Kory Teneycke hot under the collar

lukin · September 4, 2010

Waldo doesn't deal with truths. He's a typical lefty... wants to silence those who disagree with him before they get a chance to speak. that is what this is all about. the left doesn't like ANY opposition.

waldo · September 4, 2010

All I know is that the media is reporting about some 'secret meeting', anything I or any one else say is speculation and hypothetical.
It's not 'Fox News North', it's Sun TV, another deliberate misnomer.

scriblett, the cbc Power & Politics video shows the avaaz.org representative asking Teneycke what was discussed at the meeting you now acknowledge was secret. Teneycke wouldn't answer the question... care to speculate or offer a hypothetical assessment as to why Teneycke wouldn't answer that question?

apparently, the 'Fox News North' label really angers Teneycke. :lol:

waldo · September 4, 2010

Waldo doesn't deal with truths. He's a typical lefty... wants to silence those who disagree with him before they get a chance to speak. that is what this is all about. the left doesn't like ANY opposition.

lukin, buddy... certainly no one wants to silence your truth. Here, how about you have a go:

... just why did/would Harper & Tenecyke meet secretly (March 30, in New York) with the founder of Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, and the head of Fox News, Roger Ailes... a meeting that only came to light when it was unearthed recently by Canadian Press reporter Bruce Cheadle. Was that an appropriate action for a sitting Prime Minister of Canada to take... just what do you think was being discussed? Just another part of the Harper hidden agenda uncovered - ya think?

capricorn · September 4, 2010

Since it was secret we don't know what was discussed, anything we say is hypothetical musing.

Teneycke said the Quebecor venture was not discussed at the luncheon. He was there so he should know. I'm inclined to believe him more than the wild, uninformed speculations put forward by the fiery waldo.

scribblet · September 4, 2010

Teneycke said the Quebecor venture was not discussed at the luncheon. He was there so he should know. I'm inclined to believe him more than the wild, uninformed speculations put forward by the fiery waldo.

This is all part of the campaign to stifle free speech and Sun TV. Heaven help Canadians should have access to an alternative view point. Why is the left so hell bent on stopping Sun TV and free speech as this is only showing how determined they are to shut out anything but liberal speak.

Here's a newsflash, they can turn off the TV, change the channel, but no, no one else should have the right to watch it because they don't agree with it. This whole mess has actually given us one thing, the insight into what the left really wants, and it ain't pretty.

capricorn · September 4, 2010

This is all part of the campaign to stifle free speech and Sun TV. Heaven help Canadians should have access to an alternative view point. Why is the left so hell bent on stopping Sun TV and free speech as this is only showing how determined they are to shut out anything but liberal speak.

Here's a newsflash, they can turn off the TV, change the channel, but no, no one else should have the right to watch it because they don't agree with it. This whole mess has actually given us one thing, the insight into what the left really wants, and it ain't pretty.

All this outrage and indignation unleashed even before viewing one second or minute of Sun TV news coverage. Whatever could they be afraid of? :lol:

waldo · September 4, 2010

Teneycke said the Quebecor venture was not discussed at the luncheon. He was there so he should know. I'm inclined to believe him more than the wild, uninformed speculations put forward by the fiery waldo.

more of your personalization - hey?

I expect you pulled that Teneycke denial from this article... I'm particularly taken with Soudas' follow-up comment - very, uhhh... informative!:

Asked what was discussed, PMO spokesman Dimitri Soudas responded by email that "the prime minister meets with a wide range of people from the business, cultural, telecommunication and other sectors when travelling or here at home."

of course the article also highlights just how Canadian Press reporter Cheadle discovered the meeting occurred... because Ari Fleischer (former press secretary to George Bush), who was hired by Harper's PMO, reported the meeting as a part of his mandatory disclosures to the U.S. Justice Department. But the article gets better when we read of the lobbying efforts of Quebecor Media Inc.'s President and CEO, Pierre Karl Peladeau... meeting directly with Harper (twice) along with senior Conservative cabinet ministers such as Jim Flaherty, Tony Clement and James Moore. Free speech stifling!!! :lol:

scribblet · September 4, 2010

All this outrage and indignation unleashed even before viewing one second or minute of Sun TV news coverage. Whatever could they be afraid of?

