Why Are Atheists Cowards?

[Shady]

We've all seen or heard about their ads.

"There Is No God."

“You KNOW it’s a Myth. This Season, Celebrate REASON.”

Well, why don't we ever seen any of these ads from them....?

"There Is No Allah."

"Ramadan Is A Myth."

"There Is No Yahweh."

"Hanukkah Is A Myth, Oil Can't Burn That Long."

My guess is it's because they're cowards. Looking for the path of least resistence. Or, they're worried about offending people. But apparently offending Christians isn't much of an issue for them. Only offending Jews and Muslims. Which makes them cowards and hypocrites.

Either way, it shows their lack of courage and character. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they challenged religion on all fronts. Instead they pick the easiest way to push their message. Pathetic.

[Wild Bill]

I don't see your point. They use a universal name for God. Your complaint seems to be that they don't repeat their message a thousand times, using each of the thousand names (or whatever) for God.

Easy to say when you're not the one paying for the printer ink!

Edited January 5, 2011 by Charles Anthony
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[Bonam]

"There is no God" is a statement that is just as contrary to Islam and Judaism as it is to Christianity. Atheist authors generally oppose any and all religious notions, not just those specific to Christianity. Some atheist authors even use the specific example of Islam as an illustration of the dangers of strong belief in a religion. Your premise is fundamentally incorrect, thus there can be no answer to your question.

That being said, it would certainly make sense for Atheists to be more "cowardly". After all, atheists believe that once they die, they are gone forever, there is nothing more. Whereas Christians and Muslims believe that after they die they will spend eternity in paradise. Clearly, atheists have more of a reason to want to avoid death.

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[bloodyminded]

Bonam and Wild Bill are correct.

which is to say, you are dead wrong.

"God" refers to deity generally; atheists understand this, even if you don't.

If you want to hear some atheists slamming Islam specifically, listen to Dawkin or (especially) Hitchens. Personally, I find Hitchens more than a little irritating...but no one can accuse him of leaving Islam out of the atheist equation.

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[GostHacked]

It might be easier to be an atheist than to choose what god/religion they are going to follow, and follow blindly.

[Shady]

"God" refers to deity generally; atheists understand this, even if you don't.

Let's accept that premise. Does Christmas refer to Ramadan and Hanukkah?

[bloodyminded]

Let's accept that premise. Does Christmas refer to Ramadan and Hanukkah?

No, but they would all apply; again, that's obvious. How could they not apply?

Christianity has by far the most adherents here of all the religions. (well...in the world, actually.) So of course it's going to be the main focus in this sort of ad.

So what's the problem? Ask any atheist if he or she believes that the exact same thing applies to Judaism or Islam...and of course they're going to say yes.

They might even consider it a stupid question; which, to be fair, it would be.

[The_Squid]

It would be less brave to take out an ad in America that says there is no Allah. 95% of the country would agree. The aetheists are trying to stir the shit... a good way to do so in America is to "attack" the christian God and Xmas.

Very bold and brave move by the aetheists.

[GostHacked]

Let's accept that premise. Does Christmas refer to Ramadan and Hanukkah?

Christmas is Christian culture (for a lack of a better word) which is now been bastardized into a commercial money making entity which has gone so far away from what the real meaning of Christmas should be. Ramadan is part of the Islam culture, Hanukkah, Jewish culture. Why is Christmas so commercialized while Ramadan and Hanukkah are not?

All religions see only one god, their god while atheists see all different gods represented through the various religions.

To me, it takes more courage to stand up and think for yourself and combat the ignorance among those who blindly follow any religion.

[Shady]

How could they not apply?

Um, because Ramadan and Hanukkah have nothing to do with Christmas. In fact, Ramadan was in August, so how does it apply? Keep spinning.

Christianity has by far the most adherents here of all the religions. (well...in the world, actually.) So of course it's going to be the main focus in this sort of ad.

Not, not in the world actually. Ever heard of 1.5 billion Muslims. And that's fine if Christianity wants to be the main focus of their ads. But it's the only focus. Again, keep spinning.

[Shady]

It would be less brave to take out an ad in America that says there is no Allah.

Actually it would be more brave. Because of the shit storm you'd create. You'd be targeted by Islamic groups, as well as the media. Just ask the cartoonist who came up with draw Muhammad day. Oh wait you can't, because she's in hiding for her life.

[bloodyminded]

Um, because Ramadan and Hanukkah have nothing to do with Christmas. In fact, Ramadan was in August, so how does it apply? Keep spinning.

Good lord, Shady. You've got to be kidding.

My point was that, to an atheist, the holidays and spiritual festivals of all religions are equivalent.

Your desperation is absurd. And obvious.

Not, not in the world actually. Ever heard of 1.5 billion Muslims.

There are more Christians than Muslims in the world.

And that's fine if Christianity wants to be the main focus of their ads. But it's the only focus. Again, keep spinning.

You've been proven wrong, Shady. Man up and admit it.

