Federal Election Polls

[GWiz]

"The Free Market will free us all!!!"

(see:Gimme my tax cut and get me outta here!)

Now that's just silly my friend...

NOTHING in (human) life enslaves a person more than the lust for money... Saddest thing I've witnessed within and without the cosmos actually...

It's all so sad, so very, very, sad...

[punked]

"The Free Market will free us all!!!"

(see:Gimme my tax cut and get me outta here!)

You sound just like the Ontario Liberal Party.

[Smallc]

The Liberals have now taken the lead in Ontario. Not good.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20110405/tuesday-nanos-elxn-poll-110405/20110405?s_name=election2011

Edited April 5, 2011 by Smallc

[blueblood]

The Liberals have now taken the lead in Ontario. Not good.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20110405/tuesday-nanos-elxn-poll-110405/20110405?s_name=election2011

Tax and spend for everyone!!!

Harper needs to deep six the coalition thing for now, and rip that liberal platform to pieces.

The economy is the centrepiece now. Ignatieff has the advantage of being mr. Nice guy and throwing money around. Harper needs to throw in how corporate tax cuts are good for the economy in a quick sound bite.

[Dave_ON]

The Liberals have now taken the lead in Ontario. Not good.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20110405/tuesday-nanos-elxn-poll-110405/20110405?s_name=election2011

This is very good actually. If this coalition BS harper is trying to sell actually worked I'd have been severely disappointed in this country.

This isn't a surprise though, many people have been making a big deal of the Conservatives breaking the 40% mark mainly because that is generally indicative of a majority. That is if you're a liberal and you enjoy the majority of your support in the big two, Ontario and Quebec. The Liberal support is traditionally far more efficient then the CPC. Their support comes from the sparsely populated prairies and BC. LPC was always in geographically smaller but more densely populated areas. I'm trying to find it, but I read an analysis that in order for the CPC to gain a majority based on where there support comes from, they'd need to have closer to 44% support to form a majority. I'll hunt for it and post it if I can find it.

The other thing to keep in mind is that it's still quite early in the election. If past elections with Harper are any indication that's more than enough time for Mr. Harper to mess things up and drop well below majority territory again. At this point I'm betting on another CPC minority.

[blueblood]

This is very good actually. If this coalition BS harper is trying to sell actually worked I'd have been severely disappointed in this country.

This isn't a surprise though, many people have been making a big deal of the Conservatives breaking the 40% mark mainly because that is generally indicative of a majority. That is if you're a liberal and you enjoy the majority of your support in the big two, Ontario and Quebec. The Liberal support is traditionally far more efficient then the CPC. Their support comes from the sparsely populated prairies and BC. LPC was always in geographically smaller but more densely populated areas. I'm trying to find it, but I read an analysis that in order for the CPC to gain a majority based on where there support comes from, they'd need to have closer to 44% support to form a majority. I'll hunt for it and post it if I can find it.

The other thing to keep in mind is that it's still quite early in the election. If past elections with Harper are any indication that's more than enough time for Mr. Harper to mess things up and drop well below majority territory again. At this point I'm betting on another CPC minority.

Of course he's going to "screw it up", he's got the gift that keeps on giving in bruce carson and harper has to be the guy saying "no" to spending on education while giving "faceless corporations" "taxpayers money". That's a marketing nightmare!

I think harper has to go for a homerun against ignatieff in the leaders debate. Which will be extremely difficult in itself.

[eyeball]

I think harper has to go for a homerun against ignatieff in the leaders debate. Which will be extremely difficult in itself.

But but but, won't Harper's coalition partners be there to give him a hand?

Bwahahahahaha!

[ToadBrother]

The Liberals have now taken the lead in Ontario. Not good.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20110405/tuesday-nanos-elxn-poll-110405/20110405?s_name=election2011

If it's anything more than a blip, it certainly means the chances of a Tory majority are on shakey ground.

