DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 No way to know that unless it were to occur. Unlike actually-existing knighthoods, which are objectively real, and objectively silly. The Magic Christian teaches us all we need to know about greed. Well, there is no communism, no capitalism, no democracy, no free markets, no anarchism. These are all useful shorthands, and never perfect ones. Tell that to an Anarchist. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 The Magic Christian teaches us all we need to know about greed. Arguably, all people are greedy (if not for cash, then for Power); but not all people are always greedy. Tell that to an Anarchist. Anarchism is a serious and sophisticated strain of political thoguht, arising along with Capitalism out of the Enlightenment. Those who take violently to the streets under the self-label "anarchist," and call, for example, Occupy the "Enemy," are no more "anarchists" than tax-funded agribusiness (or what have you: pick your rich-socialist poison) is "free market." Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Arguably, all people are greedy (if not for cash, then for Power); but not all people are always greedy. I'm self-employed and debt free. I'm more along the lines of Peter Schiff's thinking than anything else. Government should stay out of the market other than to provide the stable grounds for economic growth. Protect the citizens...protect the state. Keep out of my wallet. Anarchism is all fun and games until the fellows with the guns ruin your party. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Government should stay out of the market You want to gut the health care system and the military? Anarchism is all fun and games until the fellows with the guns ruin your party. It's the same with capitalism, except that the fellows with guns are the authorities, protecting your "betters" from you. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 The hospital isn't the market place. Nor is the military. Re: Arachism. It would last about 2 seconds before MS-13 etc made these clowns their bitches, Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 The hospital isn't the market place. Nor is the military. Without the goods and services bought in the marketplace by the government, neither entity exists. At all. By definition. Re: Arachism. It would last about 2 seconds before MS-13 etc made these clowns their bitches, They kill spiders? Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Without the goods and services bought in the marketplace by the government, neither entity exists. At all. By definition. They kill spiders? lol...ooops. Re: Government. The government doesn't need to do that function in society. Doesn't need to buy my groceries, either. Edited June 4, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 lol...ooops. Re: Government. The government doesn't need to do that function in society. Doesn't need to buy my groceries, either. Nor mine. But health care and the military, the police, physical infrastructure...I support all these tax-based, government-in-the-market, socialist initiatives. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Nor mine. But health care and the military, the police, physical infrastructure...I support all these tax-based, government-in-the-market, socialist initiatives. I also said: Protect the citizens...protect the state. But the politicians need not...should not...run the army. That's for soldiers. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bleeding heart Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 I also said: Protect the citizens...protect the state. But the politicians need not...should not...run the army. That's for soldiers. First, though, we're talking about government in the marketplace....without which there is no military. Flat out. As to your point: yes, military people need to run military matters; but at the end of the day, they have to be answerable to a civilian leadership. That's by design, in all the great democracies. It helps avoid the risk of a military dictatorship. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 First, though, we're talking about government in the marketplace....without which there is no military. Flat out. As to your point: yes, military people need to run military matters; but at the end of the day, they have to be answerable to a civilian leadership. That's by design, in all the great democracies. It helps avoid the risk of a military dictatorship. Soldiers need not...should not...run the Government. See: MacArthur. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 You are truly amazing, Topaz. Instead of being proud of Harper if he receives such an honour from our Queen (NOT from Britain! From our Queen! There IS a difference!) you instead have to let your own prejudices dominate your POV. I suspect you think only Liberals should ever be honoured with anything... What exactly is the difference when both Queens are THE SAME PERSON!??!? I am with Rick on this one .... If by being knighted it means..having that sceptre/sword brought down repeatedly upon his head....I'd be fine with that. The sooner we stop believing in and wasting taxpayers money on that monarchy bullshit, the better off this country will be Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Who cares about laden meanings, that's what they were. Read Elizabeth Hanson's report or rent Black Robe. What kind of person uses a term then says "who cares about laden meanings" ? If you don't care about the meanings of words, then I suggest you pizza disco your poodle rocket. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 More self-hate. Cybercoma, the North American Left hurts itself when it denigrates western culture and life. This from the guy who happily and unapologetically drops the term 'savages'... Sheesh... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Wilber Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 What exactly is the difference when both Queens are THE SAME PERSON!??!? I am with Rick on this one .... The honours list is compiled by the government, not the Queen. Our government can stipulate that she not award knighthoods as Queen of Canada and it will not recognize those made to Canadians by the Queen of England. What she does as Queen of England is between her and the British Parliament. Not recognizing a honour is not the same as forbidding a person from accepting one. That is childish behaviour on our part IMO. Why Harper would be awarded a knighthood for services to the UK is beyond me. Not possible to take it seriously. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
g_bambino Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 You are truly amazing, Topaz. Instead of being proud of Harper if he receives such an honour from our Queen (NOT from Britain! From our Queen! There IS a difference!) For Harper to receive a knighthood from the Queen, without input from the British government, it would have to be either by the Queen appointing him a Knight Grand Cross or a Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, or by advising the Queen himself to grant him a knighthood. Neither is very likely at all. Quote
g_bambino Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 The honours list is compiled by the government, not the Queen. Our government can stipulate that she not award knighthoods as Queen of Canada and it will not recognize those made to Canadians by the Queen of England. What she does as Queen of England is between her and the British Parliament. There are three honours the Queen bestowes without the advice of any government: appointment into the Order of Merit, the Order of the Companions of Honour, and the Royal Victorian Order. Two (the Order of Merit and Royal Victorian Order) are definitely within the Canadian honours system; the other is not certanly within it (it's not listed in the Order-in-Council setting precedence for Canadian honours), but there are Canadians in the order. The Royal Victorian Order is therefore the only one within the Canadian honours system that could give an appointee the title "Sir" or "Dame". However, though she doesn't have to, the Queen has chosen to never appoint a Canadian to any grade of the order above Commander, since that grade and lower have no associated titles. Why Harper would be awarded a knighthood for services to the UK is beyond me. Not possible to take it seriously. That's undeniable. Quote
WWWTT Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 WWWTT, I am tired of westerners who denigrate their own history. Galileo, Newton and Einstein (to name three) changed the world. Yep those three sure did change the world.After Mayan mathematics was discovered and was used by them! But keep thanking the white people and ignoring the accomplishments of non white/non Europens so that everyone can see you for what you are! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 I'm sorry but Mayans never bothered to colonize the world with their knowledge. And if they had, we would now in 2012 still be building pyramids, and sacrificing virgins from them. You forgot to thank polio and the Spanish conquistadors relentless slaughters in their pursuit for gold! Do you sincerely believe the Europeans went out to discover the world to quench their curiosity for knowledge and the betterment of the human species???? Good luck! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 There are no millionaire Communists. Unless you count the country that has the second largest number of billionaires next to the US. COMMUNIST CHINA! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Argus Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Yep those three sure did change the world.After Mayan mathematics was discovered and was used by them! There were a lot of discoveries in other nations. But the Europeans were the only ones who used them, adapted them, built on them, and managed to launch themselves into the industrial age because of them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WWWTT Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 There were a lot of discoveries in other nations. But the Europeans were the only ones who used them, adapted them, built on them, and managed to launch themselves into the industrial age because of them. That is spun twisted so freekin far to justify your version of history your neck must be sore! Good luck buddy! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 Unless you count the country that has the second largest number of billionaires next to the US. COMMUNIST CHINA! WWWTT There are NO millionaire Communists. Happy Tiananmen Square Crackdown, btw. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 That is spun twisted so freekin far to justify your version of history your neck must be sore! Good luck buddy! WWWTT What version do you use? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted June 4, 2012 Report Posted June 4, 2012 If you don't care about the meanings of words, then I suggest you pizza disco your poodle rocket.This is going into my signature. Thanks for the laugh. Quote
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