Edited December 15, 2010 by bloodyminded

[The_Squid]

Actually it would be more brave. Because of the shit storm you'd create. You'd be targeted by Islamic groups, as well as the media. Just ask the cartoonist who came up with draw Muhammad day. Oh wait you can't, because she's in hiding for her life.

Yeah, ok... aetheists = cowards... oh wait....

Atheist ads liken Allah and Jesus to Bigfoot

Canada's atheistic Centre for Inquiry plans to start a new Toronto bus campaign in January with the headline, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," followed by this list: "Allah, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy, Zeus, Psychics, Christ.

Looking forward to seeing your next post about how brave aethists are...

"You've been proven wrong, man up" haha... thanks for the line...

Edited December 15, 2010 by The_Squid

[DogOnPorch]

The number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is...

A] 2

B] 3

C] 23

D] 23E7

E] None of the above

F] All of the above

[dre]

This is the quality of threads we can expect around here I guess.

[Shady]

This is the quality of threads we can expect around here I guess.

Definitely. Asking logical questions is rare.

[bloodyminded]

Definitely. Asking logical questions is rare.

Let's hear them then.

[Shady]

My point was that, to an atheist, the holidays and spiritual festivals of all religions are equivalent.

Good, then they should mention various ones in their ads. Not just one of one religion. It's a total dodge. And it's pathetic that you keep spinning that just mentioning Christmas means all religions and all holidays. That defies logic and reason. That's like attacking General Motors but saying you mean all car companies. It's nonsensical.

There are more Christians than Muslims in the world.

Not any more.

[bloodyminded]

Good, then they should mention various ones in their ads. Not just one of one religion. It's a total dodge. And it's pathetic that you keep spinning that just mentioning Christmas means all religions and all holidays. That defies logic and reason. That's like attacking General Motors but saying you mean all car companies. It's nonsensical.

All atheists, by definition, hold Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Norse mythology in the same position as Christianity.

You know this; why pretend otherwise?

And what of the Squid's post about the upcoming ad campaign planned for next month:

Canada's atheistic Centre for Inquiry plans to start a new Toronto bus campaign in January with the headline, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," followed by this list: "Allah, Bigfoot, UFOs, Homeopathy, Zeus, Psychics, Christ.

Does this not rather undermine your claim (which was already weak)?

Not any more.

Yes, any more. Christians comprise an estimated 2 billion people....possibly more.

Edited December 15, 2010 by bloodyminded

[GostHacked]

Good, then they should mention various ones in their ads. Not just one of one religion. It's a total dodge. And it's pathetic that you keep spinning that just mentioning Christmas means all religions and all holidays. That defies logic and reason. That's like attacking General Motors but saying you mean all car companies. It's nonsensical.

Not any more.

Well if you are in the US for example, you are going to be talking about Christianity for the most part. So all holidays in North American for that matter are really Christian based. So in terms of North America, when talking about religion, you are generally talking about Christianity. I think you are one that also said that the US and Canada are Christian nations.

So you gotta target the audience that is present. The bible belt would have ads directed towards them. IN other places it would be targeted for Jews or Muslims. If you know how advertising works, it's the same process and effect. Targeted advertisement based on the audience you want to target the ad to.

[The_Squid]

Good, then they should mention various ones in their ads. Not just one of one religion. It's a total dodge.

Well?

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20101202/atheist-bus-ads-101202/

"Why is belief in Bigfoot dismissed as delusional while belief in Allah and Christ is respected and revered? All of these claims are equally extraordinary and demand critical examination," says the campaign's website, www.extraordinary-claims.com.

I think a retraction of the Opening Post is in order....

Edited December 15, 2010 by The_Squid

[bloodyminded]

Well?

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20101202/atheist-bus-ads-101202/

I think a retraction of the Opening Post is in order....

Suuuure, that's likely.

[Michael Hardner]

The number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is...

A] 2

B] 3

C] 23

D] 23E7

E] None of the above

F] All of the above

Number of dogs on the porch is ?

[dre]

Definitely. Asking logical questions is rare.

Your "logical question" is based on a fake premise that exists only in your mind.

Dont you have any pride in the integrity and honesty of your thought process?

[bloodyminded]

What's funniest about this thread is that Shady posts things about what atheists will or won't say...as if they're some foreign entity to which he has no direct access. American Democrats, say, or single mothers, or other sinister creatures of which opinions can only be formed after they've been discussed on right wing blogs.

But there are atheists right here, on this board. Several.

I'm an atheist.

And I tell Shady--explicitly tell him--that I see no distinction that matters between the myths of, say, Christianity and Islam.

So yes, certainly I think Islam is not "the truth." And no, I don't believe for one second that Mohammad was God's prophet; I think it's a preposterous notion.

And yet, it doesn't matter if I--an atheist--says this....because to Shady, atheists refuse to say it!

When someone is intentionally blind, you cannot reason with him.

Edited December 15, 2010 by bloodyminded