Shady Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Posted November 29, 2012 We have shown without a doubt that you are incorrect here. I wouldn't bother. He's incapable of independent thought. The Obama kool-aid is in full effect. Quote
Shady Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Posted November 29, 2012 WHAT TALKING POINTS WERE WRONG. You want me to accept your promise and I have refused to this whole thread because you can't tell me one. I don't accept your premise. The talking points about a protest of a video. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 WHAT TALKING POINTS WERE WRONG. You want me to accept your promise and I have refused to this whole thread because you can't tell me one. I don't accept your premise. We've already discussed that. I am not holding your hand through this. Do your own homework, I did. Quote
punked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 The talking points about a protest of a video. What about them? Seems all Intel to date suggests the protests all over the world (which were triggered by the video) were the reason the attacks choose to attack as quick as they did. You have Intel that say different? That says the attackers weren't acting on the fact that protests were going on all over the region Shady? Quote
punked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 We've already discussed that. I am not holding your hand through this. Do your own homework, I did. You really haven't. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 What about them? Seems all Intel to date suggests the protests all over the world (which were triggered by the video) were the reason the attacks choose to attack as quick as they did. You have Intel that say different? That says the attackers weren't acting on the fact that protests were going on all over the region Shady? The video was months old and could not have been the reasons for the protests. Obama and others said it was due to the video, then we found out it was not due to the video. That is ONE lie. You can see what stems from that. Quote
punked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 The video was months old and could not have been the reasons for the protests. Obama and others said it was due to the video, then we found out it was not due to the video. That is ONE lie. You can see what stems from that. You don't think the video now was the reason for the protests in Egypt? and 19 other Arab regions? Come on now you are rewriting history because it doesn't fit your narrative. Quote
Shady Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Posted November 29, 2012 You don't think the video now was the reason for the protests in Egypt? and 19 other Arab regions? Come on now you are rewriting history because it doesn't fit your narrative. LOL, what's an Arab region? Quote
punked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 LOL, what's an Arab region? USE GOOGLE SHADY WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! Grown ups are talking and sometimes we don't have time to spell everything out for the slower members. You can join in the conversation maybe when you understand it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world Quote
GostHacked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 You don't think the video now was the reason for the protests in Egypt? and 19 other Arab regions? Come on now you are rewriting history because it doesn't fit your narrative. I am not the one rewriting history. I did not make the talking points and then change them. I am simply pointing out that what the administration claimed were the reasons for the protests were patently false. If you want to think a spontaneous protest in 19 countries were due to a horribly produced video that was released more than 5 months before the protests, then you are missing something bigger here. Quote
punked Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 I am not the one rewriting history. I did not make the talking points and then change them. I am simply pointing out that what the administration claimed were the reasons for the protests were patently false. If you want to think a spontaneous protest in 19 countries were due to a horribly produced video that was released more than 5 months before the protests, then you are missing something bigger here. So where do you think those 19 spontaneous protests came from? Quote
cybercoma Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 The only dirtbags reside in the administration. The dirtbags that ignored the security requests of the ambassador, and the dirtbags that blamed the attack on a non-existent protest. It's impossible to say you're misinformed at this point. You're simply a liar. Quote
Shady Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Posted November 29, 2012 So where do you think those 19 spontaneous protests came from? Can you list all 19? Be specific. And you really think they're spontaneous? Come'on man. Quote
Shady Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Posted November 29, 2012 It's impossible to say you're misinformed at this point. You're simply a liar. No, you're either misinformed, or purposely lying. Because the fact is, there was no "protest" at the Benghazi consulate. And the ambassador asked several times for the need for more security, as the consulate had been attack a few times prior to September 11th. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 It's been extremely enjoyable watching all the sore losers continue to fight the election they already lost. How did Romney lose while doing so well among independents? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