Assuming that's the case, the returned Tory government probably has less than 30 days to live, unless, of course, they cozy up to someone... like say the NDP... or the Bloc.

[Pliny]

The Liberals have now taken the lead in Ontario. Not good.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20110405/tuesday-nanos-elxn-poll-110405/20110405?s_name=election2011

Any opportunity in toppling a political party in power will produce a rise in support for opposition parties just from the hope the opportunity presents.

That it is only a couple of percentage points is not good news for the Liberals and the stagnant NDP will probably lose acouple of seats in the election.

Harper just may win a majority unless some major scandal comes up or the Liberals move to conservative territory on the spectrum.

Just ribbin' ya! Harper will never win a majority....well maybe....har har.

[Dave_ON]

Of course he's going to "screw it up", he's got the gift that keeps on giving in bruce carson and harper has to be the guy saying "no" to spending on education while giving "faceless corporations" "taxpayers money". That's a marketing nightmare!

I think harper has to go for a homerun against ignatieff in the leaders debate. Which will be extremely difficult in itself.

Agreed steady as she goes is a tough sell against classic liberal spending promises.

I however, was referring to Mr. Harper's flare for putting his foot directly in his mouth at the worst possible time. Harping on the coalition thing is a classic example of how he just can't help himself or resist trying to "stick it" to the opposition. It happened in both of the previous elections, and they've only recently recovered in Quebec from the Arts funding cut debacle.

[Battletoads]

Tax and spend for everyone!!!

Harper needs to deep six the coalition thing for now, and rip that liberal platform to pieces.

The economy is the centrepiece now. Ignatieff has the advantage of being mr. Nice guy and throwing money around. Harper needs to throw in how corporate tax cuts are good for the economy in a quick sound bite.

Even if corporate tax cuts were good for the economy, there's little to suggest they are, it would take a master orator to convince people that giving billions to the already rich would be good for them. Harper is not a master orator.

[blueblood]

Even if corporate tax cuts were good for the economy, there's little to suggest they are, it would take a master orator to convince people that giving billions to the already rich would be good for them. Harper is not a master orator.

Except they are good for the economy.

[ToadBrother]

Except they are good for the economy.

That may be, to an extent, but the Tories have done little to justify it, particularly as the average voter is in fact seeing cost-of-living increases. Corporate interests get large tax cuts and the people who actually deliver power to any government get tax credits for fitness and the promise that at some point in the future maybe they'll get something like income splitting.

In other words, the Tory platform sucks.

Let me add, however, that I think election platforms are actually worthless indicators, particularly during a time of economic uncertainty, but I'm just stating, from an optics point of view, the Tories seem to be offering the voter dog turds for breakfast and lunch with the promise of pizza for supper, while corporate interests are being guaranteed Belgium waffles for breakfast and lunch.

Edited April 5, 2011 by ToadBrother

[Jack Weber]

That may be, to an extent, but the Tories have done little to justify it, particularly as the average voter is in fact seeing cost-of-living increases. Corporate interests get large tax cuts and the people who actually deliver power to any government get tax credits for fitness and the promise that at some point in the future maybe they'll get something like income splitting.

In other words, the Tory platform sucks.

Let me add, however, that I think election platforms are actually worthless indicators, particularly during a time of economic uncertainty, but I'm just stating, from an optics point of view, the Tories seem to be offering the voter dog turds for breakfast and lunch with the promise of pizza for supper, while corporate interests are being guaranteed Belgium waffles for breakfast and lunch.

I agree,but it does give us a little insight into Tory priorities..Not that what's been revealed is terribly shocking...

These promises...They are a little reminiscent if the Liberal Red Book promises from almost 20 yearsago...

In otherwords,they'll never turn a wheel...

Edited April 5, 2011 by Jack Weber

[blueblood]

That may be, to an extent, but the Tories have done little to justify it, particularly as the average voter is in fact seeing cost-of-living increases. Corporate interests get large tax cuts and the people who actually deliver power to any government get tax credits for fitness and the promise that at some point in the future maybe they'll get something like income splitting.

