Moonlight Graham Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Society benefits when the complete family unit is together. That unit being one woman, one man and child. Society degrades when the number of complete family units falls. This is all imho. Some of you may agree with me and some may disagree. I am here to voice my views on the issues. Of course its in your opinion, just like your "people not being born gay" stuff is too. None of it is based on science or research studies, or any kind of empirical evidence to back up your claims. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
WIP Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Mr.Canada, on 03 March 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:Society benefits when the complete family unit is together. That unit being one woman, one man and child. Society degrades when the number of complete family units falls. This is all imho. Some of you may agree with me and some may disagree. I am here to voice my views on the issues. Of course its in your opinion, just like your "people not being born gay" stuff is too. None of it is based on science or research studies, or any kind of empirical evidence to back up your claims. This is about the time when that old saying:"opinions are like a@#holes; everybody's got one"...comes to mind. Everybody has opinions; but our opinions should be based on the best available information, and not wish-fulfillment, as in that example. I don't think you'll make any headway getting that point across to Mr.C. any more than anyone else here has been able to get him to make an honest examination of his views and opinions. It is difficult for most people to change or abandon long-held beliefs that are considered foundational; but people who consider religious revelation to be their source of truth, are more likely to take the word of trusted religious advisers on matters of politics and social values as well, rather than form their own evidence-based opinions.....and that's why demagogues and despots always seek to cultivate a fundamentalist base of supporters. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Bitsy Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 This is about the time when that old saying:"opinions are like a@#holes; everybody's got one"...comes to mind. Everybody has opinions; but our opinions should be based on the best available information, and not wish-fulfillment, as in that example. I don't think you'll make any headway getting that point across to Mr.C. any more than anyone else here has been able to get him to make an honest examination of his views and opinions. It is difficult for most people to change or abandon long-held beliefs that are considered foundational; but people who consider religious revelation to be their source of truth, are more likely to take the word of trusted religious advisers on matters of politics and social values as well, rather than form their own evidence-based opinions.....and that's why demagogues and despots always seek to cultivate a fundamentalist base of supporters. Good post, and what you posit is that leads me to fear all zealots Quote
WIP Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Good post, and what you posit is that leads me to fear all zealots Thanks, and the troubled times we have been heading in to for the last ten years, seem to have resulted in an increase in zealotry. In Bob Altemeyer's book "The Authoritarians" he points out that times of fear and uncertainty cause an increase in fundamentalisms and authoritarian political movements. Some people are authoritarians by nature...just waiting for someone to lead them by the nose; but many people who would normally be rational and open-minded, take the 'leap of faith' into ideologies that provide simple answers to difficult problems when times get tough. So, it will be enough of a struggle just to keep reason and liberalism alive, without entertaining notions of banishing ignorance and irrationality. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
BC_chick Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Society right now is disgusting and broken. Immorality is everywhere, it's disgusting and the putrid stench is infecting out young children. Homosexuals are sexual deviants who made the choice to stick their penises into another mans anus. Where the poop comes out. These people are mentally ill and need to be cured. If children stick things into their anuses we would take them to the psychologist, for adults who do that in Canada we throw them a government funded parade. How far back in the traditional values are we going Mr. C? Please tell me that exact pinnacle of perfection before everything went to the ways of poopy anuses and ruined baby lives because history books tell me about all kinds of "disgusting and putrid" periods in the past that weren't all that fun for anyone but affluent white men. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