punked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 Can you list all 19? Be specific. And you really think they're spontaneous? Come'on man. I am no longer doing your work because you are to dumb or lazy to do it. Here is a map documenting all the protests. Enjoy. I am sorry you got caught in a right wing lie Shady but this why I keep asking what talking point was a lie because I knew you guys only had the video thing and the video did cause some protests which spilled across the region. Those talking points were the best non-classifed talking points for the time. Get over it the election is over. https://maps.google....439,53.613281 I just want to point out Shady asked for a citation and I provided one. Something he has never done for me. This is the second time today. I think from now on my word should be trusted while he needs to prove his. Quote
punked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 No, you're either misinformed, or purposely lying. Because the fact is, there was no "protest" at the Benghazi consulate. And the ambassador asked several times for the need for more security, as the consulate had been attack a few times prior to September 11th. And Republicans took a much needed 300 million out of security for that region. Don't forget that fact Shady. Yep security in the region was spread pretty thin. Why? Oh yah your side it wasn't needed and WERE THE ONES WHO TOOK THE FUNDING AWAY. I see you forgot that. Yet you place no blame there GEEEE I wonder why? Quote
GostHacked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 And Republicans took a much needed 300 million out of security for that region. Don't forget that fact Shady. Yep security in the region was spread pretty thin. Why? Oh yah your side it wasn't needed and WERE THE ONES WHO TOOK THE FUNDING AWAY. I see you forgot that. Yet you place no blame there GEEEE I wonder why? I am still having a hard time wrapping my brain around any notion that people still think just the Reps or just the Dems are responsible for this. It's both that are responsible for it. We should not have helped the rebels in Libya, this whole mess could have been avoided. Quote
punked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 I am still having a hard time wrapping my brain around any notion that people still think just the Reps or just the Dems are responsible for this. It's both that are responsible for it. We should not have helped the rebels in Libya, this whole mess could have been avoided. If that is the argument well I think that is forgivable. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 If that is the argument well I think that is forgivable. One action is the result of another previous action, and on and on. One of the reasons compartmentalized thought helps those in power. If they can pigeon hole you into a certain train of thought, it is just as effective as direct mind control. They can also control the way and how you will argue when it comes to any one particular topic. Quote
Shady Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Posted November 30, 2012 And Republicans took a much needed 300 million out of security for that region. Don't forget that fact Shady. Yep security in the region was spread pretty thin. Why? Oh yah your side it wasn't needed and WERE THE ONES WHO TOOK THE FUNDING AWAY. I see you forgot that. Yet you place no blame there GEEEE I wonder why? No that's not true. Besides, we talked about this before. Redeploying military personnel to help secure a threatened embassy can be done by the president without anything to do with congress. You know that, so stop acting stupid. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 Redeploying military personnel to help secure a threatened embassy can be done by the president without anything to do with congress. And a Republican president would have done so with 20/20 hindsight. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 So, to sum up, if you blatantly lie (a la John McCain and Condoleeza Rice), knowingly and repeatedly, and these lies wind up causing a war that costs untold lives and treasure, it's no big deal to our Republican friends. But if you demonstrate some institutional disorganization by providing intelligence that has since been updated, and this misinformation has no real effect on anyone, this is a very, very big deal that deserves hearings to rival Watergate. And they wonder why they lost this election? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
punked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 No that's not true. Besides, we talked about this before. Redeploying military personnel to help secure a threatened embassy can be done by the president without anything to do with congress. You know that, so stop acting stupid. Again as the map I posted shows the whole region needed more personnel on that day. It really is to bad Republicans thought cutting a huge chunk out of the budget and making it so everyone was spread to thin in days like those was a good idea. You still haven't shown me this lie you keep talking about. All I see is someone who has no understanding of the time line of events. You can try to blame Obama for your poor understanding but no one in America is buying it. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 30, 2012 Report Posted November 30, 2012 Again as the map I posted shows the whole region needed more personnel on that day. It really is to bad Republicans thought cutting a huge chunk out of the budget and making it so everyone was spread to thin in days like those was a good idea. You still haven't shown me this lie you keep talking about. All I see is someone who has no understanding of the time line of events. You can try to blame Obama for your poor understanding but no one in America is buying it. It is you that is not following the time line of events. As you say, not doing the homework for you as we already have, several times through this thread and others. When their facts change so does the timeline of events. Quote
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