M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 What do you think would happen if we brought a billion people into Canada ? How about even a million ? Given the post you have responded to, he thinks we have unlimited food and money...which is what most kids who live with mommy and daddy think. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Michael Hardner Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Given the post you have responded to, he thinks we have unlimited food and money...which is what most kids who live with mommy and daddy think. Or that wealth is a pot of gold to be shared, not a flowing ethereal river of gold that dries up if it is dammed up. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
PIK Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) you cant understand why someone would want to spread the wealth around, get better standards of living for people all over the world... instead of just our pale hides... isnt that what matters? theres no reason why everyone all over the world shouldnt have access to free healthcare, abundant food and just conditions. We can feed the entire world over, in fact we have enough food in north america to alleviate the hunger of africa entire... just think at all the good that would do... but no, the people we'd be helping are black... much better to keep them suffering and force them to starve. Africa is one of the richest counntries in the world ,isn'it? So why are'nt the rich africans helping out their brothers instead of alway us. Edited August 17, 2010 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 well in short... absolutely! the objective should be to eliminate the disparity between rich and poor, what ever happened to caring about justice and your fellow human beings? Oh wait let me guess... to unwashed for you to consider them your equal right> right... the unwarranted fear that bringing in millions of people from poor countries will somehow make our country poor is baseless and is mainly motivated by xenophobic racists. If we can accommodate 5 million, the huge size of our country can take in 100 times as much, and once we convert these people to our way of life, our economy and the economy of the world will be better off for it... Are these tamils coming to canada to move to fort mcmurray to work in the oil fields or maybe up north to work in the mines or fishing boats are they going to the prairies to start farming or are they going to all move to toronto and get on the system or do they have jobs waiting for them or maybe just to help start up a govermnet in exile . Canadians need to wake up. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Ratio Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 What do you think would happen if we brought a billion people into Canada ? How about even a million ? canada will benefit by having to accommodate the newcomers with new schoold, new jobs etc, on top of it as the newcommers will be comming from diverse countries this will strengthen canada by allowing them to get closer to the nations from which they're from. the immigrants would rise their quality of life enabling them to give the wealth over back to their home countries, making the entire world increase its standard of living... oh but wait... that would give equality to dark people... so of course we in racist canada should be against it. Quote
Smallc Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Africa is one of the richest counntries in the world ,isn'it? WTF? Quote
Ratio Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Africa is one of the richest counntries in the world ,isn'it? So why are'nt the rich africans helping out their brothers instead of alway us. what an ignorant statement, years of white opression and theft has left africa depleted in resources combined with a bad education system. Its our fault that this is so... its up to us to change that, if it means giving them money back then so be it... justice will be had. Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 canada will benefit by having to accommodate the newcomers with new schoold(sic), new jobs etc, on top of it as the newcommers(sic) will be comming(sic) from diverse countries this will strengthen canada by allowing them to get closer to the nations from which they're from. the immigrants would rise(sic) their quality of life enabling them to give the wealth over back to their home countries, making the entire world increase its standard of living... oh but wait... that would give equality to dark people... so of course we in racist canada should be against it. Why would you foist the new schoold (sic) on the newcoomers (sic) when clearly it is failing... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Ratio Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Why would you foist the new schoold (sic) on the newcoomers (sic) when clearly it is failing... very funny, but our schools are doing better then ever, I don't subscribe to the racist belief that our schools are failing because of increased diversity. If anything cultural and racial diversity stimulates honest competition, which has helped our school system. Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 very funny, but our schools are doing better then ever, I don't subscribe to the racist belief that our schools are failing because of increased diversity. Niether do I. I was referencing your inability to spell and form a coherent sentence and argument. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
with_distinction Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) Good article on the Globe Why we can’t turn away the Tamil ships Click Cliffs: People against the refugee status of the Tamils have no valid argument as it would be contrary to our obligations under international law, the Refugee Convention, and the Charter of Rights Edited August 17, 2010 by with_distinction Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Good article on the Globe Why we can’t turn away the Tamil ships Click Cliffs: People against the refugee status of the Tamils have no valid argument as it would be contrary to our obligations under international law, the Refugee Convention, and the Charter of Rights We have to shoot ourselves in the head. Afterall, we bought the gun AND loaded the bullets. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 People against the refugee status of the Tamils have no valid argument as it would be contrary to our obligations under international law, the Refugee Convention, and the Charter of Rights Which is all the more reason why these vessels should be intercepted in international waters, the human cargo transfered to an outward bound vessel and repatriated, the officers and crew arrested and the vessel siezed and sold at auction. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Smallc Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Which is all the more reason why these vessels should be intercepted in international waters, the human cargo transfered to an outward bound vessel and repatriated, the officers and crew arrested and the vessel siezed and sold at auction. On what grounds? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 On what grounds? Human smuggling and indentured servitude would be a start. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 On what grounds? Because human trafficing and unloading illegal immigrants on our shores is not in our national interests....I mean...why not ask why we have a customs at the boarder? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Smallc Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Because human trafficing and unloading illegal immigrants on our shores is not in our national interests....I mean...why not ask why we have a customs at the boarder? Well, first we'll have to prove something before we start boarding ships in international waters. Quote
nicky10013 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Because human trafficing and unloading illegal immigrants on our shores is not in our national interests....I mean...why not ask why we have a customs at the boarder? They're not illegal immigrants. You can't claim refugee status outside of Canada. They arrived, asked permission to come into port, declared their status and will now have to wait to see what comes of their claim. Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Well, first we'll have to prove something before we start boarding ships in international waters. What would you need to prove? that an cargo ship carrying undocumented humans with no registered destination is heading your way? Surely we don't need to prove anything to anyone with a subpar IQ...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what was going down. And if they have a problem witrh that, let the ship owners take us to court in the hague. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
nicky10013 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 Human smuggling and indentured servitude would be a start. So sending them back to Sri Lanka solves that problem how? Seems to me that letting them in gives them a better chance. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 They're not illegal immigrants. You can't claim refugee status outside of Canada. They arrived, asked permission to come into port, declared their status and will now have to wait to see what comes of their claim. Yes...we're painfully aware of this. As are they. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 They're not illegal immigrants. You can't claim refugee status outside of Canada. They arrived, asked permission to come into port, declared their status and will now have to wait to see what comes of their claim. Fair enough, all the more reason to not let them in at all. If they want to declare refugee status, let them do it somewhere else. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 So sending them back to Sri Lanka solves that problem how? Seems to me that letting them in gives them a better chance. You own a sweat shop by chance? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 What would you need to prove? that an cargo ship carrying undocumented humans with no registered destination is heading your way? There's nothing illegal unless we can prove something...terrorism, human smuggling...but we have to prove something. Being on a boat and claiming refugee status isn't a crime. Quote
nicky10013 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Posted August 17, 2010 What would you need to prove? that an cargo ship carrying undocumented humans with no registered destination is heading your way? Surely we don't need to prove anything to anyone with a subpar IQ...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what was going down. And if they have a problem witrh that, let the ship owners take us to court in the hague. Your twisting the definition of "undocumented." From what I've heard, these people have documents, just not legal exit visas because, well, they were fleeing an oppressive government that didn't want them to leave. Quote
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