wyly Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 I suppose so. I guess St. John's would be the oldest founded by Europeans. even wikipedia got it wrong...which is why wiki is a crap source for info... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Guest American Woman Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 In response to the OP... I've been to so many of the places mentioned, and have always found something to admire about each site, from the east coast to the west coast. But, you haven't really seen Canada until you have been to the North. Seems to me Americans who stereotype the real Canada as the North are made fun of; at least that's my recollection of Joe Canadian. Quote
wyly Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 I suppose so. I guess St. John's would be the oldest founded by Europeans. which is still something I wasn't aware of and good to know... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Guest American Woman Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) St. Augustine is the oldest continuously occupied European settlement in the United States, not sure if it applies to North America. Seems there's really no definitive agreement regarding the "oldest city" re: Europeans claim. Edited August 25, 2012 by American Woman Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 25, 2012 Report Posted August 25, 2012 Seems to me Americans who stereotype the real Canada as the North are made fun of; at least that's my recollection of Joe Canadian. Don't you mean some Americans are made fun of, by some Canadians? Is this not your go-to pedant's response in most of your conversations? Standards, AW, standards! Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Melanie_ Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 Seems to me Americans who stereotype the real Canada as the North are made fun of; at least that's my recollection of Joe Canadian. True... but it is part of our Canadian identity to laugh at the tourists who think the North begins at the 49th parallel... Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Melanie_ Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 absolutely and I think what we like changes as we age... At my age, I have liked a lot of things! I wish I could remember them all! Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Guest American Woman Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 True... but it is part of our Canadian identity to laugh at the tourists who think the North begins at the 49th parallel... Well, Canada is the Great White North, eh? Quote
cybercoma Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 I've been to all major Canadian cities. i agree with wyly that only quebec city and halifax offer anything unique. vancouver, edmonton, calgary are boring. regina, saskatoon, and winnipeg are just big prairie dumps with dumb unspohisticated people. ottaw is boring. toronto and montreal are typical. i don't know why people get all upset because us well travelled people think our cities are just big piles of urban blight. Montreal is "typical"? What'd you do, drive through it once on your way to Halifax? That's a ridiculous thing to say. Quote
cybercoma Posted August 26, 2012 Report Posted August 26, 2012 Vancouver and calgary, both cities are incorrectly given credit for the nearby natural scenery ... How do you incorrectly give a city credit for it's natural scenery? That's part of what makes a city beautiful. Jesus. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 27, 2012 Report Posted August 27, 2012 How do you incorrectly give a city credit for it's natural scenery? That's part of what makes a city beautiful. Jesus. Calgary and Vancouver are nice in two ways. The surrounding natural scenery is amazing, and both have quite attractive architecture in the design of many of the buildings. You can give credit to the city or the founder of the city for choosing such a great location for a city. But I would not want to live in Vancouver, really really expensive. Quote
wyly Posted August 27, 2012 Report Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Calgary and Vancouver are nice in two ways. The surrounding natural scenery is amazing, and both have quite attractive architecture in the design of many of the buildings. You can give credit to the city or the founder of the city for choosing such a great location for a city. na...city founders never chose locations because of the pretty locations, they select them for reasons of transport/commerce hubs, primarily rivers/railroads/shipping...what's nice about calgary? the mountains are an hour's drive away calgary is a prairie city no different than edmonton, or winnipeg...Banff, Canmore and Cochrane are far nicer locations but yet there are no significant cities there because they aren't significant commerce hubs....But I would not want to live in Vancouver, really really expensive.ugly urban sprawl, I've been there many many times have no wish to return...ya people get all impressed with mountains on the horizon but they're just big rocks, when you've lived in(done that) or near the mountains they lose their appeal I rarely notice them anymore... Edited August 27, 2012 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted August 27, 2012 Report Posted August 27, 2012 Wow, maybe some day we'll all be as traveled and worldly as you.... Can't you accept that not everyone sees it your way? Quote
