On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Where's those WMDs again? Apparently not in Iraq. When Bush decided to implement his plan, which had been construed long before, the UN was saying we need months more to complete inspections. Up to thenb they found nothing more than a few mustard gas shells. Which were destroyed under UN supervision. Bush was going in there regardless of anything to do with UN resolutions or international laws. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Yes it did. When you violate a ceasefire, it means the resumption of hostilities. Read up a little more I suggest. Quote
dre Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 But Saddam refused inspections for 4 years. That was a violation of the ceasefire he agreed to. Military action could have resumed that very second. Yeah but its the UNSC that enforces UN resolutions not random coalitions of the stupid. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Bryan Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Good question. An even better question is why would someone refuse weapons inspections for four years if they had no weapons? Kind of a dumb thing to do don't you think? It would be a dumb thing, if that were what really happened. Actual UN weapons inspectors say the US was lying about this. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 It would be a dumb thing, if that were what really happened. Actual UN weapons inspectors say the US was lying about this. Sorry, that's just not true. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Yeah but its the UNSC that enforces UN resolutions not random coalitions of the stupid. What do they enforce resolutions with? Dudes in blue helmets? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 UN weapons inspectors only resumed their work after the UK/US massed military force in the region. UNMOVIC and IAEA reported some progress but continued obstruction. Final warnings for compliance in March 2003 were met with more obstruction. So the "obstruction" was removed. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Sorry, that's just not true. Yes it is true. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 UN weapons inspectors only resumed their work after the UK/US massed military force in the region. UNMOVIC and IAEA reported some progress but continued obstruction. Final warnings for compliance in March 2003 were met with more obstruction. So the "obstruction" was removed. Apparently you have yor time line a little f'ed up. The troops sailed into the Med based on a plan that had long since been conceived by a couple or more war criminals on the other side of the ocean. Let's see, I think you assume at least two of their names for some weird reason. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Yes it is true. Not at all. It's common knowledge and accepted facts that Saddam refused inspections from 1998 to 2002. You're a denier. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Not at all. It's common knowledge and accepted facts that Saddam refused inspections from 1998 to 2002. You're a denier. He expelled them because he deemed he was being spied on by the US. Then he let them back in. Then they found nothing. Then boom. Quote
dre Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 What do they enforce resolutions with? Dudes in blue helmets? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
ReeferMadness Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. - Noam Chomsky. Still true after all these years. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 What do they enforce resolutions with? Dudes in blue helmets? Many of those "dudes" are American soldiers. At least in any of the UN ops I've been on. Quote
cybercoma Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Sorry, that's just not true.Yes it is. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-149938/UN-weapons-inspectors-search-Iraqi-presidential-palace.html http://english.people.com.cn/200212/03/eng20021203_107881.shtml http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,397432,00.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1418933/UN-inspectors-raid-Saddams-palace.html And all of those articles are just about the palaces, which were off-limits to the inspectors previously. The inspectors were investigating the rest of the country in the years prior though. In short, Hussein was allowing weapons inspections in the country but didn't allow investigators into his palaces. Before the invasion, he did open up the palaces however. The inspectors found nothing and the United States invaded anyway. Then the United States found nothing following their invasion. Now Iraq is falling to ISIS. Heckuva job, Donald. At least your companies got paid. Edited July 10, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Finding nothing after the invasion was one desired outcome. The WMD issue is/was still relevant for neighbouring Syria and now "ISIS". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 ISIS thanks the US government for leaving behind a plethora of equipment and arms. All that stuff the US said was going to be too expensive to ship back home is now in the hands of a terrorist group. Making them more powerful than some nations' military. Quote
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