You may hate Rob Ford . . .

[Guest American Woman]

Busy at the old strawman factory today, I see.

One strawman post deserves another, I always say; so give and ye shall receive.

[Black Dog]

One strawman post deserves another, I always say; so give and ye shall receive.

Which strawman post?

This one?

This one?

This one?

[Black Dog]

Anyway, one more try here to get this back on topic before AW tries to drag it down with more of her masturbatory self-aggrandizement...

Rob Ford pleads incompetence.

Oh, my. What an astonishing display Toronto’s mayor has put on these last few days. The mayor of Canada’s largest city has been left with no defence other than ignorance, apathy and ineptitude. And that’s his version of events.

...

Under intense questioning about his novel interpretation of what a conflict of interest is, Ford was then forced to make a series of admissions that are far more alarming. He claimed to not know what a conflict of interest was defined as. He said he never looked at the handbook that all Toronto city councillors are given when they take office. He says he skipped orientation day when he was first elected since, as the son of an Ontario MPP, he knew how government worked.

First of all — no, apparently he didn’t know how government worked. Even if he himself had been a former MPP, he’d still need to familiarize himself with the differences in how the Toronto government operates — Toronto City Council isn’t a mirror image of the Ontario legislature. And it’s even more asinine to suggest that his father’s experience at one level of government taught Ford all he knew to function in another.

Before he took the stand, even I sympathized with the idea that he shouldn't lose his job over what's really a small matter, but in light of his bizarre, shambolic defense, I hope that's exactly what happens. Ford's political career needs to be euthanized now for the greater good. No one this stupid should be allowed to hold high office.

[jacee]

Are we ready to get back to the thread topic?

Rob Ford and 'conflict of interest' ... aka 'influence peddling'.

Ford’s opinion of what a conflict of interest should be doesn’t matter given what a conflict of interest is.

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In short, when on the stand, Toronto’s mayor has pleaded incompetence.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/09/06/matt-gurney-rob-ford-pleads-incompetence

I think that says it all.

It remains to be seen what the judge will do. My guess is it'll be deemed an error in judgement.

However the judge may want Ford to admit that before letting him go.

[Black Dog]

Are we ready to get back to the thread topic?

Rob Ford and 'conflict of interest' ... aka 'influence peddling'.

Ford’s opinion of what a conflict of interest should be doesn’t matter given what a conflict of interest is.

...

In short, when on the stand, Toronto’s mayor has pleaded incompetence.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/09/06/matt-gurney-rob-ford-pleads-incompetence

I think that says it all.

It remains to be seen what the judge will do. My guess is it'll be deemed an error in judgement.

However the judge may want Ford to admit that before letting him go.

Beat you by 4 minutes, buddy.

[cybercoma]

Way to ignore my earlier response. But I guess you can't resist a good drive-by at a strawman of your own making.

Based on all of this, we can assume you would tell girls not to dress too slutty (lest they give the wrong impression about their sexual availability) or too conservatively (lest they give the impression they are submissive and thus easy marks). Nor should they drink or be around people, especially men, who are drinking. Don't express too much interest in a man, lest he take it too far and rape you, but don't be too coy either because if you mix signals, he might rape you. If on a date, don't let them pay for your date, don't let them drive. In fact it's probably best of young women continue to be brought up in a climate of absolute fear for their own safety.

That's quite the mindset.

No you're not being pedantic here, but your other default mode: dense.

Madonna-Whore Complex

No. It has nothing to do with the pop star.

The view of women as either Madonnas or whores limits women's sexual expression, offering two mutually exclusive ways to construct a sexual identity.[4] The duality implies that women must assume subservient roles, either as madonnas to be protected or as whores to be punished by men.[5]

Edited September 6, 2012 by cybercoma

[Boges]

Anyway, one more try here to get this back on topic before AW tries to drag it down with more of her masturbatory self-aggrandizement...

Rob Ford pleads incompetence.

Before he took the stand, even I sympathized with the idea that he shouldn't lose his job over what's really a small matter, but in light of his bizarre, shambolic defense, I hope that's exactly what happens. Ford's political career needs to be euthanized now for the greater good. No one this stupid should be allowed to hold high office.

True but he's done many of the things he was elected to do. I think that's what matters most to the people that did vote for him.

[Guest American Woman]

Anyway, one more try here to get this back on topic before AW tries to drag it down with more of her masturbatory self-aggrandizement...

