Republican National Convention 2012 coverage

[punked]

I actually do.

The sad thing is I know you believe this as you do with all your fantasies.

[Guest Derek L]

A concise analysis of the results from the GOP convention:

Vote of alienated Democrats key to GOP

A few key points:

The “pivot” came later than many outsiders anticipated. But Mitt Romney’s speech to accept the Republican presidential nomination showed that he has finally moved beyond the GOP primaries and into a full-throttle race for the middle.

By the time Democrats get to Charlotte, N.C., for their convention next week, the rival they have depicted as an out-of-touch supply-sider may already have beaten them to the centre.

I suppose Robaney is taking a page out of the CPC playbook.........His opponents will paint him a Neo-right-wing-fascist, when in actual fact he’s dull and businesslike…….And not really scary.

Mr. Romney’s Thursday night speech was an acknowledgment that he will not make headway among these voters without speaking to their predicament. They need to be eased into changing sides.

As demonstrated by Romney’s speech that didn’t really deliver that much red meat to the base (aside the light brushing of Jesus magic and the promise to start learning those pesky Chinese/Russian commies)

What’s more, on Friday, Americans were talking more about Clint Eastwood’s unusual endorsement of Mr. Romney than the convention’s the main event.

Yet, Mr. Romney emerges from the convention with much more money than his Democratic rival and allies like Mr. Rove promising to spend hundreds of millions more to help win over those “persuadable” voters.

And the key to all elections, now that the Romney war chest, no longer constrained by election laws of a presumptive party candidate in the midst of a primary, but now the official candidate, can now unleash hundreds of millions against the DNC and Obama, money that President Obama can’t hope to match (with his legions of Jon Stewart fans)

As stated by Michael Moore:

"Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory,I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.' To assume that the other side are just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition."

[waldo]

And the key to all elections, now that the Romney war chest, no longer constrained by election laws of a presumptive party candidate in the midst of a primary, but now the official candidate, can now unleash hundreds of millions against the DNC and Obama, money that President Obama can’t hope to match (with his legions of Jon Stewart fans)

oh right... the much vaunted billionaires war chest... the Koch Brothers, Adelson, et al! The best U.S. President money can buy, hey?

since you mentioned it... did you get all warm & fuzzy when you heard Romney rattle the sabres against Putin and Iran? Do you think your favoured, as you called them, 'cranky old white males'... are game for yet another Republican war? Sure you do! Sure you do!

[August1991]

Indeed..........As I said, the “routine” is straight out of Newhart, a comedian that many baby boomers will remember with fawned memories, as many were(are) fans of Eastwood himself ………..Baby Boomers vote.

Eastwood's routine reminded rather of Jimmy Stewart and the rabbit.

[Guest Derek L]

Eastwood's routine reminded rather of Jimmy Stewart and the rabbit.

Good pick-up.........Another one I suppose could be the recent (Dark comedy) Gibson film "The Beaver".

[BubberMiley]

I actually do.

Funny. Your status report today seemed to indicate you thought Romney would win. Good to see you at least have some grounding in reality.

Jeb Bush would be a good choice for the Republican party after Romney loses. He seems like the only sane one left.

[August1991]

no - you simply won't admit the prevailing, consensus, summation on Eastwood's idiocy. You refuse to acknowledge the Romney campaign distancing itself from Eastwood... the guy who is being ridiculed royally across mainstream media, the blogosphere and social media. The very fact Eastwood has stolen the RNC/Romney 'thunder' off the convention ending... that he still remains the story... that about says it all and speaks directly to your own clued in self, hey?

Romney did not do the routine - it was Eastwood. And most of the criticsm/confusion seems to be coming from people who have drunk Obama's koolaid.

Eastwood succeeded in doing something funny, original and breaking through the usual scripted PR routine of a convention.

He turned the tables on the "sophisticated progressives". As Oscar Wilde might say, Obama is just too earnest.

[Shady]

Funny. Your status report today seemed to indicate you thought Romney would win. Good to see you at least have some grounding in reality.

I think he has a great chance of winning. But if he doesn't, then I agree.

Jeb Bush would be a good choice for the Republican party after Romney loses. He seems like the only sane one left.

There are plenty of "sane" Republicans. That's why he's endorsed Mitt Romney.

[Shady]

Romney did not do the routine - it was Eastwood. And most of the criticsm/confusion seems to be coming from people who have drunk Obama's koolaid.

Eastwood succeeded in doing something funny, original and breaking through the usual scripted PR routine of a convention.

He turned the tables on the "sophisticated progressives". As Oscar Wilde might say, Obama is just too earnest.

