OCCUPY

[Mr.Canada]

You are projecting your own sense of entitlement. That is not what the Occupy Movement is about, at all.

It is about restoring democracy and removing the power the the aristocracy now in place. Getting rid of the government - corporation corruption and putting power to make decisions concerning the country back into the hands of the 99%.

So you're talking about anarchy. No government. Which will mean, no taxes, no social programs, no welfare, no law, no fire dept. or ambulances. Sounds great.

How did you come to this evaluation Mr.Canada?

When my parents came to Canada in 1959 from Sao Miguel Azores Portugaul they didn't have a freekin nickel!

What they did have was a work hard ethic,dedication and some witts!

My parents with what little they had made a fantastic contribution,helped build this country(literally) and were rewarded handsomeley for their efforts.

But times have seriously changed.I have twice the work ethic they had and I'm not seeing the results they did.

The cost of living is way way high!

Gas,heat,cable,phone,insurance,hydro,taxes(fedral,provincial,municipal,sales,capital gains etc etc)food,transportation,cell phone,banking fees,etc etc etc.

Everyone responsible for supplying the above services-except the government is racking up record profits!Why!?!?

Why am I freekin bustin my freekin ass off so that these corporations can see record profits!?!?!Why man why?!?!?!

I am fortunate enough because I have references to somewhat gage how living standards have dropped in this country over the last several decades.

Just because you can't find/use/recognize/care about how the standard of living has dropped in Canada doesn't mean its not happening.

And another thing if you don't want to help the people trying to improve this country then get out of the way buddy and let those who care about the future of Canada do something constructive!

WWWTT

You have an inflated sense of self I think. How do you know you're working twice as hard? I seriously doubt this. Inflation is a fact of life. Corporations are the ones who paid billions of dollars to build the technological infrastructure we now enjoy and you're using right now. You don't feel they should be paid for their efforts?

Nothing is going to change. You people are very naive if you think it will. It's very simple. Create something great and you'll become rich. Toe the party line and be unoriginal and you'll make a normal living. Very simple.

[Shwa]

So you're talking about anarchy. No government. Which will mean, no taxes, no social programs, no welfare, no law, no fire dept. or ambulances. Sounds great

Facepalm of the day!

[charter.rights]

So you're talking about anarchy. No government. Which will mean, no taxes, no social programs, no welfare, no law, no fire dept. or ambulances. Sounds great.

More of your straw man fallacy arguments.

Go look up the meaning of "anarchy" and democracy. You are obviously confused in the difference.

You have an inflated sense of self I think. How do you know you're working twice as hard? I seriously doubt this. Inflation is a fact of life. Corporations are the ones who paid billions of dollars to build the technological infrastructure we now enjoy and you're using right now. You don't feel they should be paid for their efforts?

Ad hominem fallacy argument not worth responding to.

Nothing is going to change. You people are very naive if you think it will. It's very simple. Create something great and you'll become rich. Toe the party line and be unoriginal and you'll make a normal living. Very simple.

Genetic fallacy argument. You are obviously a very lost soul.

Edited November 20, 2011 by charter.rights

[cybercoma]

These protesters think they are owed something by the most wealthy of society.

The protesters think they're owed something?

It wasn't the protesters that were bailed out.

[GostHacked]

The protesters think they're owed something?

It wasn't the protesters that were bailed out.

I was wondering why there was not as many hate filled posts in the last while. I wonder if his vacation was relaxing.

[BorderLord]

It seems axiomatic that a just society should not operate in a fashion that concentrates the vast amount of wealth with a small fraction of the population. That is the case in Canada, and is becoming more so every year. The get a job rant from the right ignores the fact that there are not jobs available for many, even a growing number of college graduates, and even if there were there would be little change in wealth distribution.

From1999 to 2005, the wealth of the top 20% increased by 43%. The wealth of the bottom 20% declined by 70%. (www.progressive-economics.ca/2006/12/07/ wealth-distribution-in-canada/). Is that the kind of country we want Canada to be?

