OCCUPY

[cybercoma]

What am I going to link 10 pages worth of sources?

He wanted proof that there was opinions about the CBC being biased, I provided a google search full of them.

The first three results are Ezra Levant's website, a personal blog and a Facebook group.

I'm sure you understand that those are not credible sources.

[cybercoma]

Exactly…….I’m certain, you know where I tend to stand politically.

Where do you stand politically? It's odd. I find myself completely opposed to many of your opinions, then other more rare times I couldn't agree with you more. You're one of those posters that I'm never entirely sure where you going to stand on something until you post.

[cybercoma]

I used to be able to watch CTV, but a few things over the last couple years just turned me off. CBC News is the only reason that I'd be sad to see CBC go.

I enjoy Canada AM, but I'm finding lately that it's more about entertainment and shopping than the actual news. It's really starting to annoy me.

[Smallc]

I'd say he's an economic conservative, a defence hawk (as they're known in the US), and very moderate socially. Actually, I find him to be somewhat similar to me in the way...except I'm probably a bit more economically minded and a bit less hawkish.

Edit: Actually, come to think of it, I'd probably be more socially liberal, but maybe not.

Edited November 18, 2011 by Smallc

[Smallc]

I enjoy Canada AM, but I'm finding lately that it's more about entertainment and shopping than the actual news. It's really starting to annoy me.

CTV really started to get to me when I realized how consumer driven their news programs were. It's like: hey, you want this, well then, you've got it. Other news is like that I suppose, but it seems so blatant with CTV.

I also find that they're never ones to let facts or details get in the way of a good story - especially Robert Fife and Kevin Newman.

Edited November 18, 2011 by Smallc

[WWWTT]

Heres another angle being used on Sun TV that I have noticed that I find interesting.

Apparently they are claiming that Gordon Lightfoots daughter has bein attending and supporting the OCCUPY protests.And claiming that Lightfoot is a multi-millionaire.

Now I am not disputing any of these claims.

What I find interesting is that Sun TV seems to be desperate to make some supporters sound like they are hypocrits

Now this is odd to me because I wasn't aware that the OCCUPY protest was an anti wealth protest.

To me I was under the impression that OCCUPY was anti right wing government and corporate policy.

Aswell Lightfoot is a folk artist singer/songwriter.And folk singers typically write about hardships and injustice(Lightfoots success I believe does not follow this trend)

Is this a weak attempt to drive a wedge between the oppresed and the oppresed voice for change?

WWWTT

[GostHacked]

Hey, thanks for the obviously well thought out response. You disagree that O’Reilly and/or Mansbridge treat their guest fairly?

Can't say for Mansbridge, but O'Reilly has been downright abusive to a few of his guests.

Not only abusive but a damn liar.

[cybercoma]

I don't think Occupy is anti rightwing. That's an odd statement. There are plenty of elements to Occupy that are rightwing. For instance, they're demanding that banks be subject to the rule of law and free market forces, rather than being bailed out by taxpayers' money.

[GostHacked]

I don't think Occupy is anti rightwing. That's an odd statement. There are plenty of elements to Occupy that are rightwing. For instance, they're demanding that banks be subject to the rule of law and free market forces, rather than being bailed out by taxpayers' money.

It seems no matter how much that is drilled into people they still don't quite get it. The system is broken, the game was rigged, and everyone is simply getting their last digs in before the whole thing crashes to the ground.

But here even this guy did not get it either.

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Radio/1447825254/ID=2168339578

Was a good show .. but lol at the speechwriter. He don't get it either.

[WWWTT]

I don't think Occupy is anti rightwing. That's an odd statement. There are plenty of elements to Occupy that are rightwing. For instance, they're demanding that banks be subject to the rule of law and free market forces, rather than being bailed out by taxpayers' money.

Actually if want to get technical,right wing and left are just broad generalizations of where someone situates themself politically.

