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I think I made a connection that few of you have the capacity to see

So that's why they call you Signals.

I think I get it now.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Where is your proof of this? Or are the voices in your head telling you this "secret" information?

its called reading between the lines kind of like what you just did except

mine is backed up by media... google iran nuclear scientists assassinated

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its called reading between the lines kind of like what you just did except

mine is backed up by media... google iran nuclear scientists assassinated

The Iranians can't even determine if he is or is not a nuclear scientist, and what makes you think it is the US, Israel or any other foreign power? Could it be the Iranians just cleaning house and maybe just maybe removing people that a) spoke a little too openly to western nations, or b)were ready to defect. This event has no direct link to anyone except for the Claim made by Iran that Israel has committed this assassination. I think that if it came to assassinations, the Americans and Israelis could in fact come up with a better strategy to permanently end Iran’s nuclear ambitions rather than expose themselves to potential discovery for miniscule results.

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I must appologise, I think I made a connection that few of you have the capacity to see unless there is a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv. He states Israel will soon be destroyed, essentialy calls for the annialation of a Nation, and is attempting to build nuclear weapons. If I threatened you and on a completely unrelated note tried to aquaire a weapon for "peaceful" purposes would you make the connection or would you wait for me to come to your house with that weapon?

Iranian leadership clearly doesn't like Israel. In fact, i'm sure they do wish they could blow them away with a nuke. But is this wishful rhetoric or a sign of intent?

Iran still hasn't specifically threatened them with nukes, as you claimed. Also, even if they did threaten them it is much different to actually go through with it, considering much of Iran would be destroyed via nuke retaliations from Israel. Do the Ayatollah's and Ahmadinejad want to go down as the ones who destroyed Israel, while at the same time being the worst Iranian leaders ever (given that they would be all but destroyed in retaliation)?

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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Do the Ayatollah's and Ahmadinejad want to go down as the ones who destroyed Israel, while at the same time being the worst Iranian leaders ever (given that they would be all but destroyed in retaliation)?

Please. These are dudes who truely believe in the Hereafter. Not only would they rid the planet of the dreaded Jew for their fellow Muslim...or a good chunk of the dreaded Jews, anyways...but, they'd also score points with the Big A up in Heaven. Perhaps 144 virgins...who knows?

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I must appologise, I think I made a connection that few of you have the capacity to see unless there is a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv.

Mr. Bush? Is that you? Ms Rice?

He states Israel will soon be destroyed, essentialy calls for the annialation of a Nation, and is attempting to build nuclear weapons. If I threatened you and on a completely unrelated note tried to aquaire a weapon for "peaceful" purposes would you make the connection or would you wait for me to come to your house with that weapon?

Yeah and our leaders actually go in and kill people like Achmedinijad,.. Saddam, Gadhafi. You tell me who is more scared of getting wiped out. Iran is no threat. The whole destabalization in the Middle East is a bigger issue, as is the financial crisis.

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Mr. Bush? Is that you? Ms Rice?

Yeah and our leaders actually go in and kill people like Achmedinijad,.. Saddam, Gadhafi. You tell me who is more scared of getting wiped out. Iran is no threat. The whole destabalization in the Middle East is a bigger issue, as is the financial crisis.

I am sorry; I completely agree with you, I mean there are no examples in history to back up what I'm saying are there? It’s not like Hitler wrote in his book that he wanted to destroy France as a power, or I don’t know, conquer Poland and Czechoslovakia. He definitely NEVER made a reference to his hatred of the Jews, or that they "deserved" to be gassed. The world stuck its collective head in the sand and left 11,000,000 people Jews, Slavic people, mentally and physically disabled, Homosexuals, and any one of those “undesirable” races, anybody not part of the "Aryan" race or allies) to be treated in an inhumane (understatement of the millennium) way and subsequently killed them enmasse and in again understatement but a grotesque way. Hitler said he would do it, waited until he was confident he could succeed committed one of the worst crimes against humanity in the history of the world, and the saddest part is, that he warned EVERYONE when he wrote his book.

So when we look at Iran, and they say that they want to destroy Israel in my humble opinion, we as a civilized world should make sure that does NOT happen because the alternatives are too dark to consider. This is not a decision the world body can lightly, as the consequences are too grave if the wrong choice is made.

Saddam- Captured by US military executed by Iraqi government. Not Americans.

Gadhafi- Libyan rebels killed that guy.

