RNG Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Show me a link to any respectable site that shows NS having an unemployment rate of 0.5%. I call the brown effluent from the north end of a south-bound bull on that one. And I doubt the Manitoba number too. Quote The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Show me a link to any respectable site that shows NS having an unemployment rate of 0.5%. I call the brown effluent from the north end of a south-bound bull on that one. And I doubt the Manitoba number too. I said went down .5%. Meaning it decreased by that amount. It is impossible to have an employment rate lower then 4%. Quote
blueblood Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Maybe by all the Jobs it creates. During the recession small business was the only type of business creating jobs. I think in the last three years small business created half of all jobs in the private sector. This drives employment and the economy, this very same plan has worked well in Manitoba, and NS where they cut the small business tax by 3% over 2 years unemployment went down .5%. Your halfway there. Why doesn't it apply to the big guys as well? I take it you haven't been out to western canada. Over here it was "what recession?" Those big guys operating out here would like more incentive to operate. And even then when you get over the 500k mark there's a big spike in taxes, a lot of small guys are in that are as well. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Your halfway there. Why doesn't it apply to the big guys as well? I take it you haven't been out to western canada. Over here it was "what recession?" Those big guys operating out here would like more incentive to operate. And even then when you get over the 500k mark there's a big spike in taxes, a lot of small guys are in that are as well. You mean the big guys who take our natural resources out of the ground? Here is why it doesn't apply to them because they can't move that oil to Ireland. They have to pay us to take our resources. Quote
Hydraboss Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 You mean the big guys who take our natural resources out of the ground? Here is why it doesn't apply to them because they can't move that oil to Ireland. They have to pay us to take our resources. They're not your resources. They're Alberta's. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) They're not your resources. They're Alberta's. Sure and they aren't moving from Alberta. We could easily be talking about Sask Uranium, or Ontario's Nickel, NFLD gas, or Quebec Hydro. Edited April 30, 2011 by punked Quote
blueblood Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 You mean the big guys who take our natural resources out of the ground? Here is why it doesn't apply to them because they can't move that oil to Ireland. They have to pay us to take our resources. Great let's kill start up resource companies, move head offices offshore, and drill for oil/mine resources elsewhere. Not only that a significant portion of our population who want a nicer retirement are invested in said companies, why screw with investor's returns? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Great let's kill start up resource companies, move head offices offshore, and drill for oil/mine resources elsewhere. Not only that a significant portion of our population who want a nicer retirement are invested in said companies, why screw with investor's returns? Have fun drilling for oil elsewhere as well as mining for resources. Like it or not the world needs the resources and those companies aren't going anywhere. They are turning over huge profits and will continue to even if they have to pay a little extra. Quote
blueblood Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Have fun drilling for oil elsewhere as well as mining for resources. Like it or not the world needs the resources and those companies aren't going anywhere. They are turning over huge profits and will continue to even if they have to pay a little extra. Lots are and could end up doing so. Also have fun paying more for those resources because of those company's obligations to share/bondholders. Ask quebec how their regulations and high taxes are helping with gas exploration. That sends a bad message to entrepreneurs and startups, if you grow we're going to punish you. Unless the ndp has statoil and chinese firms lined up to develop oil resources, its a policy to deter resource development. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Lots are and could end up doing so. Also have fun paying more for those resources because of those company's obligations to share/bondholders. Ask quebec how their regulations and high taxes are helping with gas exploration. That sends a bad message to entrepreneurs and startups, if you grow we're going to punish you. Unless the ndp has statoil and chinese firms lined up to develop oil resources, its a policy to deter resource development. Nope they will pump all the oil and all the gas out of the ground no matter what the question is going to be where is our cut? I promise you that. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Have fun drilling for oil elsewhere as well as mining for resources. Like it or not the world needs the resources and those companies aren't going anywhere. They are turning over huge profits and will continue to even if they have to pay a little extra. Why shouldn't they get to have some profit? They've invested Billions of their own dollars. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
