Handsome Rob Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Canada has a left wing government? Wow. when did Layton take over? Compared to the Yanks I'd say Mulroney was a lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Uhm, the US does not have a left wing government. Taxes are lower on gas there. Taxes are much higher on gas in places with left wing governments, ie, Europe. So how is it you think bringing in a left wing government would lower taxes? Gasoline prices explained Find the quote where I say a lefty government would lower the taxes the consumer pays at the pumps. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Rob Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 So that justifies giving these guys a corporate tax break,the lowest in the G7 or whatever or even more subsidies? Did you address that issue? What do these corporations and their upper management pay in taxes in these other alleged countries,could you explain that one for us too. WWWTT I didn't try to justify a position or issue on anything. I just explained to you why Canadian gas prices are higher than the states. Given the fact that their market is 10 times larger, probably more so considering their energy consumption, it doesn't come as a surprise that business costs are going to be less. But the tax free cost is in the same ball park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I didn't try to justify a position or issue on anything. I just explained to you why Canadian gas prices are higher than the states. Given the fact that their market is 10 times larger, probably more so considering their energy consumption, it doesn't come as a surprise that business costs are going to be less. But the tax free cost is in the same ball park. At least acknowledge that you do not know what the corporations and their upper management pay in taxes. I do not buy this greater demand =lower prices equation either,that does not acount for 20% difference.I can go further into this with a little research but to many righties and not enough time. Take it upon yourself to do more research on this. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 So that justifies giving these guys a corporate tax break,the lowest in the G7 or whatever or even more subsidies? Did you address that issue? What do these corporations and their upper management pay in taxes in these other alleged countries,could you explain that one for us too. WWWTT Wow whoda thunk it, the lowest corporate tax rate in the g7 also has the best gdp numbers and unemployment numbers. Oh those greedy corporate fools and their improving everyone elses lives damn them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 At least acknowledge that you do not know what the corporations and their upper management pay in taxes. I do not buy this greater demand =lower prices equation either,that does not acount for 20% difference.I can go further into this with a little research but to many righties and not enough time. Take it upon yourself to do more research on this. WWWTT Its called economies of scale. Had you taken some economic, management, and commerce classes or read some books, you'd know about this already. Here folks is why economic illiteracy is a problem in the western world. Off to wiki with you for some studying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Wow whoda thunk it, the lowest corporate tax rate in the g7 also has the best gdp numbers and unemployment numbers. Oh those greedy corporate fools and their improving everyone elses lives damn them!! I ya I forgot to mention the highest level of resources per capita WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Its called economies of scale. Had you taken some economic, management, and commerce classes or read some books, you'd know about this already. Here folks is why economic illiteracy is a problem in the western world. Off to wiki with you for some studying. Ya ok buddy comparing Canada to other G7 countries is like comparing dumb to dumber. But you should be good in that department WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Jack's back: Layton finds his groove as voters take notice Polls showed that viewers considered his performance much stronger than that of Mr. Ignatieff, his main competitor for votes. More importantly, Mr. Layton has at least temporarily reversed his party’s slide in popular support. By last weekend, the NDP had slid below 15 per cent nationally. Now, it’s trending upward toward 20 per cent. Meanwhile, Mr. Layton’s “leadership index score” (a Nanos Research measurement that takes into account perceived competence, trustworthiness and vision) has spiked sharply – still nowhere near Mr. Harper’s level, but well above Mr. Ignatieff’s. If those numbers hold, it stands to have a huge impact on the results on May 2, obliterating the assumptions and the strategy of one other party in particular. For the Liberals, this campaign was supposed to be all about winning back voters who have abandoned them for the NDP over the past decade. Toward that end, their platform leans heavily leftward; with the exception of Afghanistan, the differences between the two party’s positions are not easy to spot. In theory, the strategy makes sense: It’s to the NDP, rather than the Conservatives, that the Liberals have bled the most votes. But Mr. Layton’s personal appeal, relative to Mr. Ignatieff’s, shows signs of rendering the Liberals’ leftward swing useless. For the NDP, meanwhile, what was once an election about minimizing losses might now be about making new inroads. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/jacks-back-layton-finds-his-groove-as-voters-take-notice/article1987915/page1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I ya I forgot to mention the highest level of resources per capita WWWTT Venezuela and the middle east have lots of resources per capita. How's that going for them? Let's hear some stats, let's see some proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Ya ok buddy comparing Canada to other G7 countries is like comparing dumb to dumber. But you should be good in that department WWWTT I hear gib, but I don't hear studying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Uhm, the US does not have a left wing government. Taxes are lower on gas there. Taxes are much higher on gas in places with left wing governments, ie, Europe. So how is it you think bringing in a left wing government would lower taxes? Gasoline prices explained you may have missed the news from the US, they need serious budget cutting and a increase in taxes or they'll be headed into bankruptcy... the right has a delusional problem with taxes, countries do not run on goodwill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I hear gib, but I don't hear studying... But you smell wood burning WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) Electoral landscape shifts in Edmonton-Stratchona and Nunavuthttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/electoral-landscape-shifts-... Edited April 16, 2011 by Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) Venezuela and the middle east have lots of resources per capita. How's that going for them? Let's hear some stats, let's see some proof. Copper,iron,uranium,other fossil fuels,diamonds and other precious and semi precious minerals,gold,silver,bauxite,forestry,nickel,water,agriculture,fishing resources to mention a few. Do the homework yourself. I really don't have time for people who marganalize the full extent of the deep,diverse wealth of Canada. If people like you had their way Canada would be sold off in a private auction. Shame on you WWWTT Edited April 16, 2011 by WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Copper,iron,uranium,other fossil fuels,diamonds and other precious and semi precious minerals,gold,silver,bauxite,forestry,nickel,water,agriculture,fishing resources to mention a few. Do the homework yourself. I really don't have time for people who marganalize the full extent of the deep,diverse wealth of Canada. If people like you had their way Canada would be sold off in a private auction. Shame on you WWWTT And how pray tell would we get the money needed to extract those resources? Could it be corporations? People like me are having our way, there is a massive influx of foreign and corporate capital to fund these projects. Canada as a result is richer and more people have jobs. Back to the books with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 you may have missed the news from the US, they need serious budget cutting and a increase in taxes or they'll be headed into bankruptcy... the right has a delusional problem with taxes, countries do not run on goodwill... And the left has a delusional problem with spending. You may have missed the mess with trudeau, don't spend on crap you can't afford, too bad the usa didn't follow this advice. Now they have to raise taxes which slows economic growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 And how pray tell would we get the money needed to extract those resources? Could it be corporations? People like me are having our way, there is a massive influx of foreign and corporate capital to fund these projects. Canada as a result is richer and more people have jobs. Back to the books with you. Man your aguments are weak. I grow tired of the lame thin ice you are treading on. Time for bed for me. I've got to earn money tomorrow and there's no money in debateing with dumb and dumber. When I have time I'll check out some of the stuff your writing and have fun with you ok buddy. Fell free to have the last word and say whatever you like,I've got fish to fry. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battletoads Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Except that its currently working. The last check was that the deficit was less than expected. Oops!! Less than Harper's Prediction of no deficit? Man I must be reading some kooky news sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Venezuela and the middle east have lots of resources per capita. How's that going for them? It's true that Chavez's (self-)heralded socialist successes remain dubious, to say the least. But it's also true that Venezuela had just as many resources per capita under decades of successive right-wing governments...and by most standards the country was worse off, not better. Chavez is a rather poor improvement...but he is an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Based on poll trends that are now occurring, I believe this is about to happen unless the Liberals get so mad that they are dumped to third place (then again, maybe they won't be if they get a deputy PM, etc.) Conservatives 129 NDP 74 Liberals 66 Bloc 38 Greens 1 Result: PM Jack Layton NDP-Liberals-Greens Coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Based on poll trends that are now occurring, I believe this is about to happen unless the Liberals get so mad that they are dumped to third place (then again, maybe they won't be if they get a deputy PM, etc.) Conservatives 129 NDP 74 Liberals 66 Bloc 38 Greens 1 Result: PM Jack Layton NDP-Liberals-Greens Coalition. The NDP overtaking the Libs is pure fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I know the NDP supporters won't like this,but the main reason I got turned off by that party and downright scared of them is....... Bob Rae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I know the NDP supporters won't like this,but the main reason I got turned off by that party and downright scared of them is....... Bob Rae. Who is a Liberal now, btw. The NDP cleansed themselves of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Who is a Liberal now, btw. The NDP cleansed themselves of him. If the Liberals fair poorly in this election,Rae stands a very good chance of becoming leader after Iggy get's the Julius Caesar treatment.And since many Canadians hold Liberals and Conservatives to very different standards,he stands a fair chance at being Prime Minister too. (One thing even scarier for me....... Prime Minister Justin Trudeau! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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