William Ashley Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Due to pull out dec 31st... the US is negotiating to extend the mission. I think this is something that has gotten no media attention, yet most people probably just have this image of a US occupied Iraq one so vaugue that they don't even realize Iraq is still occupied. http://gulftoday.ae/portal/4c6efd3f-a373-444b-9c33-ee779de170b8.aspx Quote I was here.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 So are Germany, Japan, and South Korea. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Sir Bandelot Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Clearly there is still a threat there, and the situation is not resolved. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Um .. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Seemed like a no brainer to me. As the US created the mess that is Iraq. Mass suicide bombers,... but whatever, Iraq and it's people are better off since the invasion right?? AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ..... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Um .. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Seemed like a no brainer to me. As the US created the mess that is Iraq. Mass suicide bombers,... but whatever, Iraq and it's people are better off since the invasion right?? AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ..... Whew...and here I thought it was Saddam. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) So are Germany, Japan, and South Korea. Didn't America's occupation of Germany end with it's reunification in 1990 and in 1951 in Japan? And I'm pretty sure S. Korea is/was an ally not an occupied enemy. Maybe you're just feeling a little more full of yourself today than usual. Edited July 9, 2011 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Didn't America's occupation of Germany end with it's reunification in 1990 and in 1951 in Japan? Sure...just like the "reunification" in Iraq. And I'm pretty sure S. Korea is/was an ally not an occupied enemy. Some South Koreans sure don't feel that way. http://www.petitiononline.com/60korea/petition.html Maybe you're just feeling a little more full of yourself today than usual. Yes...it's more fun than cleaning fish. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted July 9, 2011 Report Posted July 9, 2011 Sure...just like the "reunification" in Iraq. Some South Koreans sure don't feel that way. http://www.petitiononline.com/60korea/petition.html Yes...it's more fun than cleaning fish. Cleaning fishis like effective warfare - You put on a brave face - scale - gut and wash up. Never enjoyable and leaves a stink on the hands that lingers. The US has a great on going corporate investment in Iraq - you just can't walk away from a buisness you built up and leave the place to the natives...that would defeat the whole purpose of the invasion...Kind of like Viking Danes invading old Britan...If you stay long enough you will own the place. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 So are Germany, Japan, and South Korea. Build up Germany - hence the EU...Build up Japan....China noticed and followed suit - What's with America that has this superfical a white Christain guilt that who ever they conquer - they later suppor until after time they have rebuilt an enemy that returns later for revenge - You guys are not smart "Mr..Gorbachoff - tear down that wall" You idiots - you put the head back on the dragon after slaying the monster...what the heck - Germany should have been punished for eternity. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Build up Germany - hence the EU...Build up Japan....China noticed and followed suit - What's with America that has this superfical a white Christain guilt that who ever they conquer - they later suppor until after time they have rebuilt an enemy that returns later for revenge... That's just how we roll 'bro....bomb 'em and rebuild...rinse and repeat. The American military is very good at breaking things and killing people...makes getting a McDonald's and Coca-Cola franchise seem like a blessing in comparison. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 That's just how we roll 'bro....bomb 'em and rebuild...rinse and repeat. The American military is very good at breaking things and killing people...makes getting a McDonald's and Coca-Cola franchise seem like a blessing in comparison. Why are you so damned humorous? boom...rebuild ,,,,,,boom rebuild....we have a Tim Hortons in Afghanistan - they are one of the most self centred corporates that I know - They will falsify employment records so when they fire you and hire some cheap immigrant lawyer you can not sue them for wrongful dismisal...not one employment record in their files says anything good about any manager.....BUT they are in AFGANISTAN comforting the troops...such nice guys.....bit off track here.....so....just don't rebuild me and we will get along fine. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Due to pull out dec 31st... the US is negotiating to extend the mission. I think this is something that has gotten no media attention, yet most people probably just have this image of a US occupied Iraq one so vaugue that they don't even realize Iraq is still occupied. http://gulftoday.ae/portal/4c6efd3f-a373-444b-9c33-ee779de170b8.aspx How come Canada does not want to stay in Afghanistan? What is the difference between us and the Americans? Maybe some people get a job in a slaughter house and stay their for a life time after getting used to the smell...maybe Canadians don't like the smell? Quote