blueblood Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Nope they will pump all the oil and all the gas out of the ground no matter what the question is going to be where is our cut? I promise you that. Chavez tried that little trick and canada is benefitting from it. Why should we copy a loser like that? You'd be surprised how much oil there is in the rest of the world. The industry can shut down exploration and expansion until the govt gets its act together. Ask stelmach in alberta what happens when you hike taxes/royalties. Brad wall owes him a case of beer! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 That is the plan as far as I know. Is it a better plan? I think so small business was the only thing that pulled Canada through the recession. ya the stimulus plan the opposition forced the conservatives into was done by small business....when small businesses get a tax break the money saved stays and is spent in the country...corporate tax cuts go to millionaires billionaires in other countries... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I haveto admit, I am curious to see what a Layton gov't would do. The majority of their caucus would be made of people with no MP or political experience and many of them would be students. I'm not sure I'd trust a group of 18 year olds running the country. You have more faith in todays youth then I do I suppose. no political experience describes many conservatives has experience until they get an opportunity, the conservatives have number of backbenchers after several elections are still a waste of skin... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Sweet! Most Recent polling: Date / Pollster / Cons / NDP / LIbs / Bloc Apr 29 / Ipsos R / 38.0% / 33.0% / 18.0% / 7% / NDP within 5% of first place Apr 29 / EKOS / 34.5% / 29.7% / 20.0% / 6.3% / NDP withing 4.8% of first place Apr 29 / Nanos / 36.4% / 31.2% / 22.0% / 5.7% / NDP within 5.2% of first place Apr 28 / Harris D / 35.0% / 30.0% / 22.0% / NDP within 5% of first place Apr 28 / EKOS / 34.8% / 27.5% / 22.3% / 6.1% Apr 28 / Nanos / 36.6% / 30.4% / 21.9% / 6.0% / NDP within 6.2% of first place Apr 27 / EKOS / 34.0% / 28.1% / 22.9% / 6.6% / NDP within 5.9% of first place Apr 27 / Forum / 34.0% / 31.0% / 22.0% / NDP within 3% of first place Apr 26 / Nanos / 37.8% / 27.8% / 22.9% / 5.8% Apr 26 / Angus R / 35.0% / 30.0% / 22.0% / 5.0% / NDP within 5% of 1st place Apr 25 / EKOS / 33.9% / 27.9% / 24.0% / 6.0% Apr 24 / EKOS / 33.7% / 28.0% / 23.7% / 6.2% Apr 24 / Nanos / 39.2% / 23.6% / 25.6% / Apr 21 / Envi / 39.0% / 25.0% / 22.0% / Apr 20 / Ipsos R / 43.0% / 24.0% / 21.0% / 6.0% Apr 16 / Angus R / 36.0% / 25.0% / 25.0% / Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Sweeter! Ipsos Reid poll Party / Apr 20 / Apr 29 / Change Cons / 43% / 38% / Down 5% NDP / 24% / 33% / Up 9% NDP has gained 14% on the Cons in 9 days Libs / 21% / 18% / Down 3% Bloc / 6% / 7% / Up 1% Edited April 30, 2011 by Harry Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 A simple question: How much money would be saved if we abolished the Senate? Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 A simple question: How much money would be saved if we abolished the Senate? 500 million a year. So 10 Billion over 20 years. Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 We sure could do a lot more constructive things with that kind of major coin. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 We sure could do a lot more constructive things with that kind of major coin. Yes, like destroying one of the key constitutional checks on the House of Commons. That would be so very productive. Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Yes, like destroying one of the key constitutional checks on the House of Commons. That would be so very productive. Or feeding hungry Kids. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Or feeding hungry Kids. That's a false dichotomy. By that logic, we should get rid of Parliament Hill and have MPs meet at a Best Western. Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) That's a false dichotomy. By that logic, we should get rid of Parliament Hill and have MPs meet at a Best Western. Hey there is a thought. Didn't Tommy Douglas sell the lieutenant governor house when he was in power? I agree it is a false dichotomy though and poor argument. Edited April 30, 2011 by punked Quote
cybercoma Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 The only thing Senators check are their bank accounts as they rake in taxpayers' money. They offer no "sober second thought". They're nothing more than appointed puppets, representative of patronage handouts. The SCC has been a better check on Parliament's power in a couple generations than the Senate has been in its entire history. Quote
Smallc Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 500 million a year. So 10 Billion over 20 years. Do you have a cite, because last I heard, that was the cost per year of the entire Parliament. Quote
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