Got yourself some Word of the Day Toilet Paper, eh? With all the bulls**t coming out of you, you should build up quite a vocabulary in no time.

[Black Dog]

Got yourself some Word of the Day Toilet Paper, eh? With all the bulls**t coming out of you, you should build up quite a vocabulary in no time.

Can't let it go, eh? Always need the last word, right? Well, here's mine: die.

[WWWTT]

True but he's done many of the things he was elected to do. I think that's what matters most to the people that did vote for him.

Possibly.

If he is found guilty and dismissed,he is free to run for re-election.

If what you say is true then the good voters of Toronto will put him back in office.

If not then he's gone.

WWWTT

[Black Dog]

Possibly.

If he is found guilty and dismissed,he is free to run for re-election.

If what you say is true then the good voters of Toronto will put him back in office.

If not then he's gone.

WWWTT

It's possible he could be banned from politics for 7 years.

Unlikely, but possible.

[Guest American Woman]

Can't let it go, eh? Always need the last word, right? Well, here's mine: die.

And here's mine. Two words, actually. Anger management.

[jacee]

Beat you by 4 minutes, buddy.

No one this stupid should be allowed to hold high office.

Except for comic relief.

What's so hard about integrity, Rob?

He laudably refused to use taxpayers’ money to pay for his office supplies. ... And when he used said stationery to solicit funds for his football foundation, and was told this was inappropriate, he balked, arguing it was his money that paid for the stationery so he could use it as he pleased.

[Rue]

They got Capone for tax evasion.

I don't care about the knob polishing, but the lying about it was kind of a big deal. In this case, all Ford had to do was pay back the money.

He never lied. You are full of it. More to the point he never personally benefitted unlike Kyel Rae who you have no problems stuffing his fat face on the way out with $12,000 in tax payers money. Once again you are selective with your morality.

How did he lie? Go on tell everyone Mr. Morality Police. He was as blatant as it could get about where the money was going.

The whole reason this is an issue is because people like you can't stand the fact he was politically elected so you have to manufacture some bullshit reframing of the conflict of interest law. Now it does not apply to personal interests.

Go on Moral Czar of all that is proper, show how his helping people who could not otherwise afford it to play football is a personal benefit that got him elected.

Shut the door on the way out you two faced double standarded moral purveyor of what is acceptable in life.

Say now when you were stuffing your face at Kyle Rae's benefit did your extra calorie intake ever set of just a twinge of

guilt? Next time you two faced sob's have a party do it with your own money. See that is the difference. Ford didn't spend taxpayer's money something you just don't get with your selective outrage saved only for those you disagree with.

Run along honey buns.

[Rue]

Before he took the stand, even I sympathized with the idea that he shouldn't lose his job over what's really a small matter, but in light of his bizarre, shambolic defense, I hope that's exactly what happens. Ford's political career needs to be euthanized now for the greater good. No one this stupid should be allowed to hold high office.

There you have it stated in Oscar Wilde poetic verse:

"bizarre shambolic defense".

Here let me try some Chuck Dickens on you:

"your personal subjective selective opinions as to who you want to spit on mean jack sheeyit. You might also want to stop standing in the wind when you spit. You look all wet."

[guyser]

More to the point he never personally benefitted unlike Kyel Rae who you have no problems stuffing his fat face on the way out with $12,000 in tax payers money. Once again you are selective with your morality.

Was Kyle Rae cited for comflict of interest?

And this next prose is right out of Doug Fords "Lets make up an excuse " or "At least muddy the waters" handbook.

Kinda pathetic....Dougs an idiot if people believe this pile of crap...

The whole reason this is an issue is because people like you can't stand the fact he was politically elected so you have to manufacture some bullshit reframing of the conflict of interest law. Now it does not apply to personal interests.

Manufacture? Nice try, but frankly anyone who believes it was manufactured well....never mind.

Go on Moral Czar of all that is proper, show how his helping people who could not otherwise afford it to play football is a personal benefit that got him elected.

Irrelevant...but a good attempt (not really) at deflection.

Shut the door on the way out you two faced double standarded moral purveyor of what is acceptable in life.

Best save that for Rob,

Say now when you were stuffing your face at Kyle Rae's benefit did your extra calorie intake ever set of just a twinge of

guilt? Next time you two faced sob's have a party do it with your own money. See that is the difference. Ford didn't spend taxpayer's money something you just don't get with your selective outrage saved only for those you disagree with.

