jbg Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 A pretty even debate, I don't see a clear winner. Obama did a lot better than last time. IMO if you think a certain person won it probably just reflects your personal ideological preference in their answers (i mostly preferred Obama's answers).Actually, I noticed that many liberals thought Romney won and conservatives thought Obama won. I call a tie.Candy Crowley did a phenomenal job as moderatorShe was insufferably unattractive and helped Obama out where he got into trouble. It's really funny (and sickening) watching both of these guys clearly lying or ignoring direct questions on many questions just to score points. No wonder so many politicians are lawyers. Debates are like watching 2 lawyers shoveling out the BS trying to convince a jury (voters) who don't really know who to believe. It was also sickening to watch two grown men act like children. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shady Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Even Candy Crowwley says Romney is right. Quote
jbg Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 We don't know what Harper would have wanted to do because he didn't have a majority with an election 3+ years away.When Harper lacked a majority who could know if elections were three days, or three years, away? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 obama wants to give out candy to the american people by running a deficit, while romney wants to give out candy to the military industrial complex and the rich by running a deficit. which harvard lawyer do you agree with? Congratulations. Finally a bud post that is not aimed at harming Israel. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Bonam Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Congratulations. Finally a bud post that is not aimed at harming Israel. I think he's had as many as 5 or 6 over the years. Quote
jbg Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 I think he's had as many as 5 or 6 over the years. Still deserves a hearty "yosher koah (sp)." Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 That's not actually the moderator's job. Your cluelessness knows no bounds. I'm not surprised though. You should really stick to the Canadian Federal section of the forum. Really? So she should have just let him die? She was doing the opposite of her job. She's a journalist. Her job is the truth. She was moderating. Still, the truth. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Really? So she should have just let him die? She's a journalist. Her job is the truth. She was moderating. Still, the truth. No, I have to say I think a moderator's job, especially in this situation, is to remain unbiased and ask the questions. It's not her job to help one candidate over the other. Romney missed a huge opportunity to score some points there. Probably too stunned by her overt bias. Quote
Smallc Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 No, I have to say I think a moderator's job, especially in this situation, is to remain unbiased and ask the questions. A moderator is a facilitator, and fairness monitor. This doesn't seem outside of that. It's not her job to help one candidate over the other. That's not what she was doing. Romney missed a huge opportunity to score some points there. Probably too stunned by her overt bias. Probably...or, he didn't have an answer for his lie. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 A moderator is a facilitator, and fairness monitor. This doesn't seem outside of that. That's not what she was doing. In the beginning of the debate she certainly appeared to be favoring Obama because she was giving him more time and cutting of Romney right at 2 minutes. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 In the beginning of the debate she certainly appeared to be favoring Obama because she was giving him more time and cutting of Romney right at 2 minutes. That's not how the format worked. After the initial two minutes, there was supposed to be discussion. Romney didn't seem capable of understanding that. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 I saw that part, she really did step over the line when it came to helping out Obama shen she actually tried to clarify a point about the recent terrorist attack. I don't think I've ever seen a moderator step in like that in favour of a particular candidate. Fact Checking isn't favouring a candidate. Romney said Obama didn't call it an act of terror, which was false. The media and moderators should be holding these people accountable to the truth. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 She was doing the opposite of her job. Diametrically opposed to her job. Her "unjob". Her job in the Bizarro world. She was showing her bias, which was a disgrace, really. Bias for the truth. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Another point about the debate. Apparently Michelle Obama also broke debate rules by leading particpant applause. So whether it's her breaking those rules, or Obama getting help from the moderator, or talking over his time limit (an extra 4 minutes, plus an extra 5 from the previous debate he got shellacked in, for a total of almost 10 more minutes of speaking time), they really pretty pathetic. Really grasping at straws here, bud. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Bias for the truth. Oh rubbish. Of course she was biased. It's not up to the moderator to call either one of the candidates on their comments. That's what the other candidate is for. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Really grasping at straws here, bud. I didn't know about Michelle. Do you still contend that the event was unbiased if they had the Prez's wife leading the applause? Quote
Shady Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Really? So she should have just let him die? She's a journalist. Her job is the truth. She was moderating. Still, the truth. No, as a moderator, her job is not the "truth". I'm not sure if you're just pretending to be stupid, or if it's for real. Quote
Shady Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Oh rubbish. Of course she was biased. It's not up to the moderator to call either one of the candidates on their comments. That's what the other candidate is for. Well said. Moderators are suppose to make sure the candidates are following the debate rules. It's not their job to judge the validity of a candidates answer. I'm not surprised that the Obama fanboys of the forum aren't aware of that. Quote
Smallc Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 No, as a moderator, her job is not the "truth". Yes, in fact, it is. He was clearly lying. Quote
blueblood Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Yes, in fact, it is. He was clearly lying. Yes, in fact, it is. He was clearly lying. So just because you don't agree with what he said he's lying and that's your guys major defense? Cripes Obama said he'd cut the deficit in half - he lied! Edited October 18, 2012 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Mr.Canada Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Yes, in fact, it is. He was clearly lying. No lies just the truth as seen through different eyes. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 So just because you don't agree with what he said he's lying and that's your guys major defense? No, he was lying because he was lying. Quote
blueblood Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 No, he was lying because he was lying. Care to elaborate other than "he's lying" Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
bud Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 yes, this is from fox: Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bleeding heart Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 Care to elaborate other than "he's lying" Romney said that Obama, in his Rose Garden remarks, refused to call it a terrorist act. But Obama did call it a terrorist act. Either Romney is unaware of what actually transpired, but castigated the President for it anyway...or he was lying outright. Those are the only two choices, since the demonstrable truth is available for anyone who wants to watch the recorded remarks. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
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