Why our mindsets are so different

[bush_cheney2004]

But Canadians can skip the line with a TN visa

So can Mexicans...but what about the fraidy cat ones who are so scared of guns...guns...GUNS !

Professionals of Canada or Mexico may work in the U.S. under the following conditions:

• Applicant is a citizen of Canada or Mexico;
  
• Profession is on the NAFTA list;
  
• Position in the U.S. requires a NAFTA professional;
  
• Mexican or Canadian applicant is to work in a prearranged full-time or part-time job, for a U.S. employer (see documentation required). Self employment is not permitted;
  
• Professional Canadian or Mexican citizen has the qualifications of the profession.
  
• Professional Canadian or Mexican citizen must not be afraid of guns or gun culture
  

[Guest Manny]

"Why our mindsets are so different."

[Wilber]

I'm not, as the Canadian immigrants have to get into a long line of many others trying to get into the USA, even for student or work visas with sponsorship. There are more American immigrants from around the world than the entire population of Canada. Maybe they don't know about all those "guns"....or more likely...don't care.

As most Americans coming to Canada do so under the NAFTA visa process which would be reciprical, what's your point?

Edited January 22, 2013 by Wilber

[bush_cheney2004]

As most Americans coming to Canada do so under the NAFTA visa process which would be reciprical, what's your point?

The point is obvious.....your personal fear of guns....guns....guns....does not matter to them. If it's important to you, stay out of the USA.

[Wilber]

The point is obvious.....your personal fear of guns....guns....guns....does not matter to them. If it's important to you, stay out of the USA.

Or more likely, as the article says, people are seeing more reasons to live in Canada these days.

[bush_cheney2004]

Or more likely, as the article says, people are seeing more reasons to live in Canada these days.

Great...it will be like old times when Vietnam draft dodgers went to Canada...then came back to the USA and all those guns...guns...guns.

[Wilber]

Great...it will be like old times when Vietnam draft dodgers went to Canada...then came back to the USA and all those guns...guns...guns.

Some did but many are still here. Running away from something is not the same as going to something. Yours is not the only country people move to for opportunity.

[bush_cheney2004]

Some did but many are still here. Running away from something is not the same as going to something. Yours is not the only country people move to for opportunity.

True, but it is the most popular choice by far, despite guns...guns...guns.

[Wilber]

True, but it is the most popular choice by far, despite guns...guns...guns.

I hope there are always people moving back and forth across our borders and it makes sense that it will be cyclical. Right now the cycle has over three times as many Americans coming north as Canadians going south. I don't know what they are running away from but it isn't the draft. Maybe it's guns guns guns. You brought it up, not me.

Edited January 22, 2013 by Wilber

[bush_cheney2004]

I hope there are always people moving back and forth across our borders and it makes sense that it will be cyclical. Right now the cycle has over three times as many Americans coming north as Canadians going south. I don't know what they are running away from but it isn't the draft. You brought it up, not me.

I'm not worried.....remember...the US has ten times the population, a favorite metric for arguments around here. So the "cycle" still has a long way to go to catch up with the larger historical number of Canadians (and millions of other nationals) going to the USA. The relevant point is that guns...guns...guns has not been a pressing issue despite your stated concern(s).

[Wilber]

I'm not worried.....remember...the US has ten times the population, a favorite metric for arguments around here. So the "cycle" still has a long way to go to catch up with the larger historical number of Canadians (and millions of other nationals) going to the USA. The relevant point is that guns...guns...guns has not been a pressing issue despite your stated concern(s).

I'm not either, despite the disparity in numbers, Americans made up only just over 3% of immigrants to Canada in 2010 making them the 5th largest source.

I just said that armed guards in all your schools would prevent me from moving my school aged children to your country. I don't think I am alone in that.

[bush_cheney2004]

...I just said that armed guards in all your schools would prevent me from moving my school aged children to your country. I don't think I am alone in that.

Well, I would never move a school aged child to Toronto, before or after they put "armed guards" into 27 high schools.

[guyser]

Well, I would never move a school aged child to Toronto, before or after they put "armed guards" into 27 high schools.

Of course not.

Why would you, your own schools already have armed guards and have for some time now.

Edited January 22, 2013 by guyser

[bush_cheney2004]

Of course not.

Why would you, your own schools already have armed guards and have for some time now.

My school district does not have armed guards...in fact...they are "gun free zones". Easy target for Lanza types.

[guyser]

My school district does not have armed guards...in fact...they are "gun free zones". Easy target for Lanza types.

Neither does mine, but thats immaterial really.

No need to look elsewhere when your point can be made looking in your own backyard

[bush_cheney2004]

Neither does mine, but thats immaterial really.

No need to look elsewhere when your point can be made looking in your own backyard

I agree...as posted long before.....Toronto already has "armed guards" in schools.

[guyser]

I agree...as posted long before ....Minnesota and Toronto already has "armed guards" in schools.

FIFY

[Guest Manny]

Both countries were created by immigration, doh

[bush_cheney2004]

FIFY

No...I would not make the grammar mistake...."has" vs. "have". Better stick to hacking your own posts instead.

[Wilber]

Well, I would never move a school aged child to Toronto, before or after they put "armed guards" into 27 high schools.

Neither would I but we don't have a gun lobby and a bunch of politicians who want to put armed guards in all our schools.

[bush_cheney2004]

Neither would I but we don't have a gun lobby and a bunch of politicians who want to put armed guards in all our schools.

Agreed....Toronto's kneejerk reaction to a single shooting put armed guards in the schools even without the NRA "gun lobby:.

[Wilber]

Agreed....Toronto's kneejerk reaction to a single shooting put armed guards in the schools even without the NRA "gun lobby:.

Yup. Toronto the Good. I don't really know the circumstances, I just think the emphasis should be on looking for ways to keep guards out of our schools, not reasons to put them in.

Edited January 22, 2013 by Wilber

[bush_cheney2004]

Yup. Toronto the Good. I don't really know the circumstances, I just think the emphasis should be on looking for ways to keep guards out of our schools, not reasons to put them in.

That's fine, but it was easy to point to such an action in a Canadian province even as NRA suggestions are ridiculed, and as you stated, there is no powerful "gun lobby" at play.

[Guest Manny]

That's fine, but it was easy to point to such an action in a Canadian province even as NRA suggestions are ridiculed, and as you stated, there is no powerful "gun lobby" at play.

It's an isolated incident, in that it only affected one school. they had a specific problem there and they had to deal with it in a specific way. I don't even know if it is still in place, or will remain in place from now on. But that's quite different from something being suggested as a national policy, everywhere in the country. Even at small remote schools in small towns, where there's never been a problem. I think if this was suggested in Canada people would definitely have something more to say.

[bush_cheney2004]

It's an isolated incident, in that it only affected one school.

It was 27 high schools on the "East Side".

But that's quite different from something being suggested as a national policy, everywhere in the country.

The NRA has no such authority in the U.S.

I think if this was suggested in Canada people would definitely have something more to say.

As would people in the United States.