Guest Peeves Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Like moves that got Bell out a monopoly control, , or, the used to was, the control of movie theatres that were owned by film companies, get the Oil Companies out of the gas station ownership. Make all gas stations independent of ANY oil company. :angry: Then there'd be competition. And stop the speculators from driving prices up when price per barrel and supply is abundant. We pay 'cause THEY play. :angry: While we're at it FIX the tax amount on gas so that the tax won't go up with the price/L As I understand it.. As it is the government gets more when the gas price increases...why would they want it low! Edited April 4, 2012 by Peeves Quote
cybercoma Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Time for action indeed. Buy more fuel efficient cars. Change your driving habits. Buy locally produced goods and foods. Buy less petroleum-based plastic products. The action we need is adaption. Quote
Topaz Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Not everyone can afford a new car but they may be able to reduce the number of litres they buy. If ALL could do this it would build up the supply of gas and then the price of gas could go down because gas stays good for only 6-8 weeks. Buying gas at the lowest price station would help and then those high price stations would have to reduce their price to get rid of the gas. Perhaps the gas and oil inustry is trying to make more money to help them fight the pipeline with the First Nation across B.C. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gasoline-prices-spike-across-canada-103930598.html Quote
PIK Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 I just paid 1.31 and the gas jockey told me they are waiting for the call to put it up a nickel. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bjre Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) No surprise in such a monopoly culture. The problem is easy to solve if 1. allow anyone to build refinery plants if sell to Canada only. 2. allow anyone to build oil wells if sell to Canada only. One more important condition (the most important one): It should not be sell in the futures exchanges markets to benefit the fat cats only, even in Canada. Edited April 4, 2012 by bjre Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Shakeyhands Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 I just paid 1.31 and the gas jockey told me they are waiting for the call to put it up a nickel. 1.37 for me this morning, I thought I should probably be courteous to the next person and leave a big old bottle of lube at the pump. Saw a full service at 140.something this morning too, no reason for it. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Tilter Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Time for action indeed. Buy more fuel efficient cars. Change your driving habits. Buy locally produced goods and foods. Buy less petroleum-based plastic products. The action we need is adaption. I'm trying to co-operate with the local buying thing but I find that they run out of Pineapples & Oranges very eatly in the year & the local Mangos taste a lot like potatoes. Quote
PIK Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) No surprise in such a monopoly culture. The problem is easy to solve if 1. allow anyone to build refinery plants if sell to Canada only. 2. allow anyone to build oil wells if sell to Canada only. One more important condition (the most important one): It should not be sell in the futures exchanges markets to benefit the fat cats only, even in Canada. The eco terrorists would never allow a refinery to be built in canada. Edited April 4, 2012 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
g_bambino Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Time for action indeed. Buy more fuel efficient cars. Change your driving habits. Buy locally produced goods and foods. Buy less petroleum-based plastic products. The action we need is adaption. You don't expect entitled Westerners to do that, now do you? Quote
Tilter Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Not everyone can afford a new car but they may be able to reduce the number of litres they buy. If ALL could do this it would build up the supply of gas and then the price of gas could go down because gas stays good for only 6-8 weeks. Buying gas at the lowest price station would help and then those high price stations would have to reduce their price to get rid of the gas. Perhaps the gas and oil inustry is trying to make more money to help them fight the pipeline with the First Nation across B.C. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gasoline-prices-spike-across-canada-103930598.html Or if you can find an independent buy there exclusiveness (till the big companies won't supply him.) Quote
stopstaaron Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 More people need to walk, bike if they can.. and take public transportation if possible Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
Shady Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Time for action indeed. Buy more fuel efficient cars. Change your driving habits. Buy locally produced goods and foods. Buy less petroleum-based plastic products. The action we need is adaption. And produce more oil!!! Quote
g_bambino Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 And produce more oil!!! It takes millions of years to do that. Quote
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 More people need to walk, bike if they can.. and take public transportation if possible Public Transit actually costs more than gas. And if you can bike and walk to work, the price of gas is irrelevant to you. Most people don't live within walking distance of work and if they do, what about winter? Quote
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 And produce more oil!!! From what I hear, it's refining capacity that's the issue more than available crude. Quote
