Harry Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 We shall see...whether I am in denial or the junior NDP booster club is ina state of delusion...and believe me, Layton as PM is a delusion That's what you said about the NPD winning any seats in Quebec was it 2 days ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 I like Olivia a lot. She's a class act. And the best looking MP to boot I was disapointed I didn't get the chance to meet her tonite Hopefully after May 2nd WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Interesting seat projections. NDP will win more seats than Liberals — new predictions Is Canada ready for Prime Minister Jack Layton? Today’s polls show that the NDP has reached Liberal levels of support — EKOS has the two parties tied at 24.7% apiece, behind the Conservatives at 34.4%. And this doesn’t seem to be a one-poll anomaly — four other polls are saying similar things. What’s more, the distribution of NDP support is good — my model predicts that the NDP will win 81 seats to the Liberal’s 73. In every region of the country, the NDP has made gains over the last few days. Of particular interest, the NDP seems to have become the federalist choice in Quebec, solidly out-polling the other two federal parties and even the Bloc within Quebec. The model predicts 29 seats in Quebec, more than the Bloc at 22, and more than the Liberals and Conservatives combined. The NDP has also roared back to prominence in its historical stronghold of Manitoba and Saskatchewan, winning a predicted 34.7% of the vote and 16 seats. So what does this all mean? First, if an election were held tomorrow, the NDP have a 95.2% chance of winning more seats than the Liberals. http://themace.ca/?p=209 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) And the best looking MP to boot I was disapointed I didn't get the chance to meet her tonite Hopefully after May 2nd WWWTT You're really dreaming if you think the NDP will win 81 seats. There's going to be massive vote splitting between the NDP and Liberals. If you think Olivia Chow is the best looking MP you seriously need to get some standards... Yep, Harper will win the most seats and after the election the other 3 will vote down the throne speech and the budget. Then the other 2 will form government propped up by the BQ. We'll have another election in about a year and the Tories will get a massive majority. Don't forget that if the other 2 try to form a coalition, cooperation, an accord or w/e you wish to call it, with the BQ all the centre right MPs and citizen members will leave the Liberal Party immediately. Might even be enough for Harper to regain power if those MPS join the Tories. This is straight from a senior Liberal insider. The centre right of the Liberal party couldn't stomach any coalition or accord or agreement with the separatists. I sincerely hope this that these ppl try to form a coalition, we'll be rid of the Liberal Party once and for all or at least a very long time. They'll have the Sponsorship scandal and now an official coalition with the Bloc which let them grab power. They'll be done. Edited April 24, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 When Layton becomes PM, you better not talk about your father like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 When Layton becomes PM, you better not talk about your father like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansong Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 It must be real hard to be a left winger in Canada. Seeing Paul Martin bumble marihuana reform.The Liberal party having an open vote to extend the Aghganistan mission more than once Watching McGuinty secretly pass "get out of jail cards"to the police before the G20. Listening to Ignatieff whenever he opens his mouth.Ya it must be hard. Its a good thing that Layton is now going up in the polls above 20% and has the real momentum here. Maybe theres light at the end of the tunnel finaly. WWWTT Be very careful what you wish for, Layton will not have the majority needed and will ask the Bloc for support, that is when the fun starts. We will again be stuck with a do nothing government,go nowhere government. Layton mouths off against the other parties without knowing all the facts but won't open his closet door, lots of secrets in there, just ask the Bloc. Takes one to know one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Be very careful what you wish for, Layton will not have the majority needed and will ask the Bloc for support, that is when the fun starts. We will again be stuck with a do nothing government,go nowhere government. Layton mouths off against the other parties without knowing all the facts but won't open his closet door, lots of secrets in there, just ask the Bloc. Takes one to know one. Wow swansongs very first post is to take a shot at me! Soon you will be known as the song remains the same. Ok now.You are not really providing anything in your statement that is far from biased opinion So really this isn't worth me just countering with my opinion. Come back with facts and meat and then we'll spar. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Only in Quebec you say. Think again. Too bad Liberals. Too bad Conservatives. Layton ovationné par les Sikhs à TorontoAprès l'effervescence de son grand rassemblement à Montréal hier, Jack Layton a réussi son rendez-vous avec une foule d'une dizaine de milliers de Sikhs de Toronto cet après-midi, qui l'a applaudi très chaleureusement ce qui ne fut pas le cas pour Michael Ignatieff ou le ministre de l'Immigration, Jason Kenney. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/elections-federales/201104/24/01-4393014-layton-ovationne-par-les-sikhs-a-toronto.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B42_acc-manchettes-dimanche_369233_accueil_POS2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 It's interesting that Jack is already going back on promises he put in his platform. If the NDP ever made it to power I think you'd see more promises broken by them then any other government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 It's interesting that Jack is already going back on promises he put in his platform. If the NDP ever made it to power I think you'd see more promises broken by them then any other government. No he is saying that if something happens and revenue is less then they forecast he would be forced to spend less. That is the right thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Rule number one of politics. Do not ever answer "if" questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Why put something in your platform if you are unsure if you'll have the revenue to do it or not, and did he state in the platform "if the revenue is available"? Nobody ever knows what are revenue is going to be. How many other things may he not have the revenue for? I'm also waiting to see if he states publicly about a promise he made to the NDP candidate in St. John's South Mount-Pearl. He bribed him to run by telling him he'd have an inquiry into the fishery but when asked about the inquiry at a ralley in St. John's he wouldn't commit to it, the candidate said the inquiry was the only reason he decided to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Why put something in your platform if you are unsure if you'll have the revenue to do it or not, and did he state in the platform "if the revenue is available"? Nobody ever knows what are revenue is going to be. How many other things may he not have the revenue for? I'm also waiting to see if he states publicly about a promise he made to the NDP candidate in St. John's South Mount-Pearl. He bribed him to run by telling him he'd have an inquiry into the fishery but when asked about the inquiry at a ralley in St. John's he wouldn't commit to it, the candidate said the inquiry was the only reason he decided to run. Again what he was saying was. You can't always predict the future, if you could we would never have deficits or have to make cuts because revenue drops. However if that situation does arrive he would rather not implement some promises then increase the debt. I know this does not make sense to a Liberal but those voters out their that understand that there is only so much money get it. We should be so lucky that all leaders promise this. Wow a fishery inquiry is that how lost Liberals are now? They think a fishery inquiry is big big news. