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I don't think there is a way to know for sure. Documents can be forged. It could be made up. He is not alive so one can't be 100 % certain it's real.

I'm with you on this one.

It seems a lot of people are buying this one way too fast!

Much like the video footage on the eve of the 2004 presidential election!

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Guest Derek L
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Just a side note here-Chairman Maos son died in the Korean military conflict

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And didn't Stalin lose family members also? Prince Andrew served in the Falklands, and William is done there now and Harry went to the dirt box....

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If Bin Laden is steering his kids out of harm's way by encouraging them to become westerners, isn't he in effect also steering them into the danger zone of Al-Qaeda's sights?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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Yeah, right.

:lol:

It seems like a fair question in light of the special revulsion that is reserved for westerners who join Al-Qaeda.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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I dont remember any western leaders sending their kids off to die lately either.... just hundreds of thousands of other peoples kids.

uhhh... I see you've been countered with reference to a handful of U.S. Congressional members having sons/daughters serving - impressive - not! Of course, one wonders just how actively engaged even that small disproportionate number has been.

at least today's 'all volunteer' thingee takes the chickenhawk sting off all those past profile deferments, ala Dick Cheney, G.W. Bush, Jeb Bush, John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rudi Giuliani, Joe Lieberman, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, etc., etc., etc.

Guest American Woman
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It's not the "American press" putting this out - though some respond as if it were - it's not "westerners" who claimed to have found his will - and this is his brother-in-law saying bin Laden told his children and grandchildren of his wishes. Seems to me if it weren't true bin Laden's children and grandchildren would easily be able to refute it - so why would the brother-in-law make it up?

I just can't help but notice that the non-believers who simply choose not to believe it but to blame the U.S. for making it up/putting out propaganda without any critical thought think their automatic non-belief is so much more open minded than those who think there could be some truth behind it.

If he did want his kids and grandkids to live in peace with the West and get a university education in Europe/America, certainly he was recognizing the advantages of our cultures.

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It seems like a fair question in light of the special revulsion that is reserved for westerners who join Al-Qaeda.

That would assume that al-Qaeda doesn't do its prep-work pre-attack. But, this group has taken a beating over the last while. Serious international terrorism might be beyond them at the moment...possibly for good.

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uhhh... I see you've been countered with reference to a handful of U.S. Congressional members having sons/daughters serving - impressive - not! Of course, one wonders just how actively engaged even that small disproportionate number has been.

at least today's 'all volunteer' thingee takes the chickenhawk sting off all those past profile deferments, ala Dick Cheney, G.W. Bush, Jeb Bush, John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rudi Giuliani, Joe Lieberman, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, etc., etc., etc.

Naturally, you'd have hauled your rear to The Nam on your own dime rather than attend university.

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That would assume that al-Qaeda doesn't do its prep-work pre-attack.

You'll have to expand on that a little, I don't know what you're getting at.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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It definitely does. Although to be fair, many government officials have children or relatives in the armed forces, and serving or have served in places like Afghanistan. And I doubt that they share the same disregard for a fellow soldier dying in combat. Not to mention that operations specifically based on suicide aren't usually part of the overall strategy. But I get your point.

bush? cheney? wolfowitz? rumsfeld? feith? scooter libby? bolton? elliot abrams? woolsey? richard perle?

which one of these guys have children serving in the military?

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uhhh... I see you've been countered with reference to a handful of U.S. Congressional members having sons/daughters serving - impressive - not! Of course, one wonders just how actively engaged even that small disproportionate number has been.

at least today's 'all volunteer' thingee takes the chickenhawk sting off all those past profile deferments, ala Dick Cheney, G.W. Bush, Jeb Bush, John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rudi Giuliani, Joe Lieberman, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, etc., etc., etc.

Naturally, you'd have hauled your rear to The Nam on your own dime rather than attend university.

whatever I may or may not have done, you couldn't label me with the "Chickenhawk" tag, hey? In any case, we could have some fun here... I'm particularly fond of the Rush Limbaugh college deferment that was lost after he dropped out his first year... only to have a "miraculous" deferment come along associated with his, ahem... protracted "pilonidal cyst"!

Guest Derek L
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uhhh... I see you've been countered with reference to a handful of U.S. Congressional members having sons/daughters serving - impressive - not! Of course, one wonders just how actively engaged even that small disproportionate number has been.

at least today's 'all volunteer' thingee takes the chickenhawk sting off all those past profile deferments, ala Dick Cheney, G.W. Bush, Jeb Bush, John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rudi Giuliani, Joe Lieberman, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, etc., etc., etc.

"W" served with the Texas ANG and received a honourable discharge……Jeb Bush registered for the draft but his number was never called......

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To add, Palin's son.

I was talking about western leaders... heads of state, prime ministers, presidents, etc.

