WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Go read the wealth of nations, its a bit dry and written in old english, but have at it. Japan wishes it was indonesia,indonesia is one of the leading asian economies in terms of gdp growth. Hell japans govt intervention has killed its gdp growth to the benefit of its neighbours, thank you for that example! And somehow with this comment you made its now OK to fabricate? Try going onto the "Dragons Den" with fabricated numbers and see how far you go buddy! Come back when you can provide a link to support the claims you have made! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 ...I believe unions are actually illegal in Japan! Why do you believe this? Only a modicum of critical thinking would make such an assertion quite suspect until proven. In fact, unionized labour is not illegal in Japan (and since "links" are your proof): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_unions_in_Japan Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
blueblood Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 And somehow with this comment you made its now OK to fabricate? Try going onto the "Dragons Den" with fabricated numbers and see how far you go buddy! Come back when you can provide a link to support the claims you have made! WWWTT Ho hum! My link My link Like I said, Japan wishes they were indonesia right now My link Lost decade anyone? Ho hum! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Ho hum! My link My link Like I said, Japan wishes they were indonesia right now My link Lost decade anyone? Ho hum! Yep just as I thought more cherry picking! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 Why do you believe this? Only a modicum of critical thinking would make such an assertion quite suspect until proven. In fact, unionized labour is not illegal in Japan (and since "links" are your proof): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_unions_in_Japan Actually after you provided the link I no longer believe this. Thank you for the info! Can't say the same for blueblood however. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Read the Wealth of Nations. Smith is probably rolling over in his grave right now. Quote
blueblood Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Read the Wealth of Nations. Smith is probably rolling over in his grave right now. Indeed, he didn't envision a gov't that large spending like that and debt everywhere. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Actually after you provided the link I no longer believe this. Thank you for the info! Can't say the same for blueblood however. WWWTT So Indonesia isn't forecast to grow at over 6% while Japan only sees 2% or less? Even when you get shown figures of that. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Indeed, he didn't envision a gov't that large spending like that and debt everywhere. He also probably didn't envision the kind of multinational oligopoly that exists today or the kind of federal subsidies given to the financial sector and agriculture, just to name two. Edited October 29, 2011 by cybercoma Quote
blueblood Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 He also probably didn't envision the kind of multinational oligopoly that exists today or the kind of federal subsidies given to the financial sector and agriculture, just to name two. That's what happens when gov't gets too big... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 ...or when the government fails to regulate industry properly because politicians are more concerned about where their financing is gonig to come from. Quote
blueblood Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 ...or when the government fails to regulate industry properly because politicians are more concerned about where their financing is gonig to come from. Or govt got so big and had so much influence for sale to those contributors because of picking winners and losers through onerous regulations. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jacee Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Oh just like black people in the south during Jim Crow were free to go to a black only restaurant/laundromat/water fountains/etc. You do know they had an entire movement so that a race of people were free to work/eat/do laundry/etc. wherever they wanted to. Who's forcing anybody indeed... Um ... pretty out to lunch bb ... in fact ya ... totally. Nobody's keeping anybody out. We have a right to bargain collectively. Quote
blueblood Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Um ... pretty out to lunch bb ... in fact ya ... totally. Nobody's keeping anybody out. We have a right to bargain collectively. Oh really, if I wanted to become a teacher I can't bargain for myself, have paycheck deductions, and have to join a union. What about the person who wants to be a teacher but doesn't want to join a union, what about their freedoms? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jacee Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Or govt got so big and had so much influence for sale to those contributors because of picking winners and losers through onerous regulations. ... that would be the despised "red tape" ... and it favours some ... contributors. Mhm ... could do with a lot less of that. Quote
jacee Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Oh really, if I wanted to become a teacher I can't bargain for myself, have paycheck deductions, and have to join a union. What about the person who wants to be a teacher but doesn't want to join a union, what about their freedoms? They're free to work in private schools and bargain for themselves. It's a choice. Quote
blueblood Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 They're free to work in private schools and bargain for themselves. It's a choice. Like I said black people in the old south were free to go to their own black schools, restaurants, etc. If they wanted those things that was their choice. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
MiddleClassCentrist Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Oh really, if I wanted to become a teacher I can't bargain for myself, have paycheck deductions, and have to join a union. What about the person who wants to be a teacher but doesn't want to join a union, what about their freedoms? Private School. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
blueblood Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Private School. Hurray for Jim crow!!! Should we go back to 1950s Alabama while we're at it? Edited October 30, 2011 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
cybercoma Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Like I said black people in the old south were free to go to their own black schools, restaurants, etc. If they wanted those things that was their choice. Black people in the South weren't free to go to their black schools; black people in the South were legislated to go to their black schools. It wasn't a choice. Jim Crow laws forced racism on business owners and customers alike. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Oh and comparing union laws to the Jim Crow South is pretty damn offensive. Edited October 30, 2011 by cybercoma Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 What a bad analogy. You can choose your race, but you can choose between working in private or public schools. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
blueblood Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) Oh and comparing union laws to the Jim Crow South is pretty damn offensive. Why, because it's accurate? You want to work in a public school, you either join the union or no employment in the public school. Just like being black in the Jim crow south, you either go to your black only places or you stay home. Edited October 30, 2011 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 What a bad analogy. You can choose your race, but you can choose between working in private or public schools. Why is it a bad analogy, shouldn't somebody be able to teach in whatever school they like and not be forced to join something they don't believe in? It's why religious beliefs are right up there in the human rights thing with race, or do you think race has priority? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
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