WWWTT

[Guest Derek L]

Bill O'Reilly definately doesnt. He routinely browbeats his guests, screams at them, tells them to "SHUT UP", "SHOVE IT" etc. Hes also incredibly dishonest on a regular basis.

One of his highlights is his repeated lie that US troops commited warcrimes in Malmedy during the WW2, when in fact US soldiers were executed by a German Panzer division. After he was roasted for this lie, he tried to expunge the record by doctoring transcripts on the fox website, but google had cached the origonal version and he got roasted for that too.

Another beauty is him instroducing Paul Krugman as "Chief Bush Hater, Paul Krugman" when he had him on the show, and then lying through his teeth about what was in a book Krugman wrote.

This guy is a liar, and idiot and a complete spaz.

Even comparing him to Peter Mansbridge is ridiculous. I dont see Peter Mansbridge yelling and screaming at people, or blatantly lying through his teeth.

He’s been on the air for how long? How many conducted a year? I think his television rankings, and the calibre of guests he’s interviewed, many from a vastly opposing view, speaks different to your own biases…….How many episodes of the Factor have you watched? Did you see any of the Obama interviews?

[Guest Derek L]

Can't say for Mansbridge, but O'Reilly has been downright abusive to a few of his guests.

Not only abusive but a damn liar.

Perhaps, But if he was seen as generally abusive, wouldn’t you tend to think he’d have a problem getting guests? He’s interviewed Obama, has Jon Stewart on every so often, and many leftist, regular guests (Juan Williams, Dick Morris, Geraldo)……….

[bush_cheney2004]

Perhaps, But if he was seen as generally abusive, wouldn’t you tend to think he’d have a problem getting guests? He’s interviewed Obama, has Jon Stewart on every so often, and many leftist, regular guests (Juan Williams, Dick Morris, Geraldo)……….

...and it helps O'Reilly/Fox absolutely slaughter his cable competition.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/category/ratings

[Guest Derek L]

Where do you stand politically? It's odd. I find myself completely opposed to many of your opinions, then other more rare times I couldn't agree with you more. You're one of those posters that I'm never entirely sure where you going to stand on something until you post.

I’d best describe myself as being a Classic liberal or fiscally conservative and a social libertarian if you prefer…….To put a famous face on it, I’d say Churchill and/or Goldwater…….With a smattering of Ronald Reagan, Adam Smith and Louis St. Laurent

Better yet, a realist with a pragmatic approach.......

[jbg]

Aswell Lightfoot is a folk artist singer/songwriter.And folk singers typically write about hardships and injustice(Lightfoots success I believe does not follow this trend)

Lightofoot has his share of protest songs:

1. Black Day in July
   
2. Patriot's Dream
   
3. Ode to Big Blue
   
4. Summer Side of Life
   

[WWWTT]

Lightofoot has his share of protest songs:

1. Black Day in July
   
2. Patriot's Dream
   
3. Ode to Big Blue
   
4. Summer Side of Life
   

Thanks for pointing that out jbg.

I'm not a big Lightfoot follower but I'm somewhat aware of the folk material or theme.

The songs that I am aware of that I believe to be of a more commercial success don't fall in the protest category,but I could be wrong since admitingly I am not the closest Lightfoot fan.

WWWTT

[CPCFTW]

The dragon's den,Don Cherry,Kevin O'leary.

Do I have to prove these are right wingers?

Do I have to prove that they can be seen a regular basis on CBC.

But would say someone like David Suzuki be able to air some kind of program on Sun TV?

Ezra has even been a guest on CBC many times aswell before Sun TV!

WWWTT

People don't watch Dragon's Den or Hockey Night in Canada for news or to form their political opinions.

And you just said that there was a "weak" guy representing the left on a show you were watching on Sun TV.

Ridiculous argument. You're even more biased than the heavily left biased CBC.

[Shwa]

Ridiculous argument. You're even more biased than the heavily left biased CBC.

But I bet you take full advantage of the heavily left biased health care system don't you?

