orion was still on the drawing boards. But had it gone ahead, by now I'm sure we'd be in year X of the Orion probe's transit between our star and perhaps Barnard's star or the Centauri system.

True. That's why I said we've theoretically had the ability to do so. We have the technology. We just are unable to test the nuke propulsion design.

Edited February 18, 2013 by CPCFTW

[DogOnPorch]

The anti-nuke crowd would have had a fit, of course. Radiation in space!

[sharkman]

The latest update on the Russian meteor says it was actually about 10,000 tons with a diameter of 55 feet. So it was bigger than a house, but current technology coudn't detect it? Does that sound a little strange?

[Bonam]

The latest update on the Russian meteorsays it was actually about 10,000 tons with a diameter of 55 feet. So it was bigger than a house, but current technology coudn't detect it? Does that sound a little strange?

It's not that the technology to detect it doesn't exist; it certainly does. It's that the investment in detecting such objects is not sufficient to guarantee we'll catch all of them in advance. Things like this cost money, and the current mood is to cut any spending that isn't an entitlement/handout/bailout, not fund space programs and telescopes which the ignorant public sees as a fanciful and extravagant waste of money.

Edited February 19, 2013 by Bonam

[eyeball]

Hey, we're entitled to our billionaires.

I grew up mesmerized by Apollo and 2001 A Space Odyssey and never imagined I wouldn't one day be in space living the dream. Even in the big city I could easily see the rings around Saturn through my telescope. Then I grew up.

Sorry...you were saying something about a waste of money?