wyly Posted August 28, 2012 Report Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Wow, maybe some day we'll all be as traveled and worldly as you.... ewww penis envy...if you'd ever left hooterville you could actually contribute to the thread...Can't you accept that not everyone sees it your way?Can't you accept that not everyone sees it your way?...irony can be a bitch can't it... Edited August 28, 2012 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted August 28, 2012 Report Posted August 28, 2012 Can't you accept that not everyone sees it your way?...irony can be a bitch can't it... Yes, and I said that very thing when I said how I felt about Churchill. You on the other hand are quite adamant that Canadian cities have absolutely nothing to offer to anyone who would go see them. You aren't giving an opinion, you're presenting it as fact. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 ...ya people get all impressed with mountains on the horizon but they're just big rocks, when you've lived in(done that) or near the mountains they lose their appeal I rarely notice them anymore... Yeah, I hear you. I don't know what all the fuss is about. When I was in the Alps, I thought 'ho, hum - just more big rocks.' I wasn't impressed at all, and rarely paid them any attention. I should have just asked, 'What's the appeal? I just don't see it! There's so many more beautiful places in the world, and I should know, because I've been there;' but I bet they would have thought I was an Ugly American - although of course that would have just been penis envy on their part, eh? Quote
kimmy Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 As a prairie kid, I was in awe when my family moved to the ocean and to the mountains. Never got tired of it. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
wyly Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 Yes, and I said that very thing when I said how I felt about Churchill. You on the other hand are quite adamant that Canadian cities have absolutely nothing to offer to anyone who would go see them. You aren't giving an opinion, you're presenting it as fact. no now you're lying, I said they have very little to offer, as a tourist destinations they're shallow and quickly boring... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 no now you're lying, I said they have very little to offer, Which is your opinion, and nothing more. Obviously, many many people disagree with you, because they go there as tourists. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 As a prairie kid, I was in awe when my family moved to the ocean and to the mountains. Never got tired of it. I hope it's obvious that my post was complete sarcasm in response to Wyly's attitude. I've never heard anyone refer to mountains of Vancouver as "just big rocks" before. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 na...city founders never chose locations because of the pretty locations, they select them for reasons of transport/commerce hubs, primarily rivers/railroads/shipping...what's nice about calgary? the mountains are an hour's drive away calgary is a prairie city no different than edmonton, or winnipeg...Banff, Canmore and Cochrane are far nicer locations but yet there are no significant cities there because they aren't significant commerce hubs.... Calgary is a nice looking city, the downtown core looks great and is quite clean compared to places like Ottawa or Toronto. A good deal of the skyscrapers there are fairly new. I had spent some time in Calgary a couple years ago, and was quite impressed. Banff is part of the provincial/national park so as a tourist trap it is an economic hub in a way. ugly urban sprawl, I've been there many many times have no wish to return...ya people get all impressed with mountains on the horizon but they're just big rocks, when you've lived in(done that) or near the mountains they lose their appeal I rarely notice them anymore... Yes Vancouver is tight and real estate is expensive and the city is packed. But as a tourist destination, Vancouver has a lot to offer. For one, the food is great. If you love Japanese/Korean/Chinese dishes, then Vancouver is definitely a must. Those mountains don't loose appeal to me. Driving through the rockies last week was quite amazing. Anyone who gets bored of that kind of scenery might be a little dead inside. Two places that really got my attention were Kamloops and Revelstoke... oh one more .. Golden. Quote
Smallc Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 Calgary is a nice looking city, the downtown core looks great and is quite clean compared to places like Ottawa I would say that Ottawa's downtown is very clean. Calgary though, in 2007, was rated by Forbes as the cleanest city on the planet.....Ottawa was 4th. http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/16/worlds-cleanest-cities-biz-logistics-cx_rm_0416cleanest.html Quote
Smallc Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 places that really got my attention were Kamloops and Revelstoke... oh one more .. Golden. Have you ever been to Lillooet? Quote
GostHacked Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 Have you ever been to Lillooet? I don't think we went through that area on our drive, I really can't recall, but the scenery all the way was pretty damn impressive. Next time I am in BC, I will make it a point to see that place. Looks nice too. Quote
Smallc Posted August 29, 2012 Report Posted August 29, 2012 It is, quite truly, one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. I don't know what it was about it...it was like being on another planet, or something. Quote
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