[CPCFTW]

But I bet you take full advantage of the heavily left biased health care system don't you?

That's your argument?

Yes I pay taxes and I've been to the doctor maybe twice in the last five years.

Why does it always come back to using health care for the left? As Canadian citizens we pay taxes and are entitled to the same services as the left, regardless of whether we agree with our tax dollars being spent to provide health care for everyone.

No I will not be burning the health card that socialists forced me to pay for.

The left's arguments are getting weaker by the day.

Edited November 18, 2011 by CPCFTW

[charter.rights]

That's your argument?

Yes I pay taxes and I've been to the doctor maybe twice in the last five years.

Why does it always come back to using health care for the left? As Canadian citizens we pay taxes and are entitled to the same services as the left, regardless of whether we agree with our tax dollars being spent to provide health care for everyone.

No I will not be burning the health card that socialists forced me to pay for.

The left's arguments are getting weaker by the day.

You could opt for private health care if you had any principles.

[CPCFTW]

You could opt for private health care if you had any principles.

Now I have to pay for health care twice to have principles?

Should I build my own roads to drive on too?

Weak. Come back with some better material guys. Even calling me an idiot, retard, the other repeated insults was better than this.

When are you guys gonna give back your mortgage loans and houses to the evil bankers? If you had any principles you'd give it all back and save up 300k under your mattresses!

Edited November 18, 2011 by CPCFTW

[charter.rights]

Now I have to pay for health care twice to have principles?

Should I build my own roads to drive on too?

Weak. Come back with some better material guys. Even calling me an idiot, retard, the other repeated insults was better than this.

When are you guys gonna give back your mortgage loans and houses to the evil bankers? If you had any principles you'd give it all back and save up 300k under your mattresses!

So you don't have principles.....Otherwise you would be ACTIVELY protesting your forced subscription to health care and other state funded social safety nets. But without principles you merely whine and complain about what YOU see as injustices and do nothing about it.

At least the Occupy protesters have principles.

[GostHacked]

Perhaps, But if he was seen as generally abusive, wouldn’t you tend to think he’d have a problem getting guests? He’s interviewed Obama, has Jon Stewart on every so often, and many leftist, regular guests (Juan Williams, Dick Morris, Geraldo)……….

That's his schtick. He essentially plays a right-wing nutbar character. Bill can't handle intelligent discussion at all so this is what he resorts to a good deal of the time. Calling people pinhead? Telling people to shut up?

We are talking about Bill 'Fuck it we're doing it live' O'Reilly. Sure this is off topic. But people eat up what ever Bill dishes out. I put Bill in the same category as Rush Limpballs. Ignorant right wing establishment talking head goons.

My apologies for kicking this thread off track some.

[jbg]

Thanks for pointing that out jbg.

I'm not a big Lightfoot follower but I'm somewhat aware of the folk material or theme.

The songs that I am aware of that I believe to be of a more commercial success don't fall in the protest category,but I could be wrong since admitingly I am not the closest Lightfoot fan.

WWWTT

Lightfoot happens to be about my favorite signer. Then again he's singing mostly in the Canadian language so maybe I don't understand what he's really saying.

[Shwa]

That's your argument?

Yes I pay taxes and I've been to the doctor maybe twice in the last five years.

Why does it always come back to using health care for the left? As Canadian citizens we pay taxes and are entitled to the same services as the left, regardless of whether we agree with our tax dollars being spent to provide health care for everyone.

No I will not be burning the health card that socialists forced me to pay for.

The left's arguments are getting weaker by the day.

That is all the argument required to address your particular brand of backwater simplism. It really is quite easy. The "right" constaintly whining all the time about the "left" and how they are taking us to ruin, while at the same time enjoying the endless supply of benefits the "left" has brought to this country like government medical insurance.

It is noted that you admit to enjoying the benefits of our 'leftist' health care when you had options, but were to weak minded to follow through on your lofty principles.