cybercoma Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 That's a good question, but I think Mr. Canada lacks the reflexivity to fully understand or express the ideas he posts. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 If one wants to live by "traditional family values", you are free to do so. Why should I, or anyone else, live by your code of conduct? The "demise of the family" is not leading to moral decay. In fact, I don't even agree that there is some sort of moral decay happening. And anyone that uses "the gays" as an example of moral decay has their head firmly planted up their arse. That is simply a bigotted, unreasoned example drawn from an opinion.... not from any facts. I don't think that one needs a personal relationship with a gay person for one not to be a bigot. These people would still be arse-holes even if their brother, cousin or mom were gay, I think... Some of my associates are so-called gay...I am kind to them - they are kind to me....one has to tolerate what society has created or you will go nuts....personally....I have more respect for a man pushing a stroller or one carrying his daughter or son on their shoulders....I tolerate a man holding hands with another as they waddle off mimicing females...I don't have to have a capacity for toleration when I see a father and child or a mother and child - I get joy from seeing what is traditional....the other stuff will always make me a bit disappointed in humanity...and a tad uncomfortable - but then I will be branded with a phobia.......a fear in the loss of high quality life. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 How far back in the traditional values are we going Mr. C? Please tell me that exact pinnacle of perfection before everything went to the ways of poopy anuses and ruined baby lives because history books tell me about all kinds of "disgusting and putrid" periods in the past that weren't all that fun for anyone but affluent white men. Most times pre WWII were ideal. WWII changed everything. Hitler ruined life for everyone imho. Before him life was very good in North America. After WWII people started getting all touchy feely with everything. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Most times pre WWII were ideal. WWII changed everything. Hitler ruined life for everyone imho. Before him life was very good in North America. After WWII people started getting all touchy feely with everything. Bad bad Hitler... Because of him people started wondering if bigotry and hatred was such a good thing after all. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Posted March 12, 2011 Bad bad Hitler... Because of him people started wondering if bigotry and hatred was such a good thing after all. I would prefer to live in a time when I was treated better then some other people. Wouldn't anyone? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 I would prefer to live in a time when I was treated better then some other people. Wouldn't anyone? I prefer to live in a time where I am treated based on my actions and my opinions. Not pre-conceived and bigoted notions. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Posted March 12, 2011 I prefer to live in a time where I am treated based on my actions and my opinions. Not pre-conceived and bigoted notions. We don't have time to sit down with every person we meet, conduct a formal interview with them to find out if they're ok. Easier when everyone looked the same. Now that everyones all mixed it's very hard to see your enemy. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 We don't have time to sit down with every person we meet, conduct a formal interview with them to find out if they're ok. Easier when everyone looked the same. Now that everyones all mixed it's very hard to see your enemy. I have no problem seeing who my enemy is. It is anybody who holds and propagate extremist views or who wants to replace our democratic institutions. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Posted March 12, 2011 I have no problem seeing who my enemy is. It is anybody who holds and propagate extremist views or who wants to replace our democratic institutions. We're on the same page there. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
GostHacked Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 We're on the same page there. No, no we are not on the same page. You want to replace one form of fascism with another. You want to curtail my current rights and freedoms. I am an atheist who would not be welcome in your new Christian Democratic nation. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 We're on the same page there. This coming from the guy who wants an authoritarian (dictatorial) regime, admires Franco the DICTATOR, remembers fondly the days when everyone looked the same, and will shoot hysterically "you defend terrorists, you want Canada to be like Saudi Arabia" everytime someone dares to point out that radicalism is a danger no matter where it comes from. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) No, no we are not on the same page. You want to replace one form of fascism with another. You want to curtail my current rights and freedoms. I am an atheist who would not be welcome in your new Christian Democratic nation. How dare you grab all the spotlight? I am a Christian who would not be welcome in his theocracy either. Edited March 12, 2011 by CANADIEN Quote
cybercoma Posted March 13, 2011 Report Posted March 13, 2011 Most times pre WWII were ideal. WWII changed everything. Hitler ruined life for everyone imho. Before him life was very good in North America. After WWII people started getting all touchy feely with everything. Abysmal labour conditions, no social safety net, the great Depression, child labour, women needing to fight for suffrage, people being shipped off wholesale to die in the trenches during the Great War.... yeah. Peachy keen times, mate. Quote