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Be very careful what you wish for, Layton will not have the majority needed and will ask the Bloc for support, that is when the fun starts. We will again be stuck with a do nothing government,go nowhere government. Layton mouths off against the other parties without knowing all the facts but won't open his closet door, lots of secrets in there, just ask the Bloc. Takes one to know one. the bloc supporting legislation is nothing new the conservatives have looked for that many times themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 You're really dreaming if you think the NDP will win 81 seats. There's going to be massive vote splitting between the NDP and Liberals.vote splitting? vote bleeding is happening on a massive scale from liberals AND conservatives...the ndp were 1st or 2nd in some 100 ridings last election, it's naive to think that only liberal voters are heading to the NDP, the ndp are hurting conservatives more in the west than the liberals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Jack did really well today at Khalsa Day celebrations. I guess the crowd started a "NDP NDP!" chant. Must have really bit Iggy who was on the stage just before Jack and had no chant. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/979561 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Again what he was saying was. You can't always predict the future, if you could we would never have deficits or have to make cuts because revenue drops. However if that situation does arrive he would rather not implement some promises then increase the debt. I know this does not make sense to a Liberal but those voters out their that understand that there is only so much money get it. We should be so lucky that all leaders promise this. Wow a fishery inquiry is that how lost Liberals are now? They think a fishery inquiry is big big news. Wow. First off I'm not a Liberal and you're quite ignorant towards the fishery and its importance to Newfoundland and Labrador and the rest of Atlantic Canada. I personally don't care either way if there is a fishery inquiry or not but the fact is he bribed a popular candidate who has a good chance of winning and had left the party to run again because he promised him an inquiry into the fishery and when asked about it he wouldn't say if he'd do it or not. The fact is Jack Layton makes lots of promises and has put things in writing to win votes here and there so he could have some power in a Liberal or Conservative government, now that it seems like he could have a chance of being more then the fourth party he's going back on written promises. Why put something in writing in your platform if you don't know if you can afford it or not, why not say in your platform you may not be able to afford the promise. They've critisized the Conservatives for making promises for when the budget is balanced and are now saying themselves they can't make promises because of lack of reveneue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 You are really really trying to find something here but I really can't tell what it is. I know you hate Jack but their are better things out there for you to hate him over. I really can't follow what you are talking about. You got nailed on your "Jack is lying" statement and are now throwing out what ever you can find to try and change the subject. I get it but you are doing a terrible job of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Jack is flip flopping on policies he put in his platform 2 weeks ago, people seem to think he is so honest but if you put him in power he is going to be break promises just like any other politician. You socialist think he is some god and that he is so different then Harper or Ignatieff because he has some charisma but he is not. Edited April 25, 2011 by Posc Student Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Jack is flip flopping on policies he put in his platform 2 weeks ago, people seem to think he is so honest but if you put him in power he is going to be break promises just like any other politician. You socialist think he is some god and that he is so different then Harper or Ignatieff because he has some charisma but he is not. If Flip Flopping turns you off then you better not vote for any of them because Iggy is the biggest flip flopper around. In fact if you want I started a thread before the election just to document Iggys flip flops. So again you Liberals are going to have to do better then that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 If Flip Flopping turns you off then you better not vote for any of them because Iggy is the biggest flip flopper around. In fact if you want I started a thread before the election just to document Iggys flip flops. So again you Liberals are going to have to do better then that. harper and the income trust wasn't a flip flop? harper Harper promising to he would end patronage appointments to the Senate wasn't a flip flop? harper promising now not to try take over the government if his party ends up in 2nd when attempted just that in that famous letter signed by himself duceppe and layton?... harper is the king of flip-flops he could win gold in the olympic trampoline event... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 harper and the income trust wasn't a flip flop? harper Harper promising to he would end patronage appointments to the Senate wasn't a flip flop? harper promising now not to try take over the government if his party ends up in 2nd when attempted just that in that famous letter signed by himself duceppe and layton?... harper is the king of flip-flops he could win gold in the olympic trampoline event... Yep with out Flips Flops we would not have politicians. Posc Student is trying to throw anything he can at Jack because he has a hate on for him. I don't really get it but it went from "he is a lair who is already breaking promises" to "he flip flops because of a fish inquiry" which Jack hasn't even talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Yep with out Flips Flops we would not have politicians. Posc Student is trying to throw anything he can at Jack because he has a hate on for him. I don't really get it but it went from "he is a lair who is already breaking promises" to "he flip flops because of a fish inquiry" which Jack hasn't even talked about. assuming "Posc" is short for Political Science Student you would think his prime concern would be harpers disregard for parliamentary procedure/democracy rather than flip flops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 assuming "Posc" is short for Political Science Student you would think his prime concern would be harpers disregard for parliamentary procedure/democracy rather than flip flops... Nope his hate for Jack is all he cares about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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