punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Layton just issued a statement and said it was a smear campaign. It probably is but that doesn't mean it isn't true. The thing is though if it was true Jack would be charged he wasn't. Maybe the cop was just that bad of a cop or maybe Layton was getting a Massage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 The thing is though if it was true Jack would be charged he wasn't. Maybe the cop was just that bad of a cop or maybe Layton was getting a Massage. The truth is he was there during a police raid on a suspected bawdy house after Layton himself railed against such places. It doesn't look very good on Jack is all I have maintained. I don't see how even the most partisan supporter can say that it does indeed look very good for Jack that this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evening Star Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 "Found lying naked"? "A suspected bawdy house"? Come on, this is a freaking joke. If the public buys this 'scandal' at all, they don't deserve good government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 "Found lying naked"? "A suspected bawdy house"? Come on, this is a freaking joke. If the public buys this 'scandal' at all, they don't deserve good government. LOL. When I read that it sounds absolutely ridiculous and sensationalized as hell but it will sell newspapers that's for sure...lol again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Meh, the moment has passed for me. My wife didn't think it was a big deal either. I was running through the house proclaiming this big news about Layton. She said I was carrying on like he had died or something...lol. Maybe it's overblown a bit. I mentioned it to my wife too, who's not a staunch supporter of any party (I tend to bounce ideas off her to see if I'm being an unreasonable socialist), and her reaction was, "Yeah? So?" I ask, "doesn't it look bad though?" And she says, "Not if he didn't do anything wrong and it was a registered clinic." What she did say, however, was that she felt this was the worst kind of gutter politics and that she's surprised the Conservatives would stoop to that level. You and I both know the Conservatives didn't publish the story, but it's going to look very, very bad for them if my anecdotal sample of 1 is any indication of reasonable minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 The truth is he was there during a police raid on a suspected bawdy house after Layton himself railed against such places. It doesn't look very good on Jack is all I have maintained. I don't see how even the most partisan supporter can say that it does indeed look very good for Jack that this happened. The truth is he was in a Ontario LICENSED Massage Parlor when the police Busted in and found he did nothing wrong. Wait tell me more about this Massage parlor did it ever lose its License? Again seems like A LOT of people on Twitter that I know aren't NDPers are seeing this hatchet job for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) I know one thing Olivia is going to the wall for Jack and she is going to look like the Victim of the smear in all this and it is going to play well for her. Edited April 30, 2011 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Because we live in Canada and not the US. Libel law is very strict here and to report allegations with out making it perfectly clear there was not wrong doing is just as bad as lying True statements ARE NOT EXCULDED from Canadian defamation laws. This cop might get lucky because Jack is a nice guy but I would sue the pants off him and the sun. Bullshit. Learn what the hell you're talking about. I WAS sued for slander and libel by my builder and guess what....it was unsuccessful BECAUSE my statements were true and provable. Now this may change from province to province, but in Alberta the absolute defence is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battletoads Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Man the Cons will do anything at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle 3 dogs Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 NDP leader Jack Layton found nude in massage parlor, bawdy house in 1996 during police raid. Layton reportedly told police it was just massage. He was found lying naked in a bed reportedly. Story breaking on Sun News..... WOW! breaking news, 15 years old No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Bullshit. Learn what the hell you're talking about. I WAS sued for slander and libel by my builder and guess what....it was unsuccessful BECAUSE my statements were true and provable. Now this may change from province to province, but in Alberta the absolute defence is the truth. It does not matter if statements are true. If the statement implies something that is false or unprovable such as "A sexual act for money" when that is unprovable it is Libel. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Seriously good luck with that one. Have you ever had a massage? Sometimes you take off your clothes. LOL exactly. I can't hold it against Jack if he obviously happens to like himself some Asian ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn At least now we know what kind of garbage we can expect from SunTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This cop better have a good Lawyer because the rest of his pension could be going to the NDP. If the dips end up in power, the rest of his pension will be going to the NDP anyway so who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 WOW! breaking news, 15 years old No Yes. We didn't get to talk about it 15 years ago so we get to talk about it today. Democracy in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Will some more people please tell me more about the law. Where a communication is expressing a fact, it can still be found defamatory through innuendo suggested by the juxtaposition of the text or picture next to other pictures and words. Brown, The Law of Defamation in Canada, 2nd ed. (Scarborough, Ont.: Carswell, 1994) vol. 1 at 201 Here we have the case of innuendo. You have to be very careful how you write a story like this. I think this one was written with innuendo. The question is if the innuendo came from the paper or the cop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Democracy in action. More like idiocy in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 If the dips end up in power, the rest of his pension will be going to the NDP anyway so who cares? Yah because they actually want to give our law officers a chance to collect the CPP they have clawed back from them right? Even though they pay into it all their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Yes. We didn't get to talk about it 15 years ago so we get to talk about it today. Democracy in action. We didn't talk about in any other of the 4 elections we've had in the last 7 years either. Now I wonder why that is if it happened 15 years ago... hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraboss Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 It does not matter if statements are true. If the statement implies something that is false or unprovable such as "A sexual act for money" when that is unprovable it is Libel. Sorry. No, little one, you are incorrect. If they print or state something that is unprovable, it is libel/slander. If they imply it, no go. If people infer it, no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) No, little one, you are incorrect. If they print or state something that is unprovable, it is libel/slander. If they imply it, no go. If people infer it, no go. NO if they imply it, it is Libel in Canada. Again we live under a British system of Libel not an American one. I cited a law text. You cited nothing. Edited April 30, 2011 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 If the dips end up in power, the rest of his pension will be going to the NDP anyway so who cares? This is serious news. Jack Layton was found lying naked in a bed in a suspected bawdy house with a suspected Asian hooker who left the room with a wet tissue in her hand which was later discarded in a garbage can the policeman said. Jack Layton was the same man who railed vigorously against such places because they objectified women. Then we was found lying naked in one in Chinatown during a police raid. If that doesn't sound news worthy..I mean come on, that is gold right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is serious news. No it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 No it isn't. Why isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is serious news. Jack Layton was found lying naked in a bed in a suspected bawdy house with a suspected Asian hooker who left the room with a wet tissue in her hand which was later discarded in a garbage can the policeman said. Jack Layton was the same man who railed vigorously against such places because they objectified women. Then we was found lying naked in one in Chinatown during a police raid. If that doesn't sound news worthy..I mean come on, that is gold right there. Again watch what you imply. Libel case in NS showed that you ISP will not protect your identity in a case of online Libel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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