Sarah Palin is as much of a "leader" as bozo the clown, and same goes for the retards in congress.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

Guest Derek L
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I was talking about western leaders... heads of state, prime ministers, presidents, etc.

Sarah Palin is as much of a "leader" as bozo the clown, and same goes for the retards in congress.

Perhaps you should be more clear when defining your goalposts in the future….Still, she was a Vice Presidential candidate, hawkish, and her son served………..I think the only two presidents within the last ~70 years without military service were Clinton and Obama………

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Perhaps you should be more clear when defining your goalposts in the future….Still, she was a Vice Presidential candidate, hawkish, and her son served………..I think the only two presidents within the last ~70 years without military service were Clinton and Obama………

The goalposts were set just fine. "Western Leaders". The reason for the disconnect is that you appear to think Sarah Palin IS one :lol:

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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The goalposts were set just fine. "Western Leaders". The reason for the disconnect is that you appear to think Sarah Palin IS one :lol:

Let's have a peek at Canada's recent "leaders" and military service:


John Diefenbaker 	Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Lester Bowles Pearson 	Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Pierre Trudeau 	        Canadian Army Home Service / Canadian Army Reserve 	        Officer cadet
Joe Clark 	        none 	none 	none
John Napier Turner 	none 	none 	none
Brian Mulroney 	        none 	none 	none
Kim Campbell 	        none 	none 	none                                           Minister of National Defence 1993
Jean Chrétien 	        none 	none 	none
Paul Martin 	        none 	none 	none
Stephen Harper 	        none 	none 	none

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Guest Derek L
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The goalposts were set just fine. "Western Leaders". The reason for the disconnect is that you appear to think Sarah Palin IS one :lol:

Sure she could be defined as a leader……..She was a Governor.

Guest Derek L
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Let's have a peek at Canada's recent "leaders" and military service:


John Diefenbaker 	Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Lester Bowles Pearson 	Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Pierre Trudeau 	        Canadian Army Home Service / Canadian Army Reserve 	        Officer cadet
Joe Clark 	        none 	none 	none
John Napier Turner 	none 	none 	none
Brian Mulroney 	        none 	none 	none
Kim Campbell 	        none 	none 	none                                           Minister of National Defence 1993
Jean Chrétien 	        none 	none 	none
Paul Martin 	        none 	none 	none
Stephen Harper 	        none 	none 	none

That’s telling, but look at our current Head of State and her families service……..

Posted (edited)

That’s telling, but look at our current Head of State and her families service……..

Yes, they have to pick up all the slack! No PM service is the norm for Canada in the last century, adding:


Sir Charles Tupper 	        none 	none 	none
Sir Wilfrid Laurier 	        none 	none 	none
Sir Robert Laird Borden 	none 	none 	none
Arthur Meighen 	                none 	none 	none
William Lyon Mackenzie King 	none 	none 	none
Richard Bedford Bennett 	none 	none 	none
Louis St. Laurent 	        none 	none 	none
John Diefenbaker 	        Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Lester Bowles Pearson 	        Canadian Expeditionary Force (Permanent Active Militia) 	Lieutenant 	
Pierre Trudeau 	                Canadian Army Home Service / Canadian Army Reserve 	        Officer cadet
Joe Clark 	                none 	none 	none
John Napier Turner 	        none 	none 	none
Brian Mulroney 	                none 	none 	none
Kim Campbell 	                none 	none 	none                                           Minister of National Defence 1993
Jean Chrétien 	                none 	none 	none
Paul Martin 	                none 	none 	none
Stephen Harper 	                none 	none 	none

I'm going to remember this the next time someone calls American presidents or cabinet members "chickenhawks".

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Guest Derek L
Posted

Yes, they have to pick up all the slack! No PM service is the norm for Canada in the last century, adding:


Sir Charles Tupper 	        none 	none 	none
Sir Wilfrid Laurier 	        none 	none 	none
Sir Robert Laird Borden 	none 	none 	none
Arthur Meighen 	                none 	none 	none
William Lyon Mackenzie King 	none 	none 	none
Richard Bedford Bennett 	none 	none 	none
Louis St. Laurent 	        none 	none 	none

I agree, very few former members of the Canadian Armed Forces go into politics………I honestly don’t know why…..

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I'm going to remember this the next time someone calls American presidents or cabinet members "chickenhawks".

you should really acquaint yourself with what the term means, hey?

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"W" served with the Texas ANG and received a honourable discharge……

of course he did :lol:

Jeb Bush registered for the draft but his number was never called......

yabut... it's a real mystery how his low number never was called when others way beyond were and went to Vietnam. A googly shows two diverging themes; one that follows the "number never came up", and numerous references to call-ups for persons born after Jeb "the next one" Bush! Things that make you go hmmmmm.

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