punked Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 They will learn pretty quickly on their own The Conservatives hate French Canada so much they are prying for a new Bloc. It is sad how much the Conservative posters on this form want to return a time when Canada was divided. Poor you guys the boogy man is gone how will raise money? Quote
Boges Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Wow 40 MP's Good job tough guy. That's like what a 1 or 2 seat improvement on the '08 election. The NDP is irrelevant Federally in most of the country. Edited July 28, 2011 by Boges Quote
Guest Peeves Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 Nycole Turmel, from what I have read, is a former supporter of the BQ and Quebec Solidaire. The Bloc are a party most of you know, but for those of you who don't know QS, its a provincial party here in Quebec that is staunch separatist and on the very left of the political spectrum. It is headed by Amir Khadr, the one who marched in front of mom and pop shoe store in Montreal's Plateau area because some of their brands of shoes were made in Israel. "The 68-year-old was part of the orange wave that swept across Quebec in the May election. She defeated a five-term incumbent in Hull-Aylmer, which had gone to the Liberals since 1914, despite criticism she supported the Bloc Québécois in 2006 and Quebec Solidaire in 2008." http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/07/26/who-is-nycole-turmel-potential-ndp-interim-leader/ She publicly distanced herself from such claims by Liberals when running for election on the NDP ticket. Quote
Scotty Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) yah ok my sister works as blah blah over there and blah blah blah made up story. I get it. Yes they went out of their way to say they don't support separatism stop trying to rewrite history with a conservative spin is getting old and tired honestly. You and the NDP are soft on separatism. We get it. You always have been. You might not be able to be honest about it in the rest of Canada, but you won't say a single thing against separatists in Quebec for fear of angering Quebec nationalists. Edited July 28, 2011 by Scotty Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
punked Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 Wow 40 MP's Good job tough guy. That's like what a 1 or 2 seat improvement on the '08 election. The NDP is irrelevant Federally in most of the country. I get it dismiss the largest opposition party of the last 50-100 years because "only" 40% of their Caucus is from outside Quebec. Well welcome to our system Quebec has 75 seats and Ontario 106. If the NDP got more outside Quebec we would have PM now. Pretty simple. Quote
bloodyminded Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 You and the NDP are soft on separatism. We get it. You always have been. You might not be able to be honest about it in the rest of Canada, but you won't say a single thing against separatists in Quebec for fear of angering Quebec nationalists. Then Harper with his "Quebec nation" bit must be "soft on separatism" as well. As are any who defend this, as I suspect you're about to do. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Boges Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 I get it dismiss the largest opposition party of the last 50-100 years because "only" 40% of their Caucus is from outside Quebec. Well welcome to our system Quebec has 75 seats and Ontario 106. If the NDP got more outside Quebec we would have PM now. Pretty simple. In what part of the country? BTW once the ridings are re-aligned Ontario, Alberta and BC will have more seats. Quebec. . . the same. LOL Lower Canada Quote
bloodyminded Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 In what part of the country? BTW once the ridings are re-aligned Ontario, Alberta and BC will have more seats. Quebec. . . the same. LOL Lower Canada Are you under the delusion that there is one single thing that is Forever...and it is majority Conservative rule? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
punked Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 In what part of the country? BTW once the ridings are re-aligned Ontario, Alberta and BC will have more seats. Quebec. . . the same. LOL Lower Canada Not sure what your point it. I have always been for representation by population. Quote
wyly Posted July 28, 2011 Report Posted July 28, 2011 One of my biggest pet peeves about this forum. If you make a typo, notice it after you hit submit and go back to edit it, the edit tag shows up. everyone here makes typos and spelling and grammatical errors, no biggie...anyone who makes an issue of it is an arsehole delux... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Scotty Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Then Harper with his "Quebec nation" bit must be "soft on separatism" as well. As are any who defend this, as I suspect you're about to do. Harper, Mr. Practicality, basically caved to Quebec, willing to whore himself for the Quebec vote. I've said as much before. He lavished them with everything he could think of and they turned around and gave him a knee in the groin. To his credit, he seems to have learned how fickle is the bought vote in Quebec and has stopped making much effort. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Not sure what your point it. I have always been for representation by population. Canada's growth isn't coming from Quebec. It's the West and Ontario that fuels Ontario's growth in numbers. Quote
capricorn Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 To his credit, he seems to have learned how fickle is the bought vote in Quebec and has stopped making much effort. Since the Conservative Party has so few seats in Quebec, defending federalism and advancing the federalist cause inside Quebec will be one of the NDP's major challenges. I could see both parties cooperating on this file. This will create an interesting dynamic in the next 4-5 years. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