Melanie_ Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 Homosexuals are sexual deviants who made the choice to stick their penises into another mans anus. Where the poop comes out. These people are mentally ill and need to be cured. If children stick things into their anuses we would take them to the psychologist, for adults who do that in Canada we throw them a government funded parade. These parades are a direct attack on our children. Now the State is forcing schools to teach children about sex in grade 3 when they are 9 years old. Brainwashing them early to obedient slaves of the State. To never question the morality of homosexuality and trans gendered people for themselves but instead to accept it blindly without facts. Ahhh, now the current thread about the gay pride parade has more context... Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Mr.Canada Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Posted July 4, 2012 Ahhh, now the current thread about the gay pride parade has more context... Schools are definitely brainwashing our children. Of that I have no doubt. Some would call it teaching. Teaching is repetition until the child can duplicate whatever the teacher wants the child to do, say or "learn". I don't know how one can argue this point but you're open to try. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Signals.Cpl Posted July 4, 2012 Report Posted July 4, 2012 Schools are definitely brainwashing our children. Of that I have no doubt. Some would call it teaching. Teaching is repetition until the child can duplicate whatever the teacher wants the child to do, say or "learn". I don't know how one can argue this point but you're open to try. So you think there is a significant difference in the school system now as opposed to 10,20 or 30 years ago? I may or may not agree with homosexuality but I have no right to oppress the rights of people seeking happiness, just like no one has to right to tell me or you who you or I can or cannot be with. I don't think homsexuality can be taught, nor is it an infectious disease. There are so many kids in the country who are orphans I personally don't care wether they are in a traditional family of a man and a women as parents or in a family where it is man with a man or women with a women as long as they are cared for, loved and brought up to be productive and proper members of society. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
Mr.Canada Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) Re reading this thread that someone bumped, I sound like a crazy person who doesn't know he's crazy. I had some good points in there but unfortunately they were overshadowed by the sheer stupidity of the other posts I made. I don't remember but I probably got a suspension for this thread, if I didn't I certainly would've deserved one. Man, I used to say some things that would make General Franco blush...lol. Edit- I've been asked repeatedly what I do for a living that I can sit at a pc all day. I'm a professional online poker player. Edited July 4, 2012 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
TheNewTeddy Posted July 4, 2012 Report Posted July 4, 2012 On gay rights, more and more right-wingers are coming to your point of view. However, on other social issues, like abortion, more and more take the journey that I have; moving from left to right. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Mr.Canada Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Posted July 5, 2012 On gay rights, more and more right-wingers are coming to your point of view. However, on other social issues, like abortion, more and more take the journey that I have; moving from left to right. Abortion is a sticky issue and both sides have good points of view. Personally I don't agree with it but we do have choice in this country and I respect that. That being said I think some restrictions should be put in place regarding the terms of when an abortion can be performed but I'm not for a complete ban as we had before this current law was put in place. Right now in Canada abortion is unrestricted meaning a woman 8 or 9 months pregnant could legally get an abortion. Yes socially, on some issues I have moved to the left. I am still a strong supporter of the family unit, of increased controls on immigration, on curtailing spending and not raising taxes and a first strike measure to solve budget shortfalls. I'm still very much a conservative just a slightly more cuddlier version I guess... Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
socialist Posted July 5, 2012 Report Posted July 5, 2012 So you think there is a significant difference in the school system now as opposed to 10,20 or 30 years ago? I may or may not agree with homosexuality but I have no right to oppress the rights of people seeking happiness, just like no one has to right to tell me or you who you or I can or cannot be with. I don't think homsexuality can be taught, nor is it an infectious disease. There are so many kids in the country who are orphans I personally don't care wether they are in a traditional family of a man and a women as parents or in a family where it is man with a man or women with a women as long as they are cared for, loved and brought up to be productive and proper members of society. i agree with signals here. i am totally against the nuclear family. i believe in 20 years when enough data is collected it will show kids who grow up with two dads or two moms will be better of in numerous categories than the kids who grew up with the traditional BS family of a mother and father. also overpopulation is a GRAVE concern for gaia. we need less people on this earth not more. i will be teaching my students taht the nuclear family is no longer desirable. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
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