jacee Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 New footage has emerged showing Israeli soldiers carrying out a demolition project and destroying several homes to Palestinian Bedouins in the occupied West Bank Without showing demolition orders, two bulldozers, escorted by five military vehicles, entered the village of Beit Hanina on Thursday. The bulldozers then began destroying a number of homes as well as a barn, the Palestinian WAFA news agency reported Israel claims it demolished the buildings, saying they were built without a permit According to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), Israeli demolitions have in the first half of 2011 displaced some 700 people Chris Gunness, UNRWA spokesperson, says most of the demolitions targets vulnerable Bedouins.” The UN agency added that demolitions tend to take place in areas considered for illegal Israeli settlement expansions PM/JR/HGH Related Stories: -Israel razes mosque in West Bank -More Palestinian homes razed in 2010 -Israel demolishes two Palestinian homes -Israel razes another Palestinian home -Israel razes mosque in West Bank -Israel demolishes more Palestinian homes http://edition.presstv.ir/mobile/detail.aspx?id=212017 Why does official 'Canada' continue to support Israeli aggression and its ultra-right-wing government, while even moderate Canadian Jews do not?? Israel says it wants a negotiated solution but the aggression against Palestinians says otherwise. What does Israel want? If this was any other country, we'd be considering sanctions. Quote
Bonam Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Great. An Iranian news outlet. I'm sure their reports are unbiased, truthful, and well sourced. It should be pointed out that many supposed videos of Israeli aggression or actions during military campaigns have been heavily doctored, or, in some cases, entirely staged. Why does Canada support Israel? Because, fortunately, our present government isn't blinded by anti-Israeli propaganda. What does Israel want? Security. Not to have rockets constantly fired at its citizens. Strategically important territories cannot be ceded to an authority unable to control terrorist elements among its own people. As for if this was any other country, we wouldn't give a damn. How many thousands are constantly killed in Africa without anyone in the West even noticing? Meanwhile every Palestinian with a grievance gets prime time. Quote
wyly Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 What does Israel want? obviously israel does not want a negotiated settlement, it's pursuing a relentless campaign of annexing areas of the west bank to make a viable palestinian state an impossibility, to make life for palestinians so difficult they leave the west bank permanently... If this was any other country, we'd be considering sanctions.if this were any other country our government would be calling it out for what it is...ethnic cleansing... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
GostHacked Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 So, the Palestinians needs to get a permit from Israel to build in either Gaza or the West Bank? If they don't they risk having those buildings destroyed? Quote
wyly Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 So, the Palestinians needs to get a permit from Israel to build in either Gaza or the West Bank? If they don't they risk having those buildings destroyed? yup, and permits are rarely given...hypothetically speaking can you imagine being a canadian living in canada and the USA occupied us and it gave permits to americans to move here without our consent and giving them freedom to build while we were denied the same right in our own country? and this has been going on for 40years.... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 ...hypothetically speaking can you imagine being a canadian living in canada and the USA occupied us and it gave permits to americans to move here without our consent and giving them freedom to build while we were denied the same right in our own country? and this has been going on for 40years.... This can be arranged if you want to match your anxiety. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olp1fan Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 This is something Canada should stay stay neutral on. No Canadian soldiers lives are worth dying in the Mid east over land dispute Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) So, the Palestinians needs to get a permit from Israel to build in either Gaza or the West Bank? If they don't they risk having those buildings destroyed? Try building without a building permit in Canada. See what happens. Hint...it involves bulldozers. Edited November 25, 2011 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 obviously israel does not want a negotiated settlement, it's pursuing a relentless campaign of annexing areas of the west bank to make a viable palestinian state an impossibility, to make life for palestinians so difficult they leave the west bank permanently... if this were any other country our government would be calling it out for what it is...ethnic cleansing... lol...ethnic cleansing. There are more so-called Palestinians than EVER....and they continue to breed at terrific rates. Meanwhile, how are the Jews living outside Israel in Arab countries doing? What? There are barely any Jews left in the Muslim Arab world if there are ANY AT ALL? Gee...I wonder why??? Could it be that they've been...oh, I don't know..."culturally washed" from those regions? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 25, 2011 Report Posted November 25, 2011 Yeah...we heard. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Try building without a building permit in Canada. See what happens. Hint...it involves bulldozers. I know you fail to understand why this is not a good comparison. But that's ok. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 I know you fail to understand why this is not a good comparison. But that's ok. Oh really? Seems we had numerous good examples last week with the occupy movement. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Oh really? Seems we had numerous good examples last week with the occupy movement. Try to stay on topic. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Try to stay on topic. Yeah...it hurts when you're wrong GH. You'll get over it. Fact remains no matter where you build in the civilized world, you'll need proper paperwork. That includes Israel's administrated lands. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 Except the Israeli settlements ... Quote
GostHacked Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Yeah...it hurts when you're wrong GH. You'll get over it. Fact remains no matter where you build in the civilized world, you'll need proper paperwork. That includes Israel's administrated lands. You mean the occupied lands. Can't change that fact by changing the name to 'administered'. Wonder what the rate of Jewish settlements that don't get building permits. Seems only Palestinians get theirs torn down, even if they did have proper permits. But I could be wrong, so wrong it's hurting. Ouch. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 You mean the occupied lands. Can't change that fact by changing the name to 'administered'. Wonder what the rate of Jewish settlements that don't get building permits. Seems only Palestinians get theirs torn down, even if they did have proper permits. But I could be wrong, so wrong it's hurting. Ouch. Israelis who build w/o permit are subject to the same rules. As well, they are at the will & whim of their own government. They could be used as a political pawn in negotiations by being uprooted from their homes like everybody else in the area. Ask the Israelis who used to live in Gaza. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Posted November 28, 2011 Israelis who build w/o permit are subject to the same rules. As well, they are at the will & whim of their own government. They could be used as a political pawn in negotiations by being uprooted from their homes like everybody else in the area. Ask the Israelis who used to live in Gaza. I believe you are wrong about the permits. Israeli settlements don't always have them and they never get removed by Israel.In fact, the bulldozed Palestinian settlement stood on ground that was to be for another (unofficial) Israeli settlement. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 You mean the occupied lands. Can't change that fact by changing the name to 'administered'. Wonder what the rate of Jewish settlements that don't get building permits. Seems only Palestinians get theirs torn down, even if they did have proper permits. But I could be wrong, so wrong it's hurting. Ouch. "administered" being a euphemism for annexed and ethnically cleansed... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Guest Peeves Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 I know you fail to understand why this is not a good comparison. But that's ok. What about the Jews kicked out of Arab countries? Is this a one sided issue? I don't think so. Look at how the Syrians are treating 'Palestinians." Isn't it about time that 'we' stopped making Israel out to be the bad guy, when Arabs are killing (not just demolishing illegal shacks), citizens in Muslin countries that want the democracy 'Palestinians" enjoy in Israel and the occupied territories? Selective finger pointing is getting quite boring. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Selective finger pointing is getting quite boring. I agree. It happens on both sides. So best not to participate in the selective finger pointing. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 What about the Jews kicked out of Arab countries? Is this a one sided issue? I don't think so. Look at how the Syrians are treating 'Palestinians." Isn't it about time that 'we' stopped making Israel out to be the bad guy, when Arabs are killing (not just demolishing illegal shacks), citizens in Muslin countries that want the democracy 'Palestinians" enjoy in Israel and the occupied territories? jews lived peaceful existence in islamic countries until the zionists began ethnic cleansing campaign in palestine...islamic lands have been refuge for the religiously persecuted for centuries, during the inquisition in europe where did the jews find shelter? ya that's right islamic lands...Selective finger pointing is getting quite boring.selective historical knowledge is boring... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Boges Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 at Zionism smack. Grow up seriously! Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 at Zionism smack. Grow up seriously! get an education seriously! Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
DogOnPorch Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 Israeli settlements don't always have them and they never get removed by Israel. Horse hockey. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%27s_unilateral_disengagement_plan Removed. You're welcome to provide proof that Israel builds w/o permits from their government with the support of their government. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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