Gee, I don't really know, alternate opinions, diverse news, non liberal speak LOL very telling indeed isn't it.

waldo · September 4, 2010

Gee, I don't really know, alternate opinions, diverse news, non liberal speak LOL very telling indeed isn't it.

what's very telling is your continued deflection... away from the Harper/Teneycke meeting with the Fox News founder, Rupert Murdoch & the head of Fox News, Roger Ailes... deflection away from Dimitri Soudas' refusal to indicate what was discussed at the meeting... deflection away from Harper meeting with Quebecor Media Inc.'s President and CEO, Pierre Karl Peladeau... deflection away from Stephen "controlling the message" Harper - hey?

scribblet · September 4, 2010

Really, again, anything we say is speculation and supposition, no one knows, and so what if there was a meeting, there's no reason why we shouldn't have conservative news channel.

waldo · September 4, 2010

Really, again, anything we say is speculation and supposition, no one knows, and so what if there was a meeting, there's no reason why we shouldn't have conservative news channel.

oh my! So what if there was a meeting that involved the sitting Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, and his communications director, Kory Teneycke, with Fox News head honchos... so what if shortly after Teneycke left to start up "Fox News North"... so what if the sitting Prime Minister of Canada has multiple meetings with Quebecor Media Inc.'s President and CEO, Pierre Karl Peladeau. Obviously, to you, you see no conflict of interest, you see no suggestions that influence peddling could be construed, you see no examples or suggestions of impropriety. You deflect to suggest concerned observers are "stifling free speech"... to bring forward what you describe as a "conservative news channel", just how much does your brand of free speech cost?

Keepitsimple · September 4, 2010

We're in Canada - not the states.....and if Sun TV somehow ends up embodying the opinions of Cory Teneyke - then we could do a lot worse. Sure he's a Conservative, but his opinions have been fairly well presented and certainly are not outrageous. It would be refreshing to see counterpoints to the partisan CBC or the bland media in general. There's been some talk about Canadians losing interest in politics - perhaps finally presenting more sides to an argument will spur some engagement. The last two "issues" offer a good example of how the media lets the public down by not providing a full context for Canadians to make informed decisions:

1) The census......why has the media not framed this in the context that other Western countries have moved - or are moving - in the same direction, for the same reasons? Why have they not compared the census to other voluntary polls that are supposeded accurate to a small discrepancy, 19 out of 20 times. Both of these facts form part of the context......but of course, a reasoned debate doesn't sell papers - it's not controversial enough.

2) The Long Gun Registry......why has the media not focused on the failure of the handgun Registry and the fact that handguns are used illegally and murderously in all of our major cities - in spite of the fact that handguns have been registered since 1934? Why does the media continue to spout that the Long Gun Registry is accessed 11,000 times a day - when it's common knowledge that requests for names, addresses, police records, and gun licenses (among othersw) AUTOMATICALLY create a "hit" on the Registry? Why does the media report that the Registry would reduce suicides and domestic murders as if to say - whoops, I can't kill myself because they'll know it was my gun! ....and, you're lucky Darlin' - I won't kill you because this gun's registered.

3) And why not throw in a third just for good measure - Abortion. A detailed poll found that more than two-thirds of Canadians DID NOT KNOW that Canada has no abortion law.

If Sun TV is actually able to follow through and get a license, it would be marvellous (and entertaining) to see reasonable differing opinions play out in the media.

Edited September 4, 2010 by Keepitsimple

Smallc · September 4, 2010

1) The census......why has the media not framed this in the context that other Western countries have moved - or are moving - in the same direction, for the same reasons?

Because then, they would be lying.

bloodyminded · September 4, 2010

I have no issue--none at all--with a "conservative news channel."

But the cherished belief that we are overrun by "left-wing media" seems to me quite a wonderful joke.

Keepitsimple · September 4, 2010

Because then, they would be lying.

And it is a lie because? Canada's Left often uses the Nordic countries as socialist models - so they are a good place to start:

Denmark - discontinued traditional censuses in 1970 and now rely on data from other registries.

Iceland - discontinued in 1952.

Netherlands - discontinued in 1981 and now use data from other registries.....citing privacy issues.

Sweden - discontinued in 1990 and now use other registries

But also:

Germany discontinued theirs in 1987

United Kingdom - currently planning a census in 2011 which appears to be their last. They are examining alternative ways of gathering information.

There's a trend underway - but Canada has taken only a baby step. Even with the NHS, it would appear that Canada has one of the most - if not the most - comprehensive data-gathering censuses in the world.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census

Jack Weber · September 4, 2010

I have no issue--none at all--with a "conservative news channel."

But the cherished belief that we are overrun by "left-wing media" seems to me quite a wonderful joke.

Yes...There are absolutely no conservative,right wing media outlets anywhere in this country.And if there are,they are so buried away(probably by the sleazy crypto-communist left wing media),it's almost impossible to be found...

We are awash in a sleazy socialist media environment,particularily the publicly funded CBC(Communist Broadcasting Corporation).We need soemthing like Fox News to counterbalance the obvious imbalance within the Canadian media...God bless Cory Teneycke,Stephen Harper,Arie Fleischer,and,Roger Ailes!!!Now that Guy Giorno is leaving to spend more time with his family,he should have a show so he could show those leftwing nutjobs a thing or two,and teach then a lesson...

.... :lol: :lol: I could'nt keep a straight face any longer...