Wilber Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Refining capacity is part of it but if only the Chinese and Indians would stop buying all those cars. There is a lot more competition for this resource and it is increasing every day. Get used to it. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Shady Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 As it is the government gets more when the gas price increases...why would they want it low! The government makes more per litre of gas than does the gas station and the oil company. Quote
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Refining capacity is part of it but if only the Chinese and Indians would stop buying all those cars. There is a lot more competition for this resource and it is increasing every day. Get used to it. Yeah but the price of oil isn't reflected in this spike. There are no crisis to speak of that would affect supply. Remember last year they were blaming Libya. What are they blaming it on now? It's just profit taking. Quote
Tilter Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 From what I hear, it's refining capacity that's the issue more than available crude. I hear, it's refining GREED capacity that's the issue Quote
The_Squid Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Public Transit actually costs more than gas. I'm calling BS on this one.... $67.50 per month for a transit pass here. That's $3.38 per day of work in a month. That is $1.69 each way from work. That's more than gass??? Don't forget insurance... and remember to add in the mileage and the fact that you are now extending the life of your vehicle significantly by leaving it at home. And if you can bike and walk to work, the price of gas is irrelevant to you. Not true. People who can walk/bike don't own cars? Most people don't live within walking distance of work and if they do, what about winter? Might be a good idea to live closer to work then.... cuts down on expenses AND frees up more time in your day cuz you aren't one of the millions of mindless drones sitting in their car stuck in traffic.... Wear mittens in the winter.... Quote
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I'm calling BS on this one.... $67.50 per month for a transit pass here. That's $3.38 per day of work in a month. That is $1.69 each way from work. That's more than gass??? Don't forget insurance... and remember to add in the mileage and the fact that you are now extending the life of your vehicle significantly by leaving it at home. Not true. People who can walk/bike don't own cars? Might be a good idea to live closer to work then.... cuts down on expenses AND frees up more time in your day cuz you aren't one of the millions of mindless drones sitting in their car stuck in traffic.... Wear mittens in the winter.... If you live in the town you work It's fine. Even if you do own a car the price of gas is negligible. Many people don't live in the town or city they work in and have to commute. The price of a monthly GO-Train Pass is like $200+ And that doesn't get you to the station. You have to use the local transit to get there. And if your destination isn't walking distance from the station you're going to that's another bus you need. That's 6 transit rides in one day just to get to work and back. And living in the same town you work isn't always workable. What if you're married and you and your spouse work in opposite direction so you choose to live in a town that splits the difference. What if you get a new job, are you suddenly supposed to sell your house and move? How much would say is a reasonable bike ride to work? 20 kms plus? 30? 50? And what if you work in an office environment? You supposed to go have a shower after you get to work? Edited April 4, 2012 by Boges Quote
The_Squid Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 If you live in the town you work It's fine. Even if you do own a car the price of gas is negligible. Many people don't live in the town or city they work in and have to commute. The price of a monthly GO-Train Pass is like $200+ And that doesn't get you to the station. You have to use the local transit to get there. And if your destination isn't walking distance from the station you're going to that's another bus you need. That's 6 transit rides in one day just to get to work and back. How much would say is a reasonable bike ride to work? 20 kms plus? 30? 50? And what if you work in an office environment? You supposed to go have a shower after you get to work? Perhaps move closer to work if this is an issue.... Why would anyone live 20km+ from their work? That's just plain dumb! If you need to take 6 busses to get to work, then you picked a dumb place to live. You should have looked at that before you bought there.... Quote
Wilber Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah but the price of oil isn't reflected in this spike. There are no crisis to speak of that would affect supply. Remember last year they were blaming Libya. What are they blaming it on now? It's just profit taking. It's supply and demand. If you don't think so, try doing without it. No demand, no profit. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Perhaps move closer to work if this is an issue.... Why would anyone live 20km+ from their work? That's just plain dumb! If you need to take 6 busses to get to work, then you picked a dumb place to live. You should have looked at that before you bought there.... You didn't read all my post. What if you're married and you and your spouse don't work in the same town? I don't have a huge commute to work, but my wife kind of does. If we moved to where she worked, then I'd have a really large commute. In this economy it's not always easy to choose where you work. And it's not easy to move all the time. Especially if you own your home. If you look at the 401 every morning. Plenty of people work far from where they live. My mother has driven from the suburbs into downtown Toronto for more than 30 years. She says with all the hassel of public transit, driving is the far better solution. She also made the point that as the population spreads out, traffic isn't getting as bad as it used to be. Quote
Boges Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 It's supply and demand. If you don't think so, try doing without it. No demand, no profit. Where's your evidence that demand today is at a record level. Quote
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