That's what I liked about it, unscripted, and real, unlike what most of the conventions are always about.

[Guest Derek L]

oh right... the much vaunted billionaires war chest... the Koch Brothers, Adelson, et al! The best U.S. President money can buy, hey?

since you mentioned it... did you get all warm & fuzzy when you heard Romney rattle the sabres against Putin and Iran? Do you think your favoured, as you called them, 'cranky old white males'... are game for yet another Republican war? Sure you do! Sure you do!

Didn't you get the memo:

Regardless of the outcome of this year, the emergence of the Bamboo Curtain won’t be negated and will ensure the profitability & viability of Defence stocks for years to come, spanning numerous election cycles

[punked]

Romney did not do the routine - it was Eastwood. And most of the criticsm/confusion seems to be coming from people who have drunk Obama's koolaid.

Eastwood succeeded in doing something funny, original and breaking through the usual scripted PR routine of a convention.

He turned the tables on the "sophisticated progressives". As Oscar Wilde might say, Obama is just too earnest.

Yes yes the most tweeted and retweeted tweet of the whole republican convention was Obama's response to Eastwood. It was such a great success for Obama that his one response over shadowed all the convention in social media. Great job guys.

Obama could be doing now what Reagan did 30 years ago. He could be winning a majority of those under 35 for the rest of their lived for the Dems and that is a real big problem for the Republicans. I don't know why they are selling their soles forever right now for a slim, a very slim shot at the presidency.

From the time the convention started until now Obama has gone from 68% chance of re-winning the presidency to a 73% chance on fivethrityeight. That is such great news for John McCain. Are republicans brining that one back from 2008 to? I seem to remember it started right after the convention in that year to.

[August1991]

Yes yes the most tweeted and retweeted tweet of the whole republican convention was Obama's response to Eastwood. It was such a great success for Obama that his one response over shadowed all the convention in social media. Great job guys.

Obama could be doing now what Reagan did 30 years ago. He could be winning a majority of those under 35 for the rest of their lived for the Dems and that is a real big problem for the Republicans. I don't know why they are selling their soles forever right now for a slim, a very slim shot at the presidency.

From the time the convention started until now Obama has gone from 68% chance of re-winning the presidency to a 73% chance on fivethrityeight. That is such great news for John McCain. Are republicans brining that one back from 2008 to? I seem to remember it started right after the convention in that year to.

Romney's chance at winning has always been a long shot. I think people understand that Obama became president at a difficult time. Under the circumstances, he has not done badly. The question is whether he could have done better.

I was impressed with Romney's speech: he really thinks that he can win and he knows to do that, he has to shift about 1 voter in 40 from the undecided column to the Republican side. Most of these potential undecided voters are women, and most of them voted for Obama in 2008.

Romney's speech, and Eastwood's schtick, were aimed squarely at this relatively small undecided voter pool.

[punked]

Romney's chance at winning has always been a long shot. I think people understand that Obama became president at a difficult time. Under the circumstances, he has not done badly. The question is whether he could have done better.

I was impressed with Romney's speech: he really thinks that he can win and he knows to do that, he has to shift about 1 voter in 40 from the undecided column to the Republican side. Most of these potential undecided voters are women, and most of them voted for Obama in 2008.

Romney's speech, and Eastwood's schtick, were aimed squarely at this relatively small undecided voter pool.

Whatever you want to think. Considering according to Shady no one outside of Florida watched the speech I am not sure how this helps. The undecided only saw the media reports on the speech and they weren't good. They might have seen Obamas tweet which was also not good.

[sharkman]

Romney's chance at winning has always been a long shot. I think people understand that Obama became president at a difficult time. Under the circumstances, he has not done badly. The question is whether he could have done better.

I was impressed with Romney's speech: he really thinks that he can win and he knows to do that, he has to shift about 1 voter in 40 from the undecided column to the Republican side. Most of these potential undecided voters are women, and most of them voted for Obama in 2008.

Romney's speech, and Eastwood's schtick, were aimed squarely at this relatively small undecided voter pool.

Yeah it was a great speech, and this election will depend on the middle undecided voters. It's a long way to Novemeber, however, and much will happen between now and then.

[cybercoma]

The question is whether he could have done better.

The question is not just whether Obama could have done better. The question is also whether Romney could have done better than Obama.

Romney wants to make it more difficult for middle-class families to keep their money, so he can alleviate the upper class's tax burden. Even a cursory understanding of economics reveals that this would be debilitating to the recovery. Add that to the games that the GOP has played with the debt ceiling and other legislation over Obama's term and it becomes readily evident that the Republicans have been detrimental when it comes to handling the recovery.

