blueblood Posted July 29, 2015 Report Posted July 29, 2015 Sure you can, that's what polling does. It would take a major shift to give the CPC anything more than a very slim majority, and that's before Duffy resumes and the debates happen. I meant slim minority Just like in 2011? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Evening Star Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Just like in 2011? Pretty much every poll showed a CPC lead in the pre-campaign period and during the campaign in 2011, right up to Election Day, going by the Wiki page. (In retrospect, the excitement of NDP supporters at the time seems a bit quaint.) The situation is pretty different now. Edited July 30, 2015 by Evening Star Quote
Smallc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Pretty much every poll showed a CPC lead in the pre-campaign period and during the campaign in 2011, right up to Election Day, going by the Wiki page. (In retrospect, the excitement of NDP supporters at the time seems a bit quaint.) The situation is pretty different now. At the moment, the Conservatives are tied for 1st. For such a hated party, that seems strange. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 At the moment, the Conservatives are tied for 1st. For such a hated party, that seems strange. Not when you consider how the mighty have fallen. Quote
Smallc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Not when you consider how the mighty have fallen. How many Prime Ministers have won a 4th term? Considering where he is in his career, he's doing pretty well. Quote
Evening Star Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 At the moment, the Conservatives are tied for 1st. For such a hated party, that seems strange. Dunno what to say. I see no difficulty extrapolating a Tory majority from numbers like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_in_the_Canadian_federal_election,_2011 but it's harder from numbers like these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_42nd_Canadian_federal_election Doesn't mean at all that it's impossible but it would require a shift in public opinion. Quote
Smallc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Doesn't mean at all that it's impossible but it would require a shift in public opinion. The Conservatives, according to much theorizing, require only 35% to win a majority with the new electoral seats and boundaries. That's not all that far from where they are, considering that they always tend to poll low, especially this far out. Quote
Evening Star Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Really? The Tories could win a majority if they get 35% and the NDP gets over 30%? That might turn me into an electoral reform activist. I'd like to see this theorizing. Quote
Evening Star Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 In Ontario in 1990, the NDP won a majority with 37.6% when the Liberals won 32.4%. That's the closest example to that I can think of. Is there one that's closer? Quote
Smallc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 Really? The Tories could win a majority if they get 35% and the NDP gets over 30%? That might turn me into an electoral reform activist. I'd like to see this theorizing. I read it somewhere, and a few people have repeated it here. I can't remember where I saw it. It has to do with the efficiency of the tory vote in a lot of suburban ridings. The Conservatives are much better at getting the vote out in places where they need to. Quote
waldo Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 waaaa! Say it ain't so... say the Harper Conservative "Just Not Ready" attack ad hasn't backfired! Well done PMO short-pant tykes, well done! Conservatives’ Trudeau attack ad is prompting NDP supporters to vote Liberal: Forum Research poll Quote
Keepitsimple Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 waaaa! Say it ain't so... say the Harper Conservative "Just Not Ready" attack ad hasn't backfired! Well done PMO short-pant tykes, well done! Conservatives’ Trudeau attack ad is prompting NDP supporters to vote Liberal: Forum Research poll That would be good news for the Liberals.....Lord knows they could use some. Quote Back to Basics
Smallc Posted July 30, 2015 Report Posted July 30, 2015 That would be good news for the Liberals.....Lord knows they could use some. It would be good news for the Conservatives too. It will split the vote and make theirs even more effieicent. Quote
Big Guy Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Canada reported that our GDP is in fifth consecutive monthly decline. We are in a, ready for this ...... RECESSION!!! It will be interesting that our current majority government, who has been in total charge of our economy, will be explaining this. Will/should this effect the vote? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
BC_chick Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Canada reported that our GDP is in fifth consecutive monthly decline. We are in a, ready for this ...... RECESSION!!! It will be interesting that our current majority government, who has been in total charge of our economy, will be explaining this. Will/should this effect the vote? I'm sure there is a way to blame Paul Martin for it. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
PIK Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 With the PS union ad ,with the bleeding heart has backfired IMO. And the ONT government coming out against harper and blaming him for their problems can only help the conservatives. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) The only thing going well for the conservatives was the economy and that too has turned soured past six months. Dropping GDP for past 5 months putting us in a technical recession, minimal job creation even net job losses and possible Federal deficit, all would likely take away many long time conservative votes. Other than the economy I don't see anything else which may persuade many voters to vote for the Cons. Ever since they form a majority 4 years ago the country has been hit with scandals, corruptions, some still before the courts not to mention some undemocratic moves by the Cons like early end to debates in the parliament, pushing through legislations,....enough said. TIME FOR A CHANGE as 66% of Canadians have indicated in the recent polls and that is certainly my view. Edited August 1, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Keepitsimple Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 TIME FOR A CHANGE as 66% of Canadians have indicated in the recent polls and that is certainly my view. More likely - time to seriously consider your alternatives. 75% of Canadians don't want the Liberals. 67% don't want the NDP. 67% don't want the Conservatives. In just about every modern election except for the Mulroney years, 60% of Canadians didn't vote for the winning party.....yet we still seem to do pretty well. Quote Back to Basics
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Yes the Cons form a majority with only 25% of eligible voters and shoved down our throats (the other 75%) their way of conservatism with backward legislations in an undemocratic manner and scandals and corruptions for 4 years. Enough said. TIME FOR A CHANGE. May be not only change of government but also electoral reforms. Canada deserves better. Edited August 1, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Keepitsimple Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Yes the Cons form a majority with only 25% of eligible voters and shoved down our throats (the other 75%) their way of conservatism with backward legislations in an undemocratic manner and scandals and corruptions for 4 years. Enough said. TIME FOR A CHANGE. May be not only change of government but also electoral reforms. Canada deserves better. And I guess that means the NDP and Liberals got 20% or less of eligible voters. What's your point? Quote Back to Basics
On Guard for Thee Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Yes the Cons form a majority with only 25% of eligible voters and shoved down our throats (the other 75%) their way of conservatism with backward legislations in an undemocratic manner and scandals and corruptions for 4 years. Enough said. TIME FOR A CHANGE. May be not only change of government but also electoral reforms. Canada deserves better. And Harper has now gone on this crazy ass spending spree. Pu one hand on your wallet, and get ready to mark your X before the debt blossoms even more. Quote
Smallc Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 And Harper has now gone on this crazy ass spending spree. Pu one hand on your wallet, and get ready to mark your X before the debt blossoms even more. Giving money back to people isn't a spending spree. Not since the 1950s has the federal government taken such a small percentage of the national GDP in tax revenue. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 Giving money back to people isn't a spending spree. Not since the 1950s has the federal government taken such a small percentage of the national GDP in tax revenue. And not since WWII have we had such a huge rise in the national debt, such a downturn in employment, such a lengthy string of budget deficits...shall I go on? Quote
Smallc Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 And not since WWII have we had such a huge rise in the national debt, such a downturn in employment, such a lengthy string of budget deficits...shall I go on? With more falsehoods? http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/canada-deficit/ Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 1, 2015 Report Posted August 1, 2015 With more falsehoods? http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/canada-deficit/ http://www.pressprogress.ca/6_charts_show_stephen_harper_has_the_worst_economic_record_of_any_prime_minister_since_world_war_ii Quote
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