[BorderLord]

Haha I have to admit that's a good one.

I see I struck a cord... don't worry it's not that hard to uncover first year philosophy students.

It is your loss that you have no compassion for others. What happened to make you so bitter and selfish?

[BorderLord]

More of your straw man fallacy arguments.

Go look up the meaning of "anarchy" and democracy. You are obviously confused in the difference.

Ad hominem fallacy argument not worth responding to.

Genetic fallacy argument. You are obviously a very lost soul.

the hedge funds created collateral backed securities and made billions, one of many examples that refute the argument that wealth is earned by creating good things and working hard.

[WWWTT]

You have an inflated sense of self I think. How do you know you're working twice as hard? I seriously doubt this. Inflation is a fact of life. Corporations are the ones who paid billions of dollars to build the technological infrastructure we now enjoy and you're using right now. You don't feel they should be paid for their efforts?

Nothing is going to change. You people are very naive if you think it will. It's very simple. Create something great and you'll become rich. Toe the party line and be unoriginal and you'll make a normal living. Very simple.

I have an inflated sence of self?And you claim that you have doubts about what I am telling you to be true?And your telling me about inflation?Your telling me that subsidized(by the taxpayer) corporations(government grants) created car/home insurance and the food I need to eat and fuels so I have to now pay a higher price for them,but somehow these same corporations are getting corporate tax cuts(thanks lib. and con.)and making record sky freekin high profits they deserve it?

Do you actually read what I am writing?Do you listen to what people are saying?Actually do you live in this world?Or does mommy and daddy still give you an allowance?

Why do you think it is wrong for people to try and improve their life and the country they live in?Why man why!?!?

WWWTT

[CPCFTW]

I have an inflated sence of self?And you claim that you have doubts about what I am telling you to be true?And your telling me about inflation?Your telling me that subsidized(by the taxpayer) corporations(government grants) created car/home insurance and the food I need to eat and fuels so I have to now pay a higher price for them,but somehow these same corporations are getting corporate tax cuts(thanks lib. and con.)and making record sky freekin high profits they deserve it?

Do you actually read what I am writing?Do you listen to what people are saying?Actually do you live in this world?Or does mommy and daddy still give you an allowance?

Why do you think it is wrong for people to try and improve their life and the country they live in?Why man why!?!?

WWWTT

You have an inflated sense of self because you claim to work twice as hard as your parents and therefore the government should seize the wealth of others to pay you some arbitrary amount that you think you're worth.

Whining that your home and car insurance is too expensive...

Sell your car and home and buy some shares of corporations and you'll get some of those profits too. You chose to buy a home and car instead. Too bad.

[WWWTT]

You have an inflated sense of self because you claim to work twice as hard as your parents

Sell your car and home and buy some shares of corporations and you'll get some of those profits too. You chose to buy a home and car instead. Too bad.

I have nothing to prove to you buddy!

My parents are very proud of their very hard working son!

And as far as selling my vehicles and structures to invest into the stock market has got to be the most worst idea I have ever heard here!

I already have money in the market through locked in RRSP.And I would love to take it out the hands of the freekin lazy ass good for nothing useless 1% and do some real investment for myself!

WWWTT

[blueblood]

I have nothing to prove to you buddy!

My parents are very proud of their very hard working son!

And as far as selling my vehicles and structures to invest into the stock market has got to be the most worst idea I have ever heard here!

I already have money in the market through locked in RRSP.And I would love to take it out the hands of the freekin lazy ass good for nothing useless 1% and do some real investment for myself!

WWWTT

If we were lazy, we would not be in the 1%. It's not all vacations and caviar...

[WWWTT]

If we were lazy, we would not be in the 1%. It's not all vacations and caviar...

Your not part of the 1%,never have bein and never will be!

You have never said anything on this thread that sounds anything remotely in the least bit convincing.