Topaz Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 How come Canada does not want to stay in Afghanistan? What is the difference between us and the Americans? Maybe some people get a job in a slaughter house and stay their for a life time after getting used to the smell...maybe Canadians don't like the smell? Why is Canada not staying? Think of it this way. Most the countries in the Middle-East is rich with OIL, Under Harper, its NOT in Canada's interest to stay there becasue we have Alberta's oil. Beside, we have to have the war equipment to fight and we can't afford to do both right now. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Whew...and here I thought it was Saddam. Nope. There was no mess in Iraq under Saddam and Kuwait was as thrilled to have Iraq under Saddam as a neighbor as the U.S. is thankful to have Canada to the north. And of course we are damned if we leave and damned if we stay and damned if we supported Saddam and damned if we supported sanctions against Saddam's Iraq and damned if we don't give a damn about such nations and do nothing. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Nope. There was no mess in Iraq under Saddam and Kuwait was as thrilled to have Iraq under Saddam as a neighbor as the U.S. is thankful to have Canada to the north. And of course we are damned if we leave and damned if we stay and damned if we supported Saddam and damned if we supported sanctions against Saddam's Iraq and damned if we don't give a damn about such nations and do nothing. I recall vids of Saddam's thugs tossing fellows from buildings not quite high enough to kill you the first throw. I'm guessing they were guilty of some horrible crime. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 I recall vids of Saddam's thugs tossing fellows from buildings not quite high enough to kill you the first throw. I'm guessing they were guilty of some horrible crime. Undoubtedly. Iraqis pour out tales of Saddam's torture chambers It's one thing to think the U.S. did the wrong thing by invading Iraq, it's quite another to suggest that things are in a mess there because of the United States - as if things were peachy keen before. I wonder how many Iraqis, given a choice, would choose to go back to the days of Saddam? Quote
Bob Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 If Iraq becomes a "success" in the future, Bush's vision will be vindicated. The truth is I know very little about what's going on in Iraq today (the media barely reports on it, and it's hard to find thorough and trustworthy analysis on the developments, plus I don't really care...), but history will redeem Bush in the sense that his legacy will be reflected on in a positive matter if things turn out well. I'm skeptical, however, that Bush's subscription to the neo-conservative philosophy of an assertive foreign policy to spread democracy will yield real results. I think it will take real commitment across several administrations. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 I think it will take real commitment across several administrations. I think it will take real commitment from the Iraqis - if they don't want it/work at it, it's not going to happen. Quote
Bob Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 I think it will take real commitment from the Iraqis - if they don't want it/work at it, it's not going to happen. That's definitely the most important thing. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
Guest American Woman Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 That's definitely the most important thing. I agree and wholeheartedly wish them all the best in that endeavor. I was not supportive of Bush's move to invade Iraq at all, but I have always held out hope that the Iraqis would ultimately be better off - and in that regard, I question if life under Saddam would be preferable to a chance to build a democracy. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 I recall vids of Saddam's thugs tossing fellows from buildings not quite high enough to kill you the first throw. I'm guessing they were guilty of some horrible crime. I recall vids of Don Rumsfeld shaking Saddam hand and sealing the deal to provide nerve gas. Was Saddam a good guy then? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 I recall vids of Don Rumsfeld shaking Saddam hand and sealing the deal to provide nerve gas. Was Saddam a good guy then? Nerve gas...lol. Prove it. I'm tired of disproving it for you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 Nerve gas...lol. Prove it. I'm tired of disproving it for you. No matter if the US gave it to Saddam or not, the US turned a blind eye to the fact that he was using it. Especially in regards to using it on Iran. Is this part of the problem? Or part of the solution? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 No matter if the US gave it to Saddam or not, the US turned a blind eye to the fact that he was using it. Especially in regards to using it on Iran. Is this part of the problem? Or part of the solution? Prove they turned a 'blind eye'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Bob Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 I recall vids of Don Rumsfeld shaking Saddam hand and sealing the deal to provide nerve gas. Was Saddam a good guy then? What relevance does America's selling of arms to Saddam during its war with Iran have towards what's being discussed? Interestingly, Israel was on the opposite side of the fence, selling arms to Iran and taking out Iraq's nuclear reactor (Osirak? I forget the name....). Clearly, Iran's appreciation towards Israel is noted. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
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