Run along honey buns.

Hey honey buns

With a post like this, you best read the whys and hows of why the stupid mayor is stupid and in this hot seat.

When you get a clue, come on back and give us another one of your rants about nothing to do with the actual case.

[Rue]

Was Kyle Rae cited for comflict of interest?

Sweety that was the point. Oh go on now. Try read it again.

Jethro: Was Kyle Rae cited for conflict of interest?

Jed: One of these days I have to have a long talk with that boy.

[guyser]

Sweety that was the point. Oh go on now. Try read it again.

Jethro: Was Kyle Rae cited for conflict of interest?

Jed: One of these days I have to have a long talk with that boy.

Lord these attempts at excuses are lame!

Kyle Rae charged it to his office budget, not in violation of anything.

Not to mention of course that council voted down that he should return the money.

Nice try, strike two.

Oh and grow up, your petulant postings while amusing are never about the truth.

K sweetie?

Edited September 7, 2012 by guyser

[Black Dog]

He never lied. You are full of it.

I was talking about Clinton. Take a breath, pop a Xanax, and try to keep up.

More to the point he never personally benefitted unlike Kyel Rae who you have no problems stuffing his fat face on the way out with $12,000 in tax payers money. Once again you are selective with your morality.

Never benefited personally? He got out of paying $3,000 out of his own pocket. that's a personal benefit.

How did he lie? Go on tell everyone Mr. Morality Police. He was as blatant as it could get about where the money was going.

Yeah and that's not the issue. Do try and keep up.

The whole reason this is an issue is because people like you can't stand the fact he was politically elected so you have to manufacture some bullshit reframing of the conflict of interest law. Now it does not apply to personal interests.

We'll see what the judge has to say on that score.

Go on Moral Czar of all that is proper, show how his helping people who could not otherwise afford it to play football is a personal benefit that got him elected.

I guess that, like Ford, you don't really understand what conflict of interest means.

Shut the door on the way out you two faced double standarded moral purveyor of what is acceptable in life.

Say now when you were stuffing your face at Kyle Rae's benefit did your extra calorie intake ever set of just a twinge of

guilt? Next time you two faced sob's have a party do it with your own money. See that is the difference. Ford didn't spend taxpayer's money something you just don't get with your selective outrage saved only for those you disagree with.

Rabble rabble rabble.

Run along honey buns.

Get help.

[Guest American Woman]

So anyone here going to Ford's backyard BBQ tonight?

[Rue]

So anyone here going to Ford's backyard BBQ tonight?

Yah I am taking Black dog. I hear they are serving wieners.

[Rue]

Kyle Rae charged it to his office budget, not in violation of anything.

Not to mention of course that council voted down that he should return the money.

K sweetie?

You again missed the point. Here let me paraphrase you with your own words:

"Lord these attempts at excuses are lame!"

Now if that is too difficult for you to still understand how about I spell it out again:

USING THE CRITERIA CLAYTON RUBY IS NOW USING AND WAS NOT USED ON KYLE RAE,

HE WOULD NOW ALSO BE LIABLE FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I put it in bold letters. Maybe it will be easier to read. You might want to mouth the words

slowly.

[jacee]

So anyone here going to Ford's backyard BBQ tonight?

No thanks. I hear he's handing out donation forms on city letterhead and you can't leave till you pay up. Of course there's a lucrative city contract in it for you, but paying bribes just isn't my thing.

[guyser]

. I hear they are serving wieners.

They probably are, what with being low brow and mentally deficient (I didnt read the rules...I still think I am right) and all.

Enjoy the company.

Maybe you can report back all the new excuses you Doug and His Lordship come up with. Cuz the ones you have now are....well....a 5 yr old could see through 'em.

[Black Dog]

You again missed the point. Here let me paraphrase you with your own words:

"Lord these attempts at excuses are lame!"

Now if that is too difficult for you to still understand how about I spell it out again:

USING THE CRITERIA CLAYTON RUBY IS NOW USING AND WAS NOT USED ON KYLE RAE,

HE WOULD NOW ALSO BE LIABLE FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I put it in bold letters. Maybe it will be easier to read. You might want to mouth the words

slowly.

Obviously not the case. And if it were, he could always just use Ford's definition of conflict of interest.