Occupy Wall Street Sept 17 2011

[Guest Derek L]

Well, this just in:

"Occupy Vancouver indeed"

Well their numbers went from 4000 to 400 in one day.......These "99%ers" don't even make-up .0001% of BC's population

Edited October 17, 2011 by Derek L

[Bonam]

Well, this just in:

"Occupy Vancouver indeed"

Well their numbers went from 4000 to 400 in one day.......These "99%ers" don't even make-up .0001% of BC's population

A little rain or cold tends to send most of these for-fun-protestors home. Just goes to show, whatever it is that they are protesting, is obviously less harmful than a little light Vancouver rain and mildly chilly weather.

[Guest Derek L]

A little rain or cold tends to send most of these for-fun-protestors home. Just goes to show, whatever it is that they are protesting, is obviously less harmful than a little light Vancouver rain and mildly chilly weather.

Hasn’t rained since last week……….Took the dog for a walk this morning around Burnaby lake wearing shorts and a sweatshirt………If this is the case, what will they do when it really does start to rain?

[Bonam]

Hasn’t rained since last week……….Took the dog for a walk this morning around Burnaby lake wearing shorts and a sweatshirt………If this is the case, what will they do when it really does start to rain?

A few dozen hardcore "occupiers" will remain, the rest will go home.

[Moonlight Graham]

From today's Ottawa Citizen:

Over the last 30 years, the income gap between the top 1 per cent (or more accurately, the top 0.1 per cent) and the rest of us has increased substantially. Furthermore, this inequality is growing faster in Canada than it is in most other countries, including the United States. The Conference Board of Canada has reported that Canada has fallen to 12th out of 17 countries in its peer group when it comes to income inequality. Between 1980 and 2005, before tax earnings increased by 16 per cent for the top 20 per cent, but fell by over 20 per cent for the bottom 20 per cent.

Justice!

Edited October 17, 2011 by Moonlight Graham

[Guest Derek L]

A few dozen hardcore "occupiers" will remain, the rest will go home.

Well it's calling for sun and cloud through the week, but the first day it rains, I'll drive down West Georgia in the Escalade and honk in a show of support for the "revolution"......maybe even buy a jug of Tim's coffee for them

[Guest Derek L]

A few dozen hardcore "occupiers" will remain, the rest will go home.

Imagine if it rains on Halloween……..The cold and rain doesn’t deter children from going out for their cause

[jacee]

Ahh, the Pigs are to blame……

If the police try to provoke ...

..I see now……..If you watch the video, he seems to be getting a warm response from the crowd…..

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Occupy Vancouver

Check out the Vancouver website.........another gem of a member

That talk sounds like a communist insurrection...........Black Panthers 2.0?

Oooooooo ..... the scary commies!

Edited October 17, 2011 by jacee

[bush_cheney2004]

From today's Ottawa Citizen:

Wow..."including the United States". Damn, then it must be really really serious!

[cybercoma]

And it will remain so until the 40% get off their butt and vote.

Why? So they can pick someone that they don't want in office? None of the choices are particularly compelling. Look at Ontario's election: McGuinty or Hudak? Is it any wonder less than 50% showed up?

[cybercoma]

No they aren't, the tea party movement in the US is a testament to that. As a result, the deficit, national debt, and gov't spending are under the microscope.

Keep slashing social programs and keep the finance industry deregulated.... The Tea Party would destroy America.

[cybercoma]

That talk sounds like a communist insurrection...........Black Panthers 2.0?

IF Communist Insurrection means equal access to democracy for everyone regardless of their political wealth, then yes. However, these people want the political system taken out of the hands of Wall Street and corporations. They want it to be a vehicle for everyone's interests, not just the interests of the few. I've seen very few people invoking the idea of full-fledged Communism. When Zizek spoke to the GA in NY, he very clearly articulated that Communism had failed. It certainly did. We're talking about a more fair system for people, regardless of their wealth. Marx would crap on this system just as much as he would crap on the Socialist compromises to Communism.

[jacee]

Why? So they can pick someone that they don't want in office? None of the choices are particularly compelling. Look at Ontario's election: McGuinty or Hudak? Is it any wonder less than 50% showed up?

Heard on tv

"Tim Hudak ... who reminded women of their first husband."

[bush_cheney2004]

IF Communist Insurrection means equal access to democracy for everyone regardless of their political wealth, then yes.....

So now you are advocating a "communist insurrection"? Keep that at home please (Canada)....America doesn't need that failed idea. Do it yourself....

[capricorn]

Why? So they can pick someone that they don't want in office?

Perhaps if they bothered to vote, the one they don't want in office wouldn't come out on top.

None of the choices are particularly compelling.

Is that a problem with the electoral system? IMO the root problem is that politics fails to attract a larger number of quality hopefuls.

[blueblood]

Keep slashing social programs and keep the finance industry deregulated.... The Tea Party would destroy America.

America had little if any social programs and a deregulated finance industry in the late 1800s and was one of the fastest growing and one of the most prosperous country on earth. America got along fine then, why not now?

[jacee]

For one who is overjoyed by the participation of our youth in protests, I'd think you would be encouraging them to vote. I suppose not since you don't have faith in our electoral system. I guess protesting is all that's left.

Except that you want government (politicians) to have more control over the wealthy and powerful (finance). Interesting logic.

I want us (collectively, including our gov representatives) to have control over our affairs so our reps are accountable to us, not to the wealthy and powerful.

Voting is fine, but it's not a solution to the sway of the wealthy and powerful. It's never changed that yet, has it?

Our responsibility to make politicians honest and accountable and responsive to the needs of all Canadians doesn't begin and end with elections.

Maybe the youth want to improve the corrupted system so it becomes something they are willing to participate in by voting.

[Sir Bandelot]

This protest continues gaining credibility.

Homeowner taps 'Occupy' protest to avoid foreclosure

[capricorn]

This protest continues gaining credibility.

Bay Street protest fizzles.

[GostHacked]

This protest continues gaining credibility.

Homeowner taps 'Occupy' protest to avoid foreclosure

This line stands out from that article.

At the same time, Gudiel was temporarily earning less in her job with the California Economic Development Department after being furloughed because of the state budget crisis.

There is irony in this somewhere.

[Guest Derek L]

Bay Street protest fizzles.

With the article stating the Toronto 99%ers now total around 20, what percentage of Ontario’s population is that? Or even Toronto’s? We are the 99% indeed………Maybe their math skills are what’s holding them back?

[cybercoma]

Perhaps if they bothered to vote, the one they don't want in office wouldn't come out on top.

The point is many people don't bother to vote because they don't like any of the choices.

[cybercoma]

America had little if any social programs and a deregulated finance industry in the late 1800s and was one of the fastest growing and one of the most prosperous country on earth. America got along fine then, why not now?

If I have to tell you the difference between America and industry in the 19th century versus the 21st century, then there's really no point in having any sort of discussion.

[bush_cheney2004]

The point is many people don't bother to vote because they don't like any of the choices.

Then they have made the choice not to vote. Then they will be the ones to complain the loudest.

[capricorn]

The point is many people don't bother to vote because they don't like any of the choices.

Then they can effect change from within by

1. Joining a riding association to be part of decision making at the riding level.

2. Running as a candidate in the party of their choice.

3. Buying a party membership to vote the party leader. The NDP and the Liberals will soon be voting for a new federal leader. This is a great opportunity for their supporters to get involved.

Another option is a spoiled ballot. I personally don't advocate this but at least their discontent is represented in the final vote tally.

Sadly too many, especially the under 25 age group, can't be bothered. They prefer to stay glued to the tube and their ipads/laptops.