Keepitsimple Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/denounce-harper-twitter-trending-on-canada-day-1.861629#ixzz1zT7aL6g3 Then of course there's the http://www.yourruler.com/ online thing where Harper is the most hated leader out of 194 countries in the world He's even got Putin beat by 3-1 on being the most vile hated leader... In general, those on the Left tend to be very nasty angry people when things do not go their way. There is fair commentary and criticism - and even sarcasm and caricaturing.....but the sheer hatred and anger that comes from some on the Left is, to use their words "troubling, chilling, frightening, horrifying, terrifying". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Are the personal attacks and character assassinations really necessary? Comments like, "those on [insert side of the spectrum] are [insert character] people," do nothing for the discussion around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Are the personal attacks and character assassinations really necessary? Comments like, "those on [insert side of the spectrum] are [insert character] people," do nothing for the discussion around here. The whole left right thing is nothing but a nice label that can be put on someone so they can be categorized and put into a marginalization box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 The whole left right thing is nothing but a nice label that can be put on someone so they can be categorized and put into a marginalization box. It always says more about the poster than it says anything about who they're discussing---that is, they have subscribed wholeheartedly to the cookie-cutter moulds that have been neatly laid out for them by the corporate media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Perhaps the Tory supporters will one day wake up and realize that the Harper party, isn't the party they thought it was, just like when the liberals supporters voted out the liberals. So, voters went to Harper, as a minority government, which it should have stayed as one for all the reasons we all know about today. The party is only as good as the leader but when you have a leader like the views of Harper, which are more harmful for Canadians than good, then Canadians will turn on the leader, as some are doing now. I've watched and listened to him since he came into the PMO and I don't like what he is doing to this country and the worse is we don't know of how many secrets he is keeping from Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Perhaps the Tory supporters will one day wake up and realize that the Harper party, isn't the party they thought it was, just like when the liberals supporters voted out the liberals. So, voters went to Harper, as a minority government, which it should have stayed as one for all the reasons we all know about today. The party is only as good as the leader but when you have a leader like the views of Harper, which are more harmful for Canadians than good, then Canadians will turn on the leader, as some are doing now. I've watched and listened to him since he came into the PMO and I don't like what he is doing to this country and the worse is we don't know of how many secrets he is keeping from Canadians. What don't you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 North Koreans love their Dear Leader. Nobody in a country run by a dictator hates their leader. Those that do tend to go missing. you call that love? I call it fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 People pay taxes whether they own property or not. Income taxes, sales taxes, you name it. Even most property owners pay a lot more in other taxes than they do on their property. The idea of taxing citizens while denying them representation goes against what democracy is supposed to stand for. Every citizen represents a cost to government. It has to pay for roads, sewage, border services and airports, water, police, fire, health care and a number of other social services. In addition, a share of services you don't get directly should be paid by you: things like defense and foreign affairs diplomats, parks, etc. The majority of Canadians are on the negative side, as far as contributions to the government, because even if they pay 'some' taxes, they don't pay enough to pay their 'bill'. Ie, they cost the government more than the government gets out of them. If you're not paying property taxes as well as income taxes, odds are pretty strong you're a liability, not an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 The majority of Canadians are on the negative side, as far as contributions to the government Exactly. They pay some sales taxes during the course of the year, but then receive that money back in the form of various tax credits such as guaranteed income supplements, or GST refunds, etc. They don't actually contribute a net gain to the treasury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 you call that love? I call it fear Sorry. I didn't put write "love" in quotations. I thought they would be understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Every citizen represents a cost to government. It has to pay for roads, sewage, border services and airports, water, police, fire, health care and a number of other social services. In addition, a share of services you don't get directly should be paid by you: things like defense and foreign affairs diplomats, parks, etc. The majority of Canadians are on the negative side, as far as contributions to the government, because even if they pay 'some' taxes, they don't pay enough to pay their 'bill'. Ie, they cost the government more than the government gets out of them. If you're not paying property taxes as well as income taxes, odds are pretty strong you're a liability, not an asset. Nonsense, just because someone can't afford a home doesn't mean they are on the negative side, particularly in places like Vancouver. Besides, property taxes are municipal, not Federal or Provincial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yeh Harper!!! Yeh OUR government! Yeh CANADA! In that order, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 May is a shrill wack job, and I highly doubt Coyne is twittering about denouncing Harper. Maybe not, but he did call the PM an authoritarian liar. Correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Actually, I think that would be a fairly good idea. You're an elitist, and an anti-democrat. Shady, I sincerely did not know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 In that order, eh? Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 May is a shrill wack job, and I highly doubt Coyne is twittering about denouncing Harper. I don't for a minute support many of the GPC's policies, but Elizabeth May is the most effective federal leader we have had in years. With a single seat, she has brought more attention to the issues that are important to her party than any of the other parties combined. She's also by far the most informative MP on the Hill, communicating through email and Twitter to her base constantly. I have nothing but respect for Elizabeth May and I find it baffling that people would continue to demean her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraychik Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I don't for a minute support many of the GPC's policies, but Elizabeth May is the most effective federal leader we have had in years. With a single seat, she has brought more attention to the issues that are important to her party than any of the other parties combined. She's also by far the most informative MP on the Hill, communicating through email and Twitter to her base constantly. I have nothing but respect for Elizabeth May and I find it baffling that people would continue to demean her. Elizabeth May is a socialist politician that panders to the worst elements of human nature: jealousy and resentment. She employs the most despicable rhetoric playing the class-warfare card, the phony "environmentalist" card, and the "anti-war" (appeasement of enemies) card. She should be condemned and demeaned at every possible opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Elizabeth May is a socialist politician that panders to the worst elements of human nature: jealousy and resentment. She employs the most despicable rhetoric playing the class-warfare card, the phony "environmentalist" card, and the "anti-war" (appeasement of enemies) card. She should be condemned and demeaned at every possible opportunity. The Green Party isn't even remotely socialist. You should probably read their platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Maybe not, but he did call the PM an authoritarian liar. Correctly. Harper is no more a liar than any other prime minister we've had, and less so than many. He's certainly less of a liar than the several prime ministers before him. Not that that's a very high bar to surpass, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I don't for a minute support many of the GPC's policies, but Elizabeth May is the most effective federal leader we have had in years. With a single seat, she has brought more attention to the issues that are important to her party than any of the other parties combined. You might think so. I haven't seen her since the election. Maybe you're paying more attention to the subjects she's bleating about than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 You might think so. I haven't seen her since the election. Maybe you're paying more attention to the subjects she's bleating about than I am. Maybe you're just not paying attention. And comparing her activism with the sounds of a farm animal is derogatory and offensive. Grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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