August1991 Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Nycole Turmel, from what I have read, is a former supporter of the BQ and Quebec Solidaire.... "The 68-year-old was part of the orange wave that swept across Quebec in the May election." OMG, she's worse.She's an Orangist. ---- The federal NDP caucus will in all likelihood split on regional/linguistic lines at some point in the future. (I just don't see fellow MPs sitting with Vegas, for example, in the future.) More broadly however, Leftists always argue with each other since Leftists never get along. The NDP will split because that's what the Left does. The irony is that Leftists want a single entity "The State" to limit private choice and yet Leftists want the freedom to choose, to keep their options open. One of my biggest pet peeves about this forum. If you make a typo, notice it after you hit submit and go back to edit it, the edit tag shows up.Agreed. As a result, I make a point of (almost) always clicking twice on my posts so that my posts show the edit line. Edited July 29, 2011 by August1991 Quote
Vineon Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Harper, Mr. Practicality, basically caved to Quebec, willing to whore himself for the Quebec vote. I've said as much before. He lavished them with everything he could think of and they turned around and gave him a knee in the groin. To his credit, he seems to have learned how fickle is the bought vote in Quebec and has stopped making much effort. And "everything he could think of" was apparently a recognition of nationhood (under conditions that Qc can only be a nation within a united Canada, as if that made any sort of sense) that pulls no weight politically and a gift of a "seat" for Québec at the UNESCO, which it cannot use to say or do anything. It was kind of a given that the Québécois wouldn't sell for so cheap. Edited July 29, 2011 by Vineon Quote
BubberMiley Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I for one welcome the NPD's new sovereigntist leader! I bet you're just disappointed you can't make fun of the fact that Jack (fighting bravely) Layton has cancer anymore. Well, you can and probably will, but it no longer serves a political purpose. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I bet you're just disappointed you can't make fun of the fact that Jack (fighting bravely) Layton has cancer anymore. Well, you can and probably will, but it no longer serves a political purpose. The fact he made his announcement on a monday, the slowest news day wasn't lost on me. It was picked for the maximum exposure. Jack, fighting (bravely) the the very end! Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
BubberMiley Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 The fact he made his announcement on a monday, the slowest news day wasn't lost on me. Nothing gets past you. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Tilter Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I bet you're just disappointed you can't make fun of the fact that Jack (fighting bravely) Layton has cancer anymore. Well, you can and probably will, but it no longer serves a political purpose. Not to put Jack Layton down--- but--- EVERYONE who has it fights cancer bravely. The wrong part of this is that Jack Layton and hundreds of thousands other have cancer. If the people we donate money to, the ones who are supposedly are fighting cancer, would use 90% of tehe money to research cancer cures rather than 90% going to pay the executives of these organizations top corporate salaries, they might find a cure or a prevention. Their excuse is that they have to hire Top Execs to enable them to garner the billions they get---to pay---- the executives of these organizations top corporate salaries Dijja ever notice how little progress is being made to cure HIV since the "HIV cocktail" (2,000 bux a month/patient going to the Pharm industry)??? Wonder why? Quote
bloodyminded Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Not to put Jack Layton down--- but--- EVERYONE who has it fights cancer bravely. Certainly, you're right. Bubber's point was that M. Dancer has long mocked Layton and his cancer, and for a time was continually adding "(fighting bravely)" in parentheses to underline how hilarious it all is. Bubber was simply quoting him. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 The Conservatives hate French Canada so much they are prying for a new Bloc. It is sad how much the Conservative posters on this form want to return a time when Canada was divided. Poor you guys the boogy man is gone how will raise money? I'm not a Conservative poster and I'm not in favor of a divided Canada. I do submit that the Bloc has a new name; New Democratic Pary of Canada. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 everyone here makes typos and spelling and grammatical errors, no biggie...anyone who makes an issue of it is an arsehole delux... Yes, when you spell it "harbour" or "defence" or "labour". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Oleg Bach Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 The NDP are the proverbial slippery slope - They struggle to crawl up the ice covered hill only to reach the peak..then nature took it's course and gravity is now sucking them down the other side of another slippery slope - Mark my words in a short time we will have a one party system. Quote
BubberMiley Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) I do submit that the Bloc has a new name; New Democratic Pary of Canada. Still struggling with the semi-colons, eh? I believe a true "arsehole deluxe" is someone who takes issue with other people's grammar in grammatically incorrect sentences. Edited July 30, 2011 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Oleg Bach Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Still struggling with the semi-colons, eh? First clue was when the newly elected kid from Quebec annoucned proudly that he was a seperatist...and a NDP member of parliment - go figure - what the hell were the NDP thinking - so desperate to achieve the status of the offical oppostion that they not only slep with the devil but were also sodomized by him. All for the sake of power that is now as fleeting as a sun shower on a windy day. Quote
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