In other words, the Tory platform sucks.

Let me add, however, that I think election platforms are actually worthless indicators, particularly during a time of economic uncertainty, but I'm just stating, from an optics point of view, the Tories seem to be offering the voter dog turds for breakfast and lunch with the promise of pizza for supper, while corporate interests are being guaranteed Belgium waffles for breakfast and lunch.

That's been my point. Harper has to communicate something very difficult which is a net benefit to canada vs ignatieff who gets to show us a spending scheme that very likely hinders our economy.

Harper is hoping that canadians are big picture thinkers, unfortunately for him there might not be enough.

[ToadBrother]

That's been my point. Harper has to communicate something very difficult which is a net benefit to canada vs ignatieff who gets to show us a spending scheme that very likely hinders our economy.

Harper is hoping that canadians are big picture thinkers, unfortunately for him there might not be enough.

I see little enough justification for the cuts at this time. In fact, I think any kind of tax cut to anybody is ludicrous when we have no idea of the repurcussions that still may be felt from everything from the Japanese earthquake (they're literally shutting down automotive and electronics factories outside of Japan right now due to lack of parts), from the potential for Irish, Greek, Spanish and Portugese defaults (economic experts have in fact suggested that there's a 1 in 7 chance that the Euro might melt down), not to mention a good many unknowns about global oil supply.

It's a stupid idea at a stupid time. Corporations can pay their goddamned taxes like the rest of us to keep our economy in good shape. Ireland's huge tax cuts to corporations which made it into the so-called Celtic Tiger utterly backfired on them.

If promising in four years, budgetary and economic factories taken into account, to help out the voter on income taxes is legitimate, then the corporations can sit on the same damned backburner. The "big picture" as you put it, is that we're holding on our own right now, and doing reasonably well, which suggests that rather than tinkering with things, we should maintain the status quo. That's why I hope for another Tory minority. No ludicrous NDP or Liberal spending programs and no ludicrous tax cuts to corporations.

Edited April 5, 2011 by ToadBrother

[eyeball]

That's why I hope for another Tory minority. No ludicrous NDP or Liberal spending programs and no ludicrous tax cuts to corporations.

I'd rather see a Liberal minority. I'm hoping to see some movement on the prohibition file and the promise of a new tax revenue stream not to mention the redirection of money for prisons to...healthcare makes the most sense.

The Conservatives are obviously hopeless when it comes to civil liberties and common sense.

Edited April 5, 2011 by eyeball

[Jack Weber]

I'd rather see a Liberal minority. I'm hoping to see some movement on the prohibition file and the promise of a new tax revenue stream not to mention the redirection of money for prisons to...healthcare makes the most sense.

The Conservatives are obviously hopeless when it comes to civil liberties and common sense.

Prohibition file??

Please don't tell me decriminalization/legalization of dope is a hot button issue for you...

[eyeball]

Prohibition file??

Please don't tell me decriminalization/legalization of dope is a hot button issue for you...

I'm more interested in seeing equality before the law and given the hot-button issue of crime it's ironic that prohibition is such a taboo topic.

[Jack Weber]

I'm more interested in seeing equality before the law and given the hot-button issue of crime it's ironic that prohibition is such a taboo topic.

It's not taboo....

It's just stupid and unimportant...

[eyeball]

It's not taboo....

It's just stupid and unimportant...

So you've been told.

[Jack Weber]

erm...No....I just don't give a shite about dope....

[eyeball]

erm...No....I just don't give a shite about dope....

Horseshite you don't.

10$ says you'd be livid if it was an issue.

Edited April 5, 2011 by eyeball

[Jack Weber]

Horseshite you don't.

10$ says you'd be livid if it was an issue.

Nope...Don't care...

[eyeball]

Nope...Don't care...

Yep, and that's probably why we're still saddled with so much apparent crime and guns - hot button issues that never seem to go away.

Go figure.