M.Dancer Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Are you saying that the City does not fund the Argos or Maple Leafs - or better put - the Grey Cup or Stanley Cup in any way? I don't believe I said that. Are you saying they do?> Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shwa Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 I don't believe I said that. Are you saying they do? LOL, no. I just wondered about it since they are as much a cultural event as Gay Pride. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 LOL, no. I just wondered about it since they are as much a cultural event as Gay Pride. Afaik there isn't wide spread public displays of fellatio and penis stroking in the streets during an Argo game or Leaf game. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Mayor Ford got over 50% of the vote while Smitherman got only 25%. I think the majority of Torontonians want what Ford Nation is doing. An election win does not equate a carte blanche for every decision. BTW: Ford got 47% of the vote, Smitherman got 35%. Canada is a place for everyone to feel comfortable and be free from racial targeting and racism. I think you need to prove that Queers Against Israeli Apartheid is racist. Quote
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Afaik there isn't wide spread public displays of fellatio and penis stroking in the streets during an Argo game or Leaf game. Does this mean the movie is coming out, so to speak? Quote
Shwa Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Afaik there isn't wide spread public displays of fellatio and penis stroking in the streets during an Argo game or Leaf game. Gawd, Mr. Canada, are you SURE you want to bring that up? Quote
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Gawd, Mr. Canada, are you SURE you want to bring that up? It's his favourite subject. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Should the City fund the Argos and the Maple Leafs? If it's good politics then sure. But you knew that. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 LOL, no. I just wondered about it since they are as much a cultural event as Gay Pride. Actually, the city paid for upgrades to BMO field. I wouldn't be surprised if one could find examples of City funds or tax breaks going to MLG. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Mr.Canada Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 This is about QuAIA. If they're involved in Pride they get no money. Canada is for everyone. Targeting a group for discrimination because of ethnic make up or national origin is against the Charter of Rights in this country. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 This is about QuAIA. If they're involved in Pride they get no money. Canada is for everyone. Targeting a group for discrimination because of ethnic make up or national origin is against the Charter of Rights in this country. How are they targeting anyone for discrimination? Evidence, please. If you feel you have a complaint, why not file a complaint with the Human Rights tribunal? The mayor should not have the sole authority to determine what is hate speech and who should or should not receive funding on the basis of their conformity with his personal beliefs. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 The mayor should not have the sole authority to determine what is hate speech and who should or should not receive funding on the basis of their conformity with his personal beliefs. The mayor should have even more power. I like the mayoral system in the US where the mayor has the power to do whatever they want pretty much. Here in Canada there's silly votes for everything. The mayor gets voted in to get things done, sucks that a council has to stand in the way of his agenda. The Mayor gets voted in because of his personal beliefs and agenda, that's called a campaign. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 The mayor should have even more power. I like the mayoral system in the US where the mayor has the power to do whatever they want pretty much. Here in Canada there's silly votes for everything. The mayor gets voted in to get things done, sucks that a council has to stand in the way of his agenda. The Mayor gets voted in because of his personal beliefs and agenda, that's called a campaign. Well you are an apologist for dictatorships, so I'm not surprised by your anti-democratic stance. Although somehow I doubt you'd advocate for such a system were a mayor like Miller in power. Anyway, you still haven't answered my questions about QuAIA allegedly "targeting anyone for discrimination". Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 Well you are an apologist for dictatorships, so I'm not surprised by your anti-democratic stance. Although somehow I doubt you'd advocate for such a system were a mayor like Miller in power. Anyway, you still haven't answered my questions about QuAIA allegedly "targeting anyone for discrimination". The coined phrase Israeli Apartheid is itself discriminatory, vulgar and unwelcome in Canada. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shady Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Call it what you want. It's taxpayer money. Exactly. Apparently Black Dogg just learned that sometimes there's strings attached to government money. An election win does not equate a carte blanche for every decision. Actually, sometimes it does. As long as he's operating within the powers given to him as Mayor. The mayor should not have the sole authority to determine what is hate speech and who should or should not receive funding on the basis of their conformity with his personal beliefs. I completely agree. Government shouldn't be in the businesses of determining what is hate speech. But that ship sailed long ago. You can't have it both ways now. Quote
