William Ashley Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2011/02/18/pol-weston-glass-parl.html I didn't beleive this when I saw it. my first thought was, is this Canada? Looks like parliament may be hitting the fabled glass cieling. I'm starting to think the CRTC approved reporting false news. You know the middle east, now parliament being moved for 7 years. One might question the ceremonial and legal effect of shutting down parliament for 7 years. this quote is gold The project was officially unveiled by commission architect Linda Dicaire, who said the spectacular dome is necessary to “provide parliament with a dignified chamber and quality facility worthy of Canada's most democratic institution."Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2011/02/18/pol-weston-glass-parl.html#ixzz1EM13rzqj Edited February 18, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
Alta4ever Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 One might question the ceremonial and legal effect of shutting down parliament for 7 years. Moving parliament and shutting it down are two different things....not sure where this came from....uhhggg. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
William Ashley Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) What about regina? Or "Winnipeg" or maybe the senate to regina and the commons to winnipeg? eh? here is a little on manitoba.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba it exists. meanwhile the GG and diplomacy and stuff can stay in ottawa.. sounds good huh? Edited February 18, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
Topaz Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Some one suggesting taking Parliament on the road to each province for a year at a time. Maybe they could share each provinces parliament buildings. Quote
Smallc Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Or maybe we can go with the plan that's already in place. Quote
punked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Pat Marting had the best quote today on the new plan for Parliament which was approved. 'Everything they do around here costs 10 times as much as it should and takes 10 times as long … Guaranteed they will screw it up.' Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 It costs enough money to maintain the current buildings as they are, so wy the hell do we need to spend this type of money on something that will not make one lick of difference in how this country is run? We already have adequate facilities for our government. Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 We already have adequate facilities for our government. Not when they're out of commission for restoration. Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Pat Marting had the best quote today on the new plan for Parliament which was approved. I loathe Pat Martin. But, in this case, he's right. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Not when they're out of commission for restoration. Maybe Harper can prorogue government untill the restration is done? It's simply not needed and a complete waste of time and money, it will go over budget and take longer than expected. So no I don't support this blatant waste of money. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Not only that this structure is TEMPORARY while the other chambers are restored. Should be able to rent out some conference room in Ottawa somwehere ... waste of money. Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Not only that this structure is TEMPORARY while the other chambers are restored. Should be able to rent out some conference room in Ottawa somwehere ... waste of money. Can you find a conference room that is available for seven years, secure, and will fit 300 MPs? Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Can you find a conference room that is available for seven years, secure, and will fit 300 MPs? There are several unused warehouses in Ottawa that would be more than adequate to house our government temporarily. Put in a few chairs, a coupld tables, some security outside, ect ect .. would save a lot of money. Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 There are several unused warehouses in Ottawa that would be more than adequate to house our government temporarily. Put in a few chairs, a coupld tables, some security outside, ect ect .. would save a lot of money. You don't make a living designing buildings, do you. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 You don't make a living designing buildings, do you. What would be the relevance of that anyways? Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) What would be the relevance of that anyways? It would better qualify you to comment on what makes a good temporary Commons chamber. [c/e] Edited February 19, 2011 by g_bambino Quote
GostHacked Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 It would better qualify you to comment on what makes a good temporary Commons chamber. [c/e] As a Canadian citizen, I'd rather see that money spent more wisely on things that matter. This facility is a TEMPORARY one, that will run over budget and will not be completed by 2018. Then even more money will be spent fixing up the current facility so they can move back in after. I bet if you ask the politicians to chip in some of their hard earned money to buil the new facility, you'd get laughed at. Quote
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 As a Canadian citizen, I'd rather see that money spent more wisely on things that matter. This facility is a TEMPORARY one, that will run over budget and will not be completed by 2018. Then even more money will be spent fixing up the current facility so they can move back in after. I bet if you ask the politicians to chip in some of their hard earned money to buil the new facility, you'd get laughed at. Yes, it likely will go over-budget. But, politicians pay taxes just like you. And it's only a temporary Commons chamber; it'll still be useable space after that; the plan is to make it into committee rooms. I can't think of any other alternative; there's no buildings nearby (i.e. within the parliamentary precinct where all the MPs and support staff's offices are) that would have a secure space big enough to hold all our MPs for seven years and be fitted with all the required audio/visual equipment. There's the Chateau Laurier, but I doubt the management would be willing to give up their ballroom for nearly a decade, and the Victoria Museum (where the Commons set up after the Centre Block burned down in 1916) is now, well... a museum. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Glad to hear that my calls for more government transparency are getting through ! Thanks everybody, that's my time ! I'm at the Laugh Resort next Wednesday ! *Joke stolen from 680 News Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Sounds ridiculously expensive. If this is built, this building better be used and used damn well after they move back in to their regular digs. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Mr.Canada Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Not when they're out of commission for restoration. Canada isn't a banana republic. I'm sure you'd be just as happy seeing the government run from a tent but here in the real world buildings don't last forever. Things wear out need replacing, need restoration. The place needs to be safe for the public to enter. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Scotty Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) Sounds ridiculously expensive. If this is built, this building better be used and used damn well after they move back in to their regular digs. The last time they had to relocate they used the Museum on Mcleod street. I don't know why they couldn't do the same again It's already got a big, ugly glass dome attached and was just renovated (thus the big ugly glass dome). The museum of nature isn't all that popular anyway. We could put it aside for a while. Edited February 19, 2011 by Scotty Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
g_bambino Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 Canada isn't a banana republic. I'm sure you'd be just as happy seeing the government run from a tent but here in the real world buildings don't last forever. Things wear out need replacing, need restoration. The place needs to be safe for the public to enter. I think you're responding to the wrong person. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) The last time they had to relocate they used the Museum on Mcleod street. I don't know why they couldn't do the same again It's already got a big, ugly glass dome attached and was just renovated (thus the big ugly glass dome). The museum of nature isn't all that popular anyway. We could put it aside for a while. but wasn't that like 100 years ago? I doubt there's still a giant room inside to house the MP's. Maybe they could use the room i remember with the giant dinosaur (t-rex?) skeleton. Heck, actually maybe they could use the War Museum, when i was there it had a massive space that housed aircraft & other big vehicles, here: Linky. that's not too far from the Hill. We could make the Commons an exhibit there: "A-holes who start wars". Edited February 19, 2011 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted February 19, 2011 Report Posted February 19, 2011 but wasn't that like 100 years ago? I doubt there's still a giant room inside to house the MP's. Maybe they could use the room i remember with the giant dinosaur (t-rex?) skeleton. Heck, actually maybe they could use the War Museum, when i was there it had a massive space that housed aircraft & other big vehicles, here: Linky. that's not too far from the Hill. We could make the Commons an exhibit there: "A-holes who start wars". The Canadian Aviation Museum also has a massive hangar (obviously). It's in Rockcliffe and a 15min drive from the Hill. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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