I know that you would tell me that Americans were there for both, and yes the first one being a trial probably Americans were there, Iraqi’s had no qualms about killing that piece of trash.

As for Gadhafi, you might need to show proof, not assumption.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst

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so many other countries are withdrawing their diplomats from Iran...doesn't this kind of signal Iran is going to be attacked soon? the EU is asking nations to leave Iran

I doubt there will be an attack..They will be economically isolated by the West,which will also have the illuminating effect of showing who is really backing that looney regime,and hopefully this foments a civil insurrection that topples said quacks!

Oops!!!..I said "illuminating"...Perahps you could go to globalresearch.ca and see if it's The Illuminati pulling the global strings here??

Edited by Jack Weber

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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I doubt there will be an attack..They will be economically isolated by the West,which will also have the illuminating effect of showing who is really backing that looney regime,and hopefully this foments a civil insurrection that topples said quacks!

Oops!!!..I said "illuminating"...Perahps you could go to globalresearch.ca and see if it's The Illuminati pulling the global strings here??

i wasnt aware that ive been posting links from globalresearch... i dont even believe in the illuminati

theres no need for you to act like an ass to me

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i wasnt aware that ive been posting links from globalresearch... i dont even believe in the illuminati

theres no need for you to act like an ass to me

You have'nt had to post from globalresearch.ca....You've simply parrotted their kooky conspiracy theorist line...

Just like ol' Fidel at Bedwetter.ca...

And it takes one to know one...

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/dec/13/secondworldwar.iran

http://www.meforum.org/2167/iran-genocidal-incitement-israel

Youtube video to view, a couple of articles to read. Just because you had your head stuck in the sand, does not mean the rest of us did likewise.

If Irans government is promoting "death to Israel" Imagine what would happen if they had access to nukes.

You said: they have said that should they receive nukes, they would at first opportunity destroy Israel.

Lets look at the links you have provided to support your claim above:

Link 1 - Ahmadinejad talks about the "regime in Israel". Nothing about nuking Israel.

Link 2 - Same thing.

Link 3 - Same thing.

Link 4 - Again, he talks about the "Zionist regime". No talk about nuking Israel.

Link 5 - There is a list of comments with similar rhetoric about the israeli/zionist regime who they deem as illegitimate. Not one comment about using nuclear weapons to destroy Israel.

It should be noted that we continuously see comments from the West especially from the Israeli government and leaders towards Iran, Arab countries, Arabs, Muslims and more recently a heavy and brutal language towards Iranians and the Iranian government.

Time and time again, we've seen Ahmadinejad comment about removing Israeli/Zionist regime which he sees as illegitimate rulers of the land. But he has never promoted genocide of Jews, especially with a nuclear weapon. Especially since there are thousands of Jews living in Iran and the Persian history with Jews. Jews who have been saved and liberated by Persians at least a couple of times.

Conclusion: Your comment is off base and you are sharing misinformation.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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propaganda machine in full swing

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-01/iran-would-hit-u-s-bases-in-germany-in-case-of-war-bild-says.html

Iran plans to attack U.S. Air Force bases in Germany to disrupt supplies should the country become the target of U.S. air strikes because of its nuclear program, Bild newspaper reported, citing a probe by the Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigation.

The Federal Prosecutor’s Office has initiated preliminary proceedings against a German national on the grounds of suspected spying activity for sabotage purposes, the newspaper said. The German businessman is thought to have had “conspiratorial contacts” with the Iranian embassy in Berlin, Bild said.

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propaganda machine in full swing

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-01/iran-would-hit-u-s-bases-in-germany-in-case-of-war-bild-says.html

Iran plans to attack U.S. Air Force bases in Germany to disrupt supplies should the country become the target of U.S. air strikes because of its nuclear program, Bild newspaper reported, citing a probe by the Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigation.

The Federal Prosecutors Office has initiated preliminary proceedings against a German national on the grounds of suspected spying activity for sabotage purposes, the newspaper said. The German businessman is thought to have had conspiratorial contacts with the Iranian embassy in Berlin, Bild said.

Propaganda???

Did we not just hear of,about 6 weeks ago,an Iranian spy ring in the US intent on blowing buildings were important government officials might hang out in???

I did hear about that,did I not?

It's not like they have'nt done this clandestine stuff before...

Edited by Jack Weber

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Propaganda???

Did we not just hear of,about 6 weeks ago,an Iranian spy ring in the US intent on blowing buildings were important government officials might hang out in???