Maybe Obama could have done a better job, but one thing is certain.. the Republicans couldn't do better than Obama and in fact did much to tie Obama's hands together during his term. They ought to be punished at the polls for not governing in good faith, but that's unlikely to happen.

[waldo]

Romney did not do the routine - it was Eastwood. And most of the criticsm/confusion seems to be coming from people who have drunk Obama's koolaid.

Eastwood succeeded in doing something funny, original and breaking through the usual scripted PR routine of a convention.

He turned the tables on the "sophisticated progressives". As Oscar Wilde might say, Obama is just too earnest.

you don't know what you're talking about. Like I said earlier, the media couldn't find anyone within the Romney campaign who would take accountability for Eastwood's cluster****... Queen Romney was said to be most distressed over it. The RNC has seen fit to not include Eastwood within it's convention summary video - reason? There are quite literally dozens of right-wing/conservatives who say the campaign lost continuity... and respect... by inserting Eastwood's idiocy into the convention flow, particularly so close to Romney's closing. By the way, what flavour is your koolaid?

Eastwood original? Huh... we have all you wizards telling us it was a take-off of some guy named Newhart... or some rabbit and a long dead Hollywood geezer... or some other clown actor talking to a beaver! Eastwood original???

[Smallc]

You obviously didn't see what he said.

I watched it. I'm saying that when you say even Bill Maher, it shows that you don't understand him.

[WWWTT]

What does having a parliament have anything to do with it? Parliament governments must keep the confidence of the legislature, and the executive (PM) in a parliamentary system comes from the parliamentary legislature itself. Therefore the stakes are much higher in a parliament legistlature than from a legislature in a presidential system of government where the legislature and executive are not fused. Therefore, I would it think that more than 2 parties would be easier to maintain in a presidential system than a parliamentary system.

Then why do so many parliaments have more than two parties represented?

WWWTT

[JerrySeinfeld]

The question is not just whether Obama could have done better. The question is also whether Romney could have done better than Obama.

Romney wants to make it more difficult for middle-class families to keep their money, so he can alleviate the upper class's tax burden. Even a cursory understanding of economics reveals that this would be debilitating to the recovery. Add that to the games that the GOP has played with the debt ceiling and other legislation over Obama's term and it becomes readily evident that the Republicans have been detrimental when it comes to handling the recovery.

Maybe Obama could have done a better job, but one thing is certain.. the Republicans couldn't do better than Obama and in fact did much to tie Obama's hands together during his term. They ought to be punished at the polls for not governing in good faith, but that's unlikely to happen.

Romney advocates a 20% across the board income tax cut and a reduction in business taxes. This is good for business and hence good for unemployment.

All your other bullshit about Romney being a robber baron stealing from the poor to give to the rich is pure Obama boilerplate, so give it up.

[punked]

Ppp came out with a post convention Florida poll. It shows despite Shady claiming everyone and there Mom watched the convention Romney got no bounce from their last poll before the convention. That is not good.

[turantcart]

True. Although the Tea Party win of the house Republicans is still a small minority.

They showed Rice a few times but I don't know if she is speaking. I think I'd be surprised if she did. And i would think that if she was going to speak it would have been tonight.

[Shady]

Uh oh.

Another failed promise. How does anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth after everything he said back in '08?

[cybercoma]

The convention gave Romney a bump..... 2 points.

Yeah. That's bad.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157256/gop-convention-romney-speech-evoke-lukewarm-reactions.aspx

[punked]

Uh oh.

Another failed promise. How does anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth after everything he said back in '08?

I know you want Obama to time travel but he can't. Bush's failed policies lead to a bad bad time for the auto industry and some hard decisions were made but let make this clear THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE BY THE AUTO COMPANIES. The government doesn't decide who stays open and who closes. That just the type of crony capitalism you keep fighting for but Obama is trying to do something different it is called good government. Of course you would be against that and for crony capitalism. Good thing you can't vote for Romney and his crony capitalism.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I know you want Obama to time travel but he can't. Bush's failed policies lead to a bad bad time for the auto industry and some hard decisions were made but let make this clear THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE BY THE AUTO COMPANIES. The government doesn't decide who stays open and who closes. That just the type of crony capitalism you keep fighting for but Obama is trying to do something different it is called good government. Of course you would be against that and for crony capitalism. Good thing you can't vote for Romney and his crony capitalism.

Exactly how did Bush policy hurt the Auto industry?

The auto industry has been years suffering because unions force them to pay $100k a year to some high school dropout just to snap a bumper into place when someone in China will do it for $7k.