Federal Election Polls

[Smallc]

Trudeau hasn't peaked.

[cybercoma]

Trudeau hasn't peaked.

That's the crazy part. He's just getting started and he's in Chrétien's majority territory. The ridings will be different this time around and the Bloc likely won't be a factor, since the party leader is certifiably insane. But it looks like Trudeau's charisma is going to far outshine Mulcair's toughness. We will see how the campaign plays out though because I'm not sure how voters will take to Trudeau's absences. People say it's the Conservative campaign against Ignatieff that sank him, but I still contest that it was Layton's nail in the coffin about his absences that did him in. Canadians don't want someone who's not doing their job and just putting up appearances leading this country. Trudeau with his absences will be painted as someone who's more interested in power and a legacy than working hard for the public. The Conservatives will jump onboard that message with talking about how inexperienced he is. So we have someone who's inexperienced and doesn't show up for work. The aging voters who actually show up at the polls won't like that.

[Smallc]

Ignatieff sank because he was nothing like most voters. Trudeau won't have that problem.

[cybercoma]

Harper's not like most voters and he did fine.

[PIK]

And lets not forget ''the evil coalition'' lol

[Derek 2.0]

Harper's not like most voters and he did fine.

Indeed, one part devil and two parts Cylon

[cybercoma]

The Cylons are his good side.

[Derek 2.0]

The Cylons are his good side.

More machine now than man, twisted and evil.........oh wait, that's Cheney

[cybercoma]

Harper's not that evil.

[PIK]

There is nothingg evil at all about the man.He does not give the finger to Canadians either or call minsters pieces of shit. Harper is probably the most un animated leader we have had in a long time. The liberal/MSM attacks over the yrs have worked, making harper the most evil man in the world.

[Smallc]

Harper's not like most voters and he did fine.

He's far more identifiable than Ignatieff...and why vote for Haprwr light when you can have the real thing?

[Derek 2.0]

Harper's not that evil.

Indeed, Harper was equipped with a conscious protocol from the factory.......

[Smallc]

I don't think he's evil at all. He's just borin and devoid of ideas at this point.

[overthere]

I don't think he's evil at all. He's just borin and devoid of ideas at this point.

Much better to have somebody new that is devoid of ideas. Much.

[Smallc]

I don't think he's devoid of ideas. I think he's playing things close to the chest at the moment.

[cybercoma]

The guy is getting scared. He sees those polling numbers and guys like Kenney chomping at the bit to get his job. Harper's own paranoia and lust for power is going to be his undoing. He won't give up and that's going to make the transition messy. Maybe Laureen can talk some sense into him when the time comes.

Edited October 3, 2014 by cybercoma

[Michael Hardner]

Harper's own paranoia and lust for power is going to be his undoing.

I won't be voting for him, but I ask you: where do you get the information that he has a personal lust for power ?

[cybercoma]

I won't be voting for him, but I ask you: where do you get the information that he has a personal lust for power ?

His actions show it. He has done a lot of disagreeable things as Prime Minister and the only thing that's been great about him is that he's so afraid of losing power that he's willing to back off his decisions and retool them when faced with harsh criticism from the public and press. Add to that replacing all the pictures of past Prime Minister in the government wing of Parliament with images of himself and countless other silly things and you can tell he has a lust for power.

[Argus]

I don't think he's devoid of ideas. I think he's playing things close to the chest at the moment.

The trouble is that's what politicians do before elections. AFTER elections, though, they get on with governing. Harper's problem is that he's ALWAYS in pre-election mode, and everything he seems to do is geared towards the next election. That includes ignoring complicated issues which can't be quickly resolved and fed into a happy sound bite. It's always all about image.

[Argus]

His actions show it. He has done a lot of disagreeable things as Prime Minister and the only thing that's been great about him is that he's so afraid of losing power that he's willing to back off his decisions and retool them when faced with harsh criticism from the public and press.

Every prime minister in living memory has acted the same way.

[cybercoma]

Every prime minister in living memory has acted the same way.

Not every Prime Ministers. There's been appointments from other parties to the Senate and other positions, other Prime Ministers didn't have the narcissism to take down the pictures of past Prime Ministers from the government wing, other Prime Ministers haven't gagged their candidates from going to debates or speaking to reporters for the majority of their campaigns. There's a lot of things unique to Harper that I find distasteful. Regardless, his obsession with power is what keeps him from being truly deplorable.

[Argus]

Not every Prime Ministers. There's been appointments from other parties to the Senate and other positions, other Prime Ministers didn't have the narcissism to take down the pictures of past Prime Ministers from the government wing, other Prime Ministers haven't gagged their candidates from going to debates or speaking to reporters for the majority of their campaigns. There's a lot of things unique to Harper that I find distasteful. Regardless, his obsession with power is what keeps him from being truly deplorable.

Everything Harper has done has been done before. Others have been as controlling. If an occasional opposition member was appointed to the Senate it was only because government numbers were so safe they didn't need to care care. As for removal of paintings, I found nothing on google. Perhaps you could offer up a cite.

[cybercoma]

As for removal of paintings, I found nothing on google. Perhaps you could offer up a cite.

Sure, here you go: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9c6b53f6-f0a2-4eca-93bb-559023144731

[Argus]

Sure, here you go: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9c6b53f6-f0a2-4eca-93bb-559023144731

So this is somewhat different than what you had claimed. It isn't a situation where opposition PMs were removed from anywhere. This is a Conservative area where only Conservatives are allowed, and there appears to have been some sort of 'exposition' of paintings of Harper on the walls, likely temporary. Or do you assume the Conservative lobby habitually is filled with pictures of Harper as a fireman and the like?

[cybercoma]

So this is somewhat different than what you had claimed. It isn't a situation where opposition PMs were removed from anywhere. This is a Conservative area where only Conservatives are allowed, and there appears to have been some sort of 'exposition' of paintings of Harper on the walls, likely temporary. Or do you assume the Conservative lobby habitually is filled with pictures of Harper as a fireman and the like?

All of the past governments have had pictures of past Prime Ministers and cabinet ministers. Not just of their party, but other notable ones. Harper put up a bunch of pictures of himself. I'm sure you can see how that's qualitatively different.