DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Let me copy and paste for you: "Judeo-Christian (also Abrahamism) is a term..." and from http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Abrahamism "The largest Abrahamic religions are, in chronological order of founding, Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Baha'i Faith." As the same page explains...not the same thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamism Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 It doesn't matter that's not my point. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 It doesn't matter that's not my point. Islam wasn't even a factor when the term was coined; so what influence are you going to claim Islam had on the West's creation during the Enlightenment? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 What are you even talking about now? This has nothing to do with anything I said. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 What are you even talking about now? This has nothing to do with anything I said. You're apparently trying to say the Judeo-Christian tradition is part and parcel with Islam...which it isn't. If this isn't what you were trying to say, why did you post the link? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 You're apparently trying to say the Judeo-Christian tradition is part and parcel with Islam...which it isn't. If this isn't what you were trying to say, why did you post the link? It is. I'm not really sure why you're denying it, but this is all an aside to the fact that there are all kinds of Muslims in North America that you wouldn't even know by looking at them. They are Westernized and secularized just like the vast majority of Christians in North America. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 It is. I'm not really sure why you're denying it, but this is all an aside to the fact that there are all kinds of Muslims in North America that you wouldn't even know by looking at them. They are Westernized and secularized just like the vast majority of Christians in North America. Islam is NOT part of the Judeo-Christian tradition...though, no doubt, you'd like your Newspeak history to reflect your new 'reality'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Islam is an Abrahamic religion that recognizes Jesus and Moses, and Allah is the same God. This is all really beside the point though. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Islam is an Abrahamic religion that recognizes Jesus and Moses, and Allah is the same God. This is all really beside the point though. Of course all three are connected. But, again, that's not what the Judeo-Christian tradition refers to. Working 9-5, possibly with a break or two...Sundays (et al) off if yer lucky...is part of the Judeo-Christian tradition, for example. This clashes often with Islam's various pillars...most notably the Salah. http://myupperwest.com/upper-west-side/cabbies-praying-at-uws-mosque-create-traffic-nightmare-along-w-72nd-riverside-boulevard/ Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 7, 2012 Report Posted November 7, 2012 Here's a golden oldie. Connections: The Wheel of Fortune...the episode on the transfer of Greek and Islamic knowledge to Medieval Europe thus forming the clock ridden world we now live in. To be more precise to the earlier post, it was the Protestant Work Ethic that created the break between the church and toil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mhQHjWEZc http://www.youtube.com/user/JamesBurkeConnection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sleipnir Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Islam is an Abrahamic religion that recognizes Jesus and Moses, and Allah is the same God. This is all really beside the point though. The reason it seems, the way I see it, that Islam and Christianity seems different when they're the same thing has to do with where the religion evolved from a common ancestor. Christianity evolved primarily in the European regions from moving outside of the Middle East, while the Islam remained and evolved in the Middle East. Christianity and Islam are genetically the same religion but interpret differently due to different climate and social factors. At least that how I see it. Like a German Shepherd and a Bichon frise - they look different but are genetically the same. Edited November 8, 2012 by Sleipnir Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 The reason it seems, the way I see it, that Islam and Christianity seems different when they're the same thing has to do with where the religion evolved from a common ancestor. Christianity evolved primarily in the European regions from moving outside of the Middle East, while the Islam remained and evolved in the Middle East. Christianity and Islam are genetically the same religion but interpret differently due to different climate and social factors. At least that how I see it. Like a German Shepherd and a Bichon frise - they look different but are genetically the same. The Byzantine Empire was officially Christian. It was Omar and the fellows that followed Big M's death that changed all that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Yes, this fundamentalist Muslim believes that the great Allah sent down this storm upon the US because of her policies and he is grateful for it. This attitude must be struck down immediately. Any growth of anti American sentiment must be stamped out immediately else we plummet into anarchy with Chinese communists as our masters. :lol: Mr Canada you're hilarious! But what about the Christian fundamentalists who also call Sandy a divine message against America ? Will they bring the Chinese masters upon us too? Stamp them out too? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Mr Canada you're hilarious! But what about the Christian fundamentalists who also call Sandy a divine message against America ? Will they bring the Chinese masters upon us too? Stamp them out too? Do you view Zafar Bangash as a fundamentalist? He's often asked by the media to 'speak for the Muslim community'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Do you view Zafar Bangash as a fundamentalist? He's often asked by the media to 'speak for the Muslim community'. irrelevant Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 irrelevant Uhhh...it's what this thread is about. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
-TSS- Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 That's what religious people always say about any catastrophe. Quote
Merlin Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 That's what religious people always say about any catastrophe. Religious people always blame a countries foreign policy for natural disasters? I find that hard to believe. I think I would need some sort of proof on that one as I've never heard of that before. Quote
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