waldo Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 For the same reason Pierre Elliot Trudeau used his middle name; to bifurcate his heritage. Obama wants to pander to the leftists and Arabists among the population. nice try... the question wasn't asking for your skewed/misplaced interpretation; rather, the question was asking you why... you... used Obama's middle name... why... you... highlighted it, pointedly and purposely, with a html font size tag? Why did... you... do that? Quote
jbg Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 nice try... the question wasn't asking for your skewed/misplaced interpretation; rather, the question was asking you why... you... used Obama's middle name... why... you... highlighted it, pointedly and purposely, with a html font size tag? Why did... you... do that? I did that as a compliment. I assume Barack Hussein Obama takes great pride in his heritage much as Pierre Elliot Trudeau took pride, when convenient, in the Anglophone parts of his heritage. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
msj Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I did that as a compliment. I assume Barack Hussein Obama takes great pride in his heritage much as Pierre Elliot Trudeau took pride, when convenient, in the Anglophone parts of his heritage. Oh, I assumed you were late to the "Terry Jones Announces Judge Barack Hussein Obama Day" party. Did you enjoy the event? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Black Dog Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 For the same reason Pierre Elliot Trudeau used his middle name; to bifurcate his heritage. Obama wants to pander to the leftists and Arabists among the population. From his official bio at the White House website: Barack H. Obama is the 44th President of the United States. Another jbg fail. Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) For the same reason Pierre Elliot Trudeau used his middle name; to bifurcate his heritage. Obama wants to pander to the leftists and Arabists among the population. Obama never uses his middle name, other than when he's being sworn into office. But I see you still don't know how to use a semi-colon. Edited September 12, 2012 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
The_Squid Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 Obama never uses his middle name, other than when he's being sworn into office. But I see you still don't know how to use a semi-colon. I've never seen Obama use his middle name, other than swearing in. Perhaps jbg can provide us with some proof... Leftists like his middle name? That's news.... and he panders to Muslims? How's that? Quote
Black Dog Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 I've never seen Obama use his middle name, other than swearing in. Perhaps jbg can provide us with some proof... Leftists like his middle name? That's news.... and he panders to Muslims? How's that? Not Muslims: Arabists. I'm still trying to figure that one out. Quote
The_Squid Posted September 12, 2012 Report Posted September 12, 2012 Not Muslims: Arabists. I'm still trying to figure that one out. Oh. Arabists.... That makes much more sense.... Quote
jbg Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 I've never seen or heard of anyone using Obama's middle name other than the far right. I'm just curious why you do that? It's not a difficult or a trick question..... But how is my using his middle name different from PM Trudeau using his middle name? I'm totally confused. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 From his official bio at the White House website: Another jbg fail. He was sworn in (with an error in the oath no less) with his middle name, if I recall correctly. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 I'm totally confused. I agree. Particularly about the elements of basic grammar. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
msj Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) He was sworn in (with an error in the oath no less) with his middle name, if I recall correctly. Um, so did William Jefferson Clinton ( ).Dwight D. Eisenhower just used the D. ).Ronald Reagan didn't use any initial (in 1981 not sure about 1985). I note that Richard Nixon did go with Milhous (here). George Walker Bush used his middle name (here). I could go on but don't think it is necessary. The only exceptionalism going on here is not whether or not a President is sworn in with or without his middle name or middle initial. No, what is exceptional is jbg's hypocritical use Obama's middle name. Edited September 13, 2012 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
The_Squid Posted September 13, 2012 Report Posted September 13, 2012 But how is my using his middle name different from PM Trudeau using his middle name? I'm totally confused. You can't be that stupid that you would be confused about my question. The question was really simple. Why do you use Obama's middle name when you mention him? Quote
bleeding heart Posted September 17, 2012 Report Posted September 17, 2012 You can't be that stupid that you would be confused about my question. The question was really simple. Why do you use Obama's middle name when you mention him? I believe he'd prefer not to say. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
cybercoma Posted September 18, 2012 Report Posted September 18, 2012 Shady would like to see more unemployment without any social safety net, so he can blame the jobless for their misfortunes when it was managerial incompetence that created the problem. Quote
jbg Posted September 18, 2012 Report Posted September 18, 2012 Why do you use Obama's middle name when you mention him?Because that's his name. Why do you find it offensive? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
The_Squid Posted September 18, 2012 Report Posted September 18, 2012 Because that's his name. Why do you find it offensive? I don't find it offensive. Do you use Romney's middle name too? Why not? Quote
kimmy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Posted September 18, 2012 I don't find it offensive. Do you use Romney's middle name too? Why not? Everybody uses Willard's middle name. But let's ignore jbg's distraction and get back to discussing what a stupid argument Shady came up with in this thread. Although GM is posting big profits, they're running their company into the ground because they haven't made a profit on one particular model yet. And if the model in question was the Truckeroo SUV, nobody would have said much about it. But because the model in question is an electric car, and the idea of electric cars makes right-wing cranks wet their pants with rage, this is a Major Indictment of GM, the Auto Bailout, and Barack Obama. Yep. That's about how much sense it makes. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Shady Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Posted September 18, 2012 Shady would like to see more unemployment without any social safety net Complete nonsense and the typical false choice from you and your ilk. Not surprising. Quote
GostHacked Posted September 20, 2012 Report Posted September 20, 2012 I don't find it offensive. Do you use Romney's middle name too? Why not? I think using his first full name 'Mittens' is a reason to use his second name, whatever it is! Quote
GostHacked Posted September 20, 2012 Report Posted September 20, 2012 Complete nonsense and the typical false choice from you and your ilk. Not surprising. False choice is Obama OR Romney. Quote
dre Posted September 21, 2012 Report Posted September 21, 2012 you and your ilk :lol: Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Pliny Posted September 25, 2012 Report Posted September 25, 2012 Well, apparently GM is not in that great a shape but it isn't anything that cannot, with good management, be overcome. Government owns quite a few shares and if it sold them now would take a loss of about 18 billion. A good question is that as long as government owns shares equal to about 20% of the company can we say its management will be good? Government also owns about 74% of Ally as well, which is the financing arm of GM. In my view, the health of GM will always be in question as long as government has their fingers in the pie. But why should GM be so special as a corporation for government to bail out? Aren't corporations evil and greedy? The left seems to love it dearly now that it has been rescued by Obama? Maybe they realized that big corporations provide lots of jobs? And some even union jobs. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
msj Posted September 25, 2012 Report Posted September 25, 2012 Well, apparently GM is not in that great a shape but it isn't anything that cannot, with good management, be overcome. Government owns quite a few shares and if it sold them now would take a loss of about 18 billion. A good question is that as long as government owns shares equal to about 20% of the company can we say its management will be good? Government also owns about 74% of Ally as well, which is the financing arm of GM. In my view, the health of GM will always be in question as long as government has their fingers in the pie. Oh, I did not know that GM was owned by the government during the past 30 or 40 years of decline prior to them effectively going bankrupt... and prior to the government taking its ownership stake to bailout the failed publicly owned company. But, no, I'm sure all that is past and any current problems are all the governments fault. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Guest Derek L Posted September 25, 2012 Report Posted September 25, 2012 have you ever shown any critical thinking capability... ever? Even if one accepted your parroting of the Reuters article, you've applied your bluster against one single car/model to the whole of GM. Last I read, GM was once again profitable... as the world's number one automaker again. Hey did you hear: Osama Bin Laden is dead, and General Motors is alive!!! but really, critical thinker Shady... have you ever heard of start-up R&D/development costs; costs that gradually diminish over time as sales increase? The formal GM response: Like the F-35 right? Quote
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