olp1fan Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) Why must the Cons insist on changing Canada? All this has to do with is the Arctic... plus the Russians are the bear lets just be beavers who gnaw on the trees that fall and kill the Bears http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/10/27/nicole-eaton-senator-national-symbol_n_1062637.html OTTAWA - A Conservative senator says it's time Canada was symbolized by something more majestic than a buck-toothed rodent. Sen. Nicole Eaton wants the polar bear to replace the beaver as an official emblem of Canada. She says the polar bear is Canada's "most majestic and splendid mammal," and a powerful symbol in the lives of aboriginal peoples in the North. She believes the furry white carnivore's "strength, courage, resourcefulness and dignity" is an appropriate symbol for modern-day Canada. By contrast, she derides the lowly beaver as a "19th century has-been," a "dentally defective rat," a "toothy tyrant" and a nuisance that wreaks havoc on its environment. Eaton acknowledges the beaver's involuntary role in founding Canada — as the fashionable pelts that fuelled the fur trade — but she says it's now time for a change. "A country's symbols are not constant and can change over time as long as they reflect the ethos of the people and the spirit of the nation," Eaton told her Senate colleagues Thursday. "The polar bear, with its strength, courage, resourcefulness and dignity is perfect for the part." Eaton said the beaver should "step aside as a Canadian emblem, or, at the least, share the honour with the stately polar bear." Edited October 27, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 The beaver is an amazing animal, no joke. Let it be. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
olp1fan Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 The beaver is an amazing animal, no joke. Let it be. According to the Canadian hating Tory senator canadians are defective rats Quote
Wilber Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Canada as we know it wouldn't exist without the North West Company, the Hudson Bay Company and their involvment in the fur trade which was centered on the beaver. It would without the polar bear. I take it she likely wasn't in favour of restoring the use of "Royal" to parts of our military. Beavers can be a PITA but no more than some Senators. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
noahbody Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 The only problem I have with the beaver is that it reminds me of the Green Party. Quote
Wilber Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Why must the Cons insist on changing Canada? All this has to do with is the Arctic... plus the Russians are the bear lets just be beavers who gnaw on the trees that fall and kill the Bears It seems to be a favourite pastime of some Canadian politicians and not just Conservatives. Remember Chretien wanting to change the name of Mt. Logan to Mt. Trudeau. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
olp1fan Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 It seems to be a favourite pastime of some Canadian politicians and not just Conservatives. Remember Chretien wanting to change the name of Mt. Logan to Mt. Trudeau. cons do it more Quote
olp1fan Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 whats next renaming the loonie and toonie? Quote
Shwa Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 whats next renaming the loonie and toonie? It's all about the modern perspective. Nicole Eaton was probably reading this Oatmeal comic and got carried away. And who wouldn't! Riding polar bears to work would be awesome. Plus, when I got to work, people would get me coffee without me even having to ask. Quote
Tilter Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 whats next renaming the loonie and toonie? Doubloon is a better name for the 2bucker Quote
guyser Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Canada as we know it wouldn't exist without the North West Company, the Hudson Bay Company and their involvment in the fur trade which was centered on the beaver. It would without the polar bear. I take it she likely wasn't in favour of restoring the use of "Royal" to parts of our military. Beavers can be a PITA but no more than some Senators. Well said Wilber Besides , I really like Beaver ! Quote
olp1fan Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 Doubloon is a better name for the 2bucker doubloon is hard to say toonie is not plus toonie makes more sense Quote
eyeball Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 The only problem I have with the beaver is that it reminds me of the Green Party. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
fellowtraveller Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 The only problem I have with the beaver is that it reminds me of the Green Party. The only problem I have with the beaver is its association with....well.... you know. Quote The government should do something.
g_bambino Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Why must the Cons insist on changing Canada? Isn't the implication in that question just a little bit biased, ignoring, as it does, the fact that the Liberals also insisted on changing Canada (not that this suggestion by an MP is an insistance by either the Conservative Party or the present Cabinet)? And where was the outrage over NDP meddling with Canadian identity when Pat Martin proposed putting Metis symbols into our royal coat of arms? That said, this Conservative senator should build a better understanding of our quiet but industrious beaver. When has a polar bear ever built his own home? Lazy bears... [correct] Edited October 28, 2011 by g_bambino Quote
Wilber Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Doubloon is a better name for the 2bucker ARR Matey, I've always liked Doubloon as well. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Vineon Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 I'm amused they call themselves 'Conservatives'. Quote
wyly Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 another conservative brain fart...replace a symbol that is found in every province for a more geographically limited species...the beaver is a perfect symbol, non aggressive, relentless worker developing his home to the benefit of all around it...unless it's your land he's flooding then it's a bit annoying ...but still as a keystone specie essential to our environments well being Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Shwa Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) The National Post nailed it! InfoGraphic Beavers vs Bears Edited October 28, 2011 by Shwa Quote
Battletoads Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 "a "toothy tyrant" and a nuisance that wreaks havoc on its environment" - Typical Canadian Conservative "Beaver ponds, and the wetlands that succeed them, remove sediments and pollutants from waterways, including total suspended solids, total nitrogen, phosphates, carbon and silicates" "The actions of beavers for hundreds of thousands of years in the Northern Hemisphere have kept these watery systems healthy and in good repair" "The beaver works as a keystone species in an ecosystem by creating wetlands that are used by many other species" - Anyone with a smidgin of intelligence Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
CPCFTW Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Leave it to the left to make a mountain out of a molehill and generalize 40% of the population based on the comments of one person. Omg rob ford said the f word!?! Bring out the guillotine!! What!? Someone had an independant thought and believes the polar bear would be more representative of Canada than the beaver? Call in the firing squad!! How dare she form that opinion without at least 6hrs of groupthink and brainstorming, and without cross-referencing her opinion against at least 4 blogs and 10 tweets? Silly conservatives and their independent free thought! Now if you'll excuse me, some hippy at OWS is shouting sentence fragments and I feel compelled to repeat his every word like a mindless drone. Too much inequality! All must be equal! We are the borg! I mean the 99%!! Edited October 29, 2011 by CPCFTW Quote
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Leave it to the left to make a mountain out of a molehill and generalize 40% of the population based on the comments of one person. Leave it to the right to lack a sense of self-deprecating humour. Heck, a lack of any sense of humour at all in some cases. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 This Polar Bear gets my vote. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 They're probably doing it to add to our case over arctic sovereignty. It's silly politicking. Quote
PIK Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 It will never happen. And on changing canada, the left here sounds like they did not know that we had a canada ,before trudeau showed up and turned her upside down. All harper is doing is going back to our roots. Why does the left hate canada and her very proud history. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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