If those that require right wing invective pablum fed to their brains because they are unable to seperate the chaffe from the wheat at the CBC(or anywhere else),they should have to part with their money and pay for the "priviledge" of said con pablum....They would also be promoting the personal freedom/free market ethos they feel is so wonderful,at the same time...

It's a win/win!!!

Edited September 4, 2010 by Jack Weber

lukin · September 4, 2010

Future Sun News employee David Akin was on P&P yesterday. I didn't hear anything hateful or irrational from him. He seemed like a journalist who tells it like he sees it. I don't understand why the left is so frightened of Sun News.

Do lefties like waldo FEAR David Akin and his opinions?

scribblet · September 4, 2010

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If those that require right wing invective pablum fed to their brains because they are unable to seperate the chaffe from the wheat at the CBC(or anywhere else),they should have to part with their money and pay for the "priviledge" of said con pablum....They would also be promoting the personal freedom/free market ethos they feel is so wonderful,at the same time...

It's a win/win!!!

Sure, and while we are at it, let's take away preferred status from CBC right now, why should we be required to pay for the privilege of listening to their left wing invective pablum. Really, get a grip, Canadians shouldn't be told what they can watch or can't watch, maybe we should be petitioning to disband the CRTC. Heck, Canadians have to put their hands up to go to the washroom.

What is the left wing afraid of, why the hysteria over a conservative news channel they don't have to watch, do their TVs not have a remote or an off button. sheez

Jack Weber · September 4, 2010

Sure, and while we are at it, let's take away preferred status from CBC right now, why should we be required to pay for the privilege of listening to their left wing invective pablum. Really, get a grip, Canadians shouldn't be told what they can watch or can't watch, maybe we should be petitioning to disband the CRTC. Heck, Canadians have to put their hands up to go to the washroom.

What is the left wing afraid of, why the hysteria over a conservative news channel they don't have to watch, do their TVs not have a remote or an off button. sheez

If ya' want it...Pay for it!

Pretty simple,right?Because otherwise,you're obviously so oppressed in this country with no other conservative media outlets?

nicky10013 · September 4, 2010

Sure, and while we are at it, let's take away preferred status from CBC right now, why should we be required to pay for the privilege of listening to their left wing invective pablum. Really, get a grip, Canadians shouldn't be told what they can watch or can't watch, maybe we should be petitioning to disband the CRTC. Heck, Canadians have to put their hands up to go to the washroom.

What is the left wing afraid of, why the hysteria over a conservative news channel they don't have to watch, do their TVs not have a remote or an off button. sheez

I don't think the left wing is afraid of anyone or any channel. Afterall, in a society where most papers and most talk radio and even most TV is from the conservative standpoint, we don't have any need to cloister ourselves with only approved messages to calm our nerves. On the otherhand, why is it that Conservatives self-censor? They're obviously afraid they're going to hear things they don't like which actually make sense.

bloodyminded · September 4, 2010

Sure, and while we are at it, let's take away preferred status from CBC right now, why should we be required to pay for the privilege of listening to their left wing invective pablum. Really, get a grip, Canadians shouldn't be told what they can watch or can't watch, maybe we should be petitioning to disband the CRTC. Heck, Canadians have to put their hands up to go to the washroom.

What is the left wing afraid of, why the hysteria over a conservative news channel they don't have to watch, do their TVs not have a remote or an off button. sheez

Again (and yet again, and again): what "left wing invective pablum"? To what, specifically, are you referring?

Jack Weber · September 4, 2010

Again (and yet again, and again): what "left wing invective pablum"? To what, specifically, are you referring?

I think we are about to get the ,"I don't want my tax dollars going to things I don't agree with!!!" arguement...

Plus...Watch for the "They put on Michael Moore and Al Gore documentaries on CBC Newsworld!!!",stuff..

Edited September 4, 2010 by Jack Weber

nicky10013 · September 4, 2010

I think we are about to get the ,"I don't want my tax dollars going to things I don't agree with!!!" arguement...

Yep. Facts are a bloody nuissance.

Hazeleyes · September 4, 2010

Waldo, time to take off the tinfoil hat. You're delusional.

Does everyone realize George Soros's organization is behind this petition? Anyone unfamiliar with Soros needs to do some serious research on this man and see how he tries to manipulate everything in this world. Why is Soros so interested in keeping this channel off Canadian airwaves? Why are canadians starting a petition started by Americans?

Sorry Waldo, but you seriously don't get it.

It would appear he/she doesn't get your point but despite posing a number of questions no one from the other side of the debate has stepped forward to answer Waldo. When both sides in an argument refuse to answer the others points it goes nowhere.

scribblet · September 4, 2010

Again (and yet again, and again): what "left wing invective pablum"? To what, specifically, are you referring?

Sigh - it was in response to the other guy saying - right wing invective pablum

There is no answer for Waldo because we don't know what happened or what was discussed at the alleged meeting, anything we say is strictly speculation and conjecture.

Edited September 4, 2010 by scriblett