Union Busting in Wisconsin

[Jonsa]

Reagan wasn't talking to you in Canada! The Americans, on the other hand, have seen a net rise for inflation adjusted household income. Wanna buy my 60" flat screen HDTV...I want to buy an even bigger one.

From 1975 to 2008, you have had multiple wars, multiple recessions, multiple unemployment rate spikes of over 10%, the greatest economic boom in the history of the United States, the greatest real estate boom in the history of the United States, stagflation, multiple presidents, etc. The list goes on and on.

It's interesting to look at, between 1975 and 2008, how the median household income in the United States has fluctuated.

In 1975, the inflation-adjusted median household income in the United States was $42,936.

In 2008, the inflation-adjusted median household income in the United States was $50,303.

http://www.davemanuel.com/2009/12/22/median-household-income-in-the-united-states-then-and-now/

Wow a whopping 17% over 33 years. Not that impressive.

Of course, you can look at statistics thru all kinds of prisms.

this link visually shows how the those increases are distributed. Seems the rich get richer and the poor get screwed every time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distribution_1967-2003.svg

[Jack Weber]

Wow a whopping 17% over 33 years. Not that impressive.

Of course, you can look at statistics thru all kinds of prisms.

this link visually shows how the those increases are distributed. Seems the rich get richer and the poor get screwed every time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distribution_1967-2003.svg

3 recessions and massive interest rate fluctuations in 33 years and only 17%..

There's no way that could keep up with inflation or the CPI during that period...

Tell me again how RTW equates to freedom for the employee???

[bush_cheney2004]

Wow a whopping 17% over 33 years. Not that impressive.

Of course, you can look at statistics thru all kinds of prisms.

It is impressive for those who saw the gains. These are inflation adjusted median incomes, so some did better, others not so good. Nobody ever said gains would trickle down evenly to ALL the proletariat.

It is just a lie to state otherwise....count the cars, PCs, housing square footage, TVs, gadgets, etc.

[Jonsa]

That's all well and good, but methinks you had better work on your own shit farm first, and worry less about ours. Can you manage to that, podner? Or is your pathetic existence so dependent on what the Americans decide to do or not do that you must inject your two cents in some hope of saving your own ass? Hint: it won't work....the Americans are going to do whatever the hell they please, and there is nothing you can do about it. Seek true love elsewhere.

Now that is truly pathetic of you. Unable to recognize or admit that America's shit stinks you lash out displaying just how much the toxic fumes have impaired your cognitive abilities.

Yo, this is s discussion board on US POLITICS. A place where we DISCUSS US POLITICS. A place designed to afford everyone their two cents even you. But I suppose you think its just another place for the jingoistic promotion of all things american and criticism be damned even if it is accurate.

[Jonsa]

It is impressive for those who saw the gains. These are inflation adjusted median incomes, so some did better, others not so good. Nobody ever said gains would trickle down evenly to ALL the proletariat.

It is just a lie to state otherwise....count the cars, PCs, housing square footage, TVs, gadgets, etc.

Yes, impressive gains for the 60th percentile and over. Incredibly poor for the lower 60%.

and while worshiping at the altar of consumerism, please note the explosion of consumer debt that accompanied all that lovely stuff.

[bush_cheney2004]

Now that is truly pathetic of you. Unable to recognize or admit that America's shit stinks you lash out displaying just how much the toxic fumes have impaired your cognitive abilities.

Quite to the contrary...I enjoy watching how the toxic fumes send you into a far greater panic than I. You see, our economy is not so dependent on exports to any single nation...yours is. The cognitive abilities angle is quite mistaken, as you will find me to be very much up to the task.

Yo, this is s discussion board on US POLITICS. A place where we DISCUSS US POLITICS. A place designed to afford everyone their two cents even you. But I suppose you think its just another place for the jingoistic promotion of all things american and criticism be damned even if it is accurate.

Pretty much...folks like you gush about anything American in just about any thread, not just US POLITICS. It's as if you can't hold a conversation without invoking America/Americans at every turn. Accordingly, I just return the favor. Seems fair to me...I am but one little 'ol American!

