bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 That's right, carve yourself another slice of the Roast Beast. There is plenty to go around...please pass the ketchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yes....time for some more bargain hunting at etrade.com. I decided to go a bit more risky and try my hand at short selling. Worked out pretty well this week so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I decided to go a bit more risky and try my hand at short selling. Worked out pretty well this week so far No can do...I have a wife who is scared to death by margin accounts! So I have to do it the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I decided to go a bit more risky and try my hand at short selling. Worked out pretty well this week so far Such hard work - you deserve a great reward - I bet that hand you tried at short selling is blistered and sore. Always wondered about people who imagine that making money with money is some sort actual productive task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 ....Always wondered about people who imagine that making money with money is some sort actual productive task. Millions of pensioners and retirees count on just that. Even bookees have to do some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Millions of pensioners and retirees count on just that. Even bookees have to do some work. They should not depend on it - Pensions used to be called life savings...governmental pensions consist for instance of our super investing elites taking say the "teachers pension" and levering big buisness deals with money that is not theirs..but they rationalize saying that they are growning the investmented money of these teachers...There is a huge difference between traditional private "life saveings" and the government managing your savings for you...again - take the Magna car parts company - from what I understand they control the teachers fund in Ontairo and use that money to barter with....what happens when Magna tanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Good Morning BC. I judge that all is under control south of the boarder? All is well up here also. The sky is blue - coffee is available - and we will all have supper tonight..so what's there to worry about - might as well go out into the driveway and change those brake pads...as long as we have people like you inhabiting the great America - there is hope...If there is one BC in the states - then there are thousands...probably out numbering the government...It is the people that will have the final say..not your representatives in Washington. Let them play - and let the real work and decisions be left to those that actually run the place - the people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 So, who is all this American Debt owed to anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 So, who is all this American Debt owed to anyways? It would make sense that it is ultimately to a few individuals - You could probably trace it down to that! Wonder what would happen if you posted the pictures of these men ....if they would dare walk the streets the next day? It is up to those that are recieving the benefits of this debt to set it right. That might be simplistic..but it makes sense to me....I am sure that someone here could publish a few photographs of these lenders...every institution has a head - eventually when you go up the food chain and get by the committee level you are going to find someone in charge - The problem is in their hands and I hope that they will give up a few ounces of power so others can live...what's the big deal? Perfect example are these poor African nations that slip into failed state mode - most of these nations reached this point because they could NEVER keep up to the interest charged for massive loans...It's very inhumane on the part of these lavishly successful individuals..but then again - they take pride in their power and cruelty...could never figure out how such rich men could be so short sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 So, who is all this American Debt owed to anyways? My linkAs of January 2011, foreigners owned $4.45 trillion of U.S. debt, or approximately 47% of the debt held by the public of $9.49 trillion and 32% of the total debt of $14.1 trillion.[43] The largest holders were the central banks of China, Japan, the United Kingdom and Brazil.[45] The share held by foreign governments has grown over time, rising from 25% of the public debt in 2007[46] and 13% in 1988.[47] As of May 2011 the largest single holder of U.S. government debt was China, with 26 percent of all foreign-held U.S. Treasury securities.[48] China's holdings of government debt, as a percentage of all foreign-held government debt, have decreased a bit over the last year, but are up significantly since 2000 (when China held just 6 percent of all foreign-held U.S. Treasury securities).[49] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Each one of these orgainization have a controler I am sure - why do they not all meet...and discuss the moral implications of such usery of millions of common people? The G20 guys are not as important as these folks listed here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 My linkAs of January 2011, foreigners owned $4.45 trillion of U.S. debt, or approximately 47% of the debt held by the public of $9.49 trillion and 32% of the total debt of $14.1 trillion.[43] The largest holders were the central banks of China, Japan, the United Kingdom and Brazil.[45] The share held by foreign governments has grown over time, rising from 25% of the public debt in 2007[46] and 13% in 1988.