I did hear about that,did I not?

It's not like they have'nt done this clandestine stuff before...

So we can forget about the agents of the CIA arrested in Iran? Not like the CIA does anything shady like that.

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So we can forget about the agents of the CIA arrested in Iran? Not like the CIA does anything shady like that.

No you can't,however,these are the nature of things in covert operations...

And again,the Iranians were caught first with the clear intention of blowing stuff up!!!

Should we just say that was a one off thing??

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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Propaganda???

Did we not just hear of,about 6 weeks ago,an Iranian spy ring in the US intent on blowing buildings were important government officials might hang out in???

I did hear about that,did I not?

It's not like they have'nt done this clandestine stuff before...

that was too far fetched to believe as it made no sense

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You said: they have said that should they receive nukes, they would at first opportunity destroy Israel.

Lets look at the links you have provided to support your claim above:

Link 1 - Ahmadinejad talks about the "regime in Israel". Nothing about nuking Israel.

Link 2 - Same thing.

Link 3 - Same thing.

Link 4 - Again, he talks about the "Zionist regime". No talk about nuking Israel.

Link 5 - There is a list of comments with similar rhetoric about the israeli/zionist regime who they deem as illegitimate. Not one comment about using nuclear weapons to destroy Israel.

It should be noted that we continuously see comments from the West especially from the Israeli government and leaders towards Iran, Arab countries, Arabs, Muslims and more recently a heavy and brutal language towards Iranians and the Iranian government.

Time and time again, we've seen Ahmadinejad comment about removing Israeli/Zionist regime which he sees as illegitimate rulers of the land. But he has never promoted genocide of Jews, especially with a nuclear weapon. Especially since there are thousands of Jews living in Iran and the Persian history with Jews. Jews who have been saved and liberated by Persians at least a couple of times.

Conclusion: Your comment is off base and you are sharing misinformation.

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Israel will soon dissapear
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This origin of corruption will soon be wiped of the earth's face

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Death to Israel

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The president, who has dismissed the murder of six million Jews by the Nazis as a myth told up to 70 visiting speakers that the Israeli state would soon be wiped out.

5) When I reread this one it seems more biased then my initial assesment.

As you can see the 2nd source to 4th source make the Iranian position perfectly clear. When he says death to Israel, and we will wipe Israel from the face of the earth, oh by the way we are getting nukes for peacefull purposes it rings some bells. What would it take for you to be convinced that they in tend genocide if they build the means to accomplish the task.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst

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propaganda machine in full swing

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-01/iran-would-hit-u-s-bases-in-germany-in-case-of-war-bild-says.html

Iran plans to attack U.S. Air Force bases in Germany to disrupt supplies should the country become the target of U.S. air strikes because of its nuclear program, Bild newspaper reported, citing a probe by the Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigation.

The Federal Prosecutor’s Office has initiated preliminary proceedings against a German national on the grounds of suspected spying activity for sabotage purposes, the newspaper said. The German businessman is thought to have had “conspiratorial contacts” with the Iranian embassy in Berlin, Bild said.

And they’d fair about as well as Spetsnaz would have in the 1980s........ :rolleyes:

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So we can forget about the agents of the CIA arrested in Iran? Not like the CIA does anything shady like that.

Which agents? Most Americans who are cough by the Iranians could be called alot of things, like for example Idiots, but I dont think they are agents of the CIA. If they were agents, they would have been on display to show how much smarter and better Iran is compared to the US.

Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst

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2) also

3)

4)

5) When I reread this one it seems more biased then my initial assesment.

As you can see the 2nd source to 4th source make the Iranian position perfectly clear. When he says death to Israel, and we will wipe Israel from the face of the earth, oh by the way we are getting nukes for peacefull purposes it rings some bells. What would it take for you to be convinced that they in tend genocide if they build the means to accomplish the task.

For at least one person here,and it's probably on either the first or 2nd page of this,we should simply allow Iran to gain nuclear capability AND THEN see if they will use it ina militaristic fashion...

By the way,I used the rise of the 3rd Reich theory (circa 1936) on these folks and they don't seem to see how history repeats itself..

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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Which agents? Most Americans who are cough by the Iranians could be called alot of things, like for example Idiots, but I dont think they are agents of the CIA. If they were agents, they would have been on display to show how much smarter and better Iran is compared to the US.

Remember,the nutters in Tehran arrested some hikers recently and held them captive because,being American,they had to be spies!!!

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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