Michael Hardner Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 If you want to pretend that a denomination like the catholic church with over a billion members is just a sub-group or individuals then you should probably move on. The entire 1 billion Catholics support harmful acts ? How so ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 The organization supports them from the top. The members that continue to support the organization lend support to those acts and positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleipnir Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 The organization supports them from the top. The members that continue to support the organization lend support to those acts and positions. The same logic could be used for people supporting child abuse through purchasing goods through walmart or other companies that are known to employ child labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hey those kids would be unemployed if it wasn't for sweatshops!! ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Starving, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 The organization supports them from the top. The members that continue to support the organization lend support to those acts and positions. Kind of like blaming all Americans for the policies of America or all Muslims for 911 I guess. Well, lots of people do that but I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Atheists are beheaded in Islamic nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hey those kids would be unemployed if it wasn't for sweatshops!! ~ Sweatshops are good for the nations that they are in. The people who live in those nations aren't asking the sweatshops to leave, they are asking that more be built. These sweatshops provide wages that are much higher then the national average and much more then can be made by farming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) I certainly don't think that atheists are persecuted in North America, but here's a great example of discrimination: Arkansas (Article 19, Section 1): "No person that denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."Maryland (Article 37): "That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution." Mississippi (Article 14, Section 245): "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state." North Carolina (Article 6, Section 8): "The following persons shall be disqualified from office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God." South Carolina (Article 17, Section 4): "No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution." Tennessee (Article 9, Section 2): "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state." Texas (Article 1, Section 4): "No religious tests shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall anyone be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being." Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/339708#ixzz2H2CEpAQT Edited January 4, 2013 by The_Squid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Discrimination is a form of persecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Discrimination is a form of persecution. That's too vague. Canada grants refugee status to persecuted groups. I am absolutely positive that atheists from western nations do not fit the criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 That's too vague. Canada grants refugee status to persecuted groups. I am absolutely positive that atheists from western nations do not fit the criteria. You're using a legal definition of persecution, which is not what we're talking about here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyrie Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 You're using a legal definition of persecution, which is not what we're talking about here. I personally think he has a point though. Discrimination and persecution are two VERY different things, and I don't think they should be so lumped together. However, I think that discrimination CAN get to a point where it could be considered prosecution, especially if it's the government doing this discrimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwontariohunter Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Yes, in order to keep the make believe stories alive persecution is needed. Fortunately the walls are crumbling. Reason is slowly starting to infiltrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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