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, impressive gains for the 60th percentile and over. Incredibly poor for the lower 60%.

Then we shall have no more silly talk about the rich 2% as implied by others.

and while worshiping at the altar of consumerism, please note the explosion of consumer debt that accompanied all that lovely stuff.

Indeed...Canadians are now #1 in that department! (see how I smoothly worked that in?)

[BubberMiley]

It's interesting to look at, between 1975 and 2008, how the median household income in the United States has fluctuated.

In 1975, the inflation-adjusted median household income in the United States was $42,936.

In 2008, the inflation-adjusted median household income in the United States was $50,303. [/indent][/i]

You don't know the difference between median and mean income, do you? Because if you did, you would realize that measuring median income doesn't represent average income or reflect the growing disparity between the wealthy and the rest of the population.

[bush_cheney2004]

You don't know the difference between median and mean income, do you? Because if you did, you would realize that measuring median income doesn't represent average income or reflect the growing disparity between the wealthy and the rest of the population.

Too late Einstein...we have already covered this.

[BubberMiley]

Too late Einstein...we have already covered this.

So you know the difference, but are just trying to be misleading?

[bush_cheney2004]

So you know the difference, but are just trying to be misleading?

Which ever is worse for you...run with it.

[GostHacked]

So you know the difference, but are just trying to be misleading?

He does not have to try, it seems to come naturally to him.

[BubberMiley]

Which ever is worse for you...run with it.

Whatever. Just so long as it's clear that your data is irrelevant to the discussion.

[Shady]

Too late Einstein...we have already covered this.

Actually, Jack is Einstein. Bubbles is just a conservative stalker.

[bush_cheney2004]

Whatever. Just so long as it's clear that your data is irrelevant to the discussion.

Fine by me....I don't need "data" about America...I live there, remember? You don't.

[bush_cheney2004]

Actually, Jack is Einstein. Bubbles is just a conservative stalker.

OK...got it...Mr. NFL-NCAA is also Albert Einstein.

[BubberMiley]

Fine by me....I don't need "data" about America...I live there, remember? You don't.

I'm guessing this information has the same credibility as your income data.

[bush_cheney2004]

I'm guessing this information has the same credibility as your income data.

Even better...if the US Census is good enough for America, it's good enough for me.

[pinko]

Fine by me....I don't need "data" about America...I live there, remember? You don't.

I am sure you meant I live here or did you?

[BubberMiley]

Even better...if the US Census is good enough for America, it's good enough for me.

Oh, the Census data is fine. I'm thinking you still have to look up the difference between median and mean, because you clearly don't understand yet why the way you used the data was irrelevant.

That's okay. I understand they don't spend much on teachers in North Dakota.

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh, the Census data is fine. I'm thinking you still have to look up the difference between median and mean, because you clearly don't understand yet why the way you used the data was irrelevant.

That's okay. I understand they don't spend much on teachers in North Dakota.

North Dakota? Sorry...you lose (again). As for median and mean (average), I am a certified Quality Engineer well versed in probability and statistical process controls. I get paid lots of money for that, so proving anything to you is quite irrelevant.

[bush_cheney2004]

I am sure you meant I live here or did you?

No...the MLW server is in Texas, USA, but my heart is in Canada!

[pinko]

No...the MLW server is in Texas, USA, but my heart is in Canada!

How touching. Where in Texas is it located?

[BubberMiley]

North Dakota? Sorry...you lose (again). As for median and mean (average), I am a certified Quality Engineer well versed in probability and statistical process controls. I get paid lots of money for that, so proving anything to you is quite irrelevant.

And you don't know why median data would be irrelevant to that discussion? Sad.

Keep pulling your anonymous credentials out of your ass though. You're bound to impress somebody.

[bush_cheney2004]

And you don't know why median data would be irrelevant to that discussion? Sad.

Keep pulling your anonymous credentials out of your ass though. You're bound to impress somebody.

You already have no credibility. I am not a female from Regina...or North Dakota. I am also not from Saskatchewan.

Why you chose to go off on such silly ass tangents only you understand.