Just the fact that you are here is prof bonifica that you are not.

Why even make such a claim when you know very well you can never prove it!

WWWTT

[blueblood]

Your not part of the 1%,never have bein and never will be!

You have never said anything on this thread that sounds anything remotely in the least bit convincing.

Just the fact that you are here is prof bonifica that you are not.

Why even make such a claim when you know very well you can never prove it!

WWWTT

According to gross yearly income, I am, and it's not that hard of a nut to crack.

Whether you believe it or not is up to you.

Why would you make a claim that I'm not in the 1% when you can't prove it.

[WWWTT]

According to gross yearly income, I am, and it's not that hard of a nut to crack.

Whether you believe it or not is up to you.

Why would you make a claim that I'm not in the 1% when you can't prove it.

Actually many things you have written clearly prove you are not in the 1%.

Therefore it would be impossible for you to prove it unless you were able to retract many of the things you have written.

WWWTT

[blueblood]

Actually many things you have written clearly prove you are not in the 1%.

Therefore it would be impossible for you to prove it unless you were able to retract many of the things you have written.

WWWTT

Yes, me explaining that our making money and having it in the bank, stocks, investments, spending helps everyone over and over and over again clearly prove I'm not in the 1%.

If a broad statement of what I say is "proof" you win the prize.

[WWWTT]

Yes, me explaining that our making money and having it in the bank, stocks, investments, spending helps everyone over and over and over again clearly prove I'm not in the 1%.

If a broad statement of what I say is "proof" you win the prize.

Actually there is no prize.

You sound just as unconvincing now as you did before.

WWWTT

[CPCFTW]

The proof that you aren't in the 1% is because you never said you eat babies and hate humanity.

[grogy]

Actually many things you have written clearly prove you are not in the 1%.

Therefore it would be impossible for you to prove it unless you were able to retract many of the things you have written.

WWWTT

What is the color of the sky in your world?

[PIK]

This movemnet has changed into the movement of the lazy. Alot of the original activists have moved on and it is just the lazy ass left, we are now seeing the fruits of the trudeau years coming home to roost.

[PIK]

Alberta tim hortons, 21.50/hr plus living expenses. 1st year rookie electrition 85g's/yr. And all the prospects out east in the next little while, if these people are serious about getting a job, go back to school and get a trade and the world is yours.

[g_bambino]

it is just the lazy ass left, we are now seeing the fruits of the trudeau years coming home to roost.

Oh, come on. Spoiled twenty- and thirty-somethings are the result of a complex mix of factors and the problem is not Canada's alone. It's ridiculous to blame their naive and narcissistic outlook on Trudeau.

[cybercoma]

20 and 30 year olds are spoiled? Reality check. Twenty and thirty year olds just want an opportunity to make a living and support their families. Too bad the baby boomers are from a generation where jobs were just handed to them on a silver platter and they can't seem to understand why this new generation doesn't just quit being "lazy" and get a job. Newsflash. The job market is not what it was 30 years ago. Things cost more than they did 30 years ago. One thing is the same though. Wages.

[g_bambino]

20 and 30 year olds are spoiled?

A not insignificant number are.

The job market is not what it was 30 years ago. Things cost more than they did 30 years ago. One thing is the same though. Wages.

And yet, anyone in the Occupy group in Canada who ever tried to articulate such a point was not only unable to ever publicly expand on it - an actual remedy, perhaps? - but was long ago totally choked out by the ever enlarging morass of fringe perma-protesters who accreted themselves and their random, disparate grievances onto the original movement - facilitated by its purposefully leaderless structure - like barnacles to the hull of a ship.

[cybercoma]

I've been following many Occupy feeds on Twitter since the beginning. I can tell you unequivocally that this never happened. The MSM has portrayed Occupy in that light, probably as a way to discredit the movement. There are way too many people that are dumb enough to believe that if you discredit the individuals you discredit the message. The message has always been the same.