Shady Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 The coined phrase Israeli Apartheid is itself discriminatory, vulgar and unwelcome in Canada. Exactly. And completely disingenuous. Not to mention that I couldn't imagine what the fallout would be if somebody wanted to start up Muslim Apartheid Week, or So-and-so Against Muslim Apartheid. Quote
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Exactly. Apparently Black Dogg just learned that sometimes there's strings attached to government money. Stop misspelling my handle. Actually, sometimes it does. As long as he's operating within the powers given to him as Mayor. I don't think you understand what "carte blanche" means. I completely agree. Government shouldn't be in the businesses of determining what is hate speech. But that ship sailed long ago. You can't have it both ways now. So you're conceding your own hypocrisy now? Great. Quote
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 The coined phrase Israeli Apartheid is itself discriminatory, vulgar and unwelcome in Canada. How is it discriminatory? Are you the language police? Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 The coined phrase Israeli Apartheid is itself discriminatory, vulgar and unwelcome in Canada. So is Francoesque Fascism,yet you advocate for it.... Anne Coulter can be an uproarious boor,yet she should be allowed to say whatever she wants... Do you see how free speech really works,Mr.C??? It has to protect even the most odious forms of speech to really work for all of us... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Mr.Canada Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) How is it discriminatory? We had this argument last year. You do realize that Arabs live in Israel as well right? That the Israeli Arabs can vote, live where they please, work where they want. Go to any school they wish etc. In apartheid S.Africa none of these were possible for blacks and coloreds. So is Francoesque Fascism,yet you advocate for it.... Anne Coulter can be an uproarious boor,yet she should be allowed to say whatever she wants... Do you see how free speech really works,Mr.C??? It has to protect even the most odious forms of speech to really work for all of us... It was determined a long time a go that Canada cannot have free speech, it's too dangerous. I'm only following the rules put in place by the progressives. Edited March 9, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shady Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Stop misspelling my handle. My apologies. I don't think you understand what "carte blanche" means. I certainly do. However, I don't think you're familiar with the powers granted to the Mayor of Toronto. So you're conceding your own hypocrisy now? Great. Not at all. I don't consider it hate speech. Disingenuous, yes. Hate, no. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 It was determined a long time a go that Canada cannot have free speech, it's too dangerous. I'm only following the rules put in place by the progressives. That's cop out,Mr.C.... Either you agree that,even though Israeli Apartheid is an odius term(I agree with you that it is),even idiots have the right to say whatever they want in public (which opens them up to the right of the rest of us to publicly ridicule them),... Or you don't... I don't agree with Anne Coulter or Ezra Levant very much,but I thionk they should be able to say whatever they want to in a public arena... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) We had this argument last year. You do realize that Arabs live in Israel as well right? That the Israeli Arabs can vote, live where they please, work where they want. Go to any school they wish etc. In apartheid S.Africa none of these were possible for blacks and coloreds. For the sake of argument I'll concede the point: all that does is make the term inaccurate, not discriminatory. It's certainly not "hate speech" as your beloved mayor claims. It was determined a long time a go that Canada cannot have free speech, it's too dangerous. I'm only following the rules put in place by the progressives. So you're saying you lack the courage of your convictions? Edited March 9, 2011 by Black Dog Quote
Black Dog Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 However, I don't think you're familiar with the powers granted to the Mayor of Toronto. I sure am. And issuing unilateral declarations aren't part of them. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Mayor Ford got over 50% of the vote while Smitherman got only 25%. I think the majority of Torontonians want what Ford Nation is doing. You have the result on a poll about this latest decision? News to you, but voting for a candidate rarely, if ever, means agreeing with all his/her decisions or positions. Canada is a place for everyone to feel comfortable and be free from racial targeting and racism. Good. Now, let's not forget the fact that there is actually no racism involved here. The use of the term apartheid to describe policies of the Israeli Government is inaccurate, inflammatory and quite frankly borderline idiotic, but the claim that it is anti-sematic is nothing more than the same attempt at silencing/demonizing that welcomes any criticism of the Israeli government. Quote
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