[47] As of May 2011 the largest single holder of U.S. government debt was China, with 26 percent of all foreign-held U.S. Treasury securities.[48] China's holdings of government debt, as a percentage of all foreign-held government debt, have decreased a bit over the last year, but are up significantly since 2000 (when China held just 6 percent of all foreign-held U.S. Treasury securities).[49] Now, how do you expect to pay it back? Because the cuts that will be made won't be from the military (which is about 51% of the overall US budget, which is more than the next 10 countries spending on their military combined) , the cuts will come from education, health care and social security and pension funds, all while the taxes go up. Something wrong with this picture perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Now, how do you expect to pay it back? Because the cuts that will be made won't be from the military 1) How do *I* expect to pay it back ? 2) Why not military cuts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 1) How do *I* expect to pay it back ? 2) Why not military cuts ? Thought you were more intelligent than that .. how does the US expect to pay it back. And to answer your second question, AHAHAHAHAHAH military cuts?? Are you serious?? AHAHAHAHHA..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Tea Party: Bring on the Defense Cuts US Defense Sector looks at budget cuts Barney Frank: Nation Needs to cut Military Spending CNN - Cut Defense Tea Party - call for defense cuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 They are not really defence cuts. Unless you count defending the nation against profiteering defence contractors...who literaly bill the American people an arm and a leg - defence. To much of American wars are based on profit for a few. Those guys that suggest defence cuts are saying "You guys have enought and can live on the profits the rest of your lives so butt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Also - if the Americans cut their defence budget in half they would still be able to muster a strike force that would make any advesaries head spin...so that is a good start and it's nice to see that there is bi-partizan agreement on this issue. If there is ever a real crisis - America can still bluff it's way out with nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Tea Party: Bring on the Defense Cuts US Defense Sector looks at budget cuts Barney Frank: Nation Needs to cut Military Spending CNN - Cut Defense Tea Party - call for defense cuts Though it makes me sick to my stomach saying it, to an extent, I agree with Sen Barney Frank……The US will save a fortune once it’s out of Iraq and Afghanistan completely……Also, as mentioned, is it still really in the United States interest to still base troops in Germany, Italy, South Korea and Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Tea Party: Bring on the Defense Cuts US Defense Sector looks at budget cuts Barney Frank: Nation Needs to cut Military Spending CNN - Cut Defense Tea Party - call for defense cuts The talking heads may be calling for it, but it won't happen. The funding and spending on military and militarizing the police will only increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 The talking heads may be calling for it, but it won't happen. The funding and spending on military and militarizing the police will only increase. The Tea Party is not The Talking Heads. This Ain't No Disco ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 The Tea Party is not The Talking Heads. This Ain't No Disco ! Well, watch for Rick Perry to be burning down the (Romney's) house on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 The Tea Party is not The Talking Heads. This Ain't No Disco ! When has the military budget in the USA ever been decreased? If not, why not? And if not, what makes you think they are going to do it this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 When has the military budget in the USA ever been decreased? Have you ever heard of google? 1953 442.3 1954 420.9 1955 376.9 1956 356.2 1957 $360.9 1958 352.9 1959 352.5 1960 344.3 1961 344.0 1968 $449.3 1969 438.1 1970 406.3 1971 370.6 1972 343.8 1973 313.3 1974 299.7 1975 293.3 1976 283.8 1977 286.2 1978 286.5 1989 427.7 1990 $409.7 1991 358.1 1992 379.5 1993 358.6 1994 338.6 1995 321.6 1996 307.4 1997 305.3 1998 296.7 1999 298.4 2006 535.91,2 2007 527.41,2 2008 494.41,2 2009 494.31,2 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.html Read more: U.S. Military Spending, 1946–2009 — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.html#ixzz1UkWiePfW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Have you ever heard of google? I've heard it's some American thing. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.htmlRead more: U.S. Military Spending, 1946–2009 — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904490.html#ixzz1UkWiePfW With the disclaimer of : 1. Figures do not include expenses for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.2. Figures based on requested defense budget or projections, not actual spending. Sure, I'll give you that, now let's see actual spending figures, and kindly include the cost of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I've heard it's some American thing. With the disclaimer of : Sure, I'll give you that, now let's see actual spending figures, and kindly include the cost of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. There were no iraq wars between 1953 to 1999... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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