Illegal to video tape the police in public?

[dre]

Thought this was interesting and scary...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008566,00.html?hpt=T2

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes...malformed links are very scary!

[Sir Bandelot]

The link didn't work, because it has commas in it. You have to make an HTML link using the Editor. here it is:

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[bush_cheney2004]

The link didn't work, because it has commas in it. You have to make an HTML link using the Editor. here it is:

Link

Yes...that's what "malformed" means.

[dre]

The link didn't work, because it has commas in it. You have to make an HTML link using the Editor. here it is:

Link

Thanx man.

[Sir Bandelot]

Yes...that's what "malformed" means.

You would know

[bush_cheney2004]

You would know

Of course....I live there....no links required! This is from last month's news cycle (pun intended).

[BubberMiley]

Of course....I live there...

Maryland, Minnesota, Regina. Who bothers to pay attention?

[Jack Weber]

Maryland, Minnesota, Regina. Who bothers to pay attention?

But she has huge....Tracts of land!!!!

[bush_cheney2004]

Maryland, Minnesota, Regina. Who bothers to pay attention?

You do.

[Shady]

You do.

Checkmate!

Bubbles owned again.

[GostHacked]

It should remain legal to video tape police. If it's in public then there is no problem.

[bush_cheney2004]

It should remain legal to video tape police. If it's in public then there is no problem.

OK...what about wiretap laws and two-party consent?

[Sir Bandelot]

How is shouting and fighting in a public street a private conversation? Doesn't sound like it would stand in a court of law. But who knows these days. If it holds up, it's a technicality that allows them to continue doing it without fear of legal repurcussion.

Nice to see how the police are concerned first and foremost with getting away with their crimes, which seems the primary motivation for using these laws. No wonder people have no confidence in the system.

[Bryan]

A clean Police Department would welcome if not encourage the video. It's evidence that any accusations of impropriety or brutality are unfounded.

Any police department who does not want their officers actions recorded is admitting in advance that they are corrupt.

[Remiel]

The idea that you could go to prison for 16 years for an illegal wiretap is bizarre in and of itself.

Anywhere it is illegal to video tape the police is no more than a hairs breath away from some sort of police state.

[Guest American Woman]

Anywhere it is illegal to video tape the police is no more than a hairs breath away from some sort of police state.

Tourists in London may have to think twice before snapping holiday pictures of the iconic British bobby.

A new anti-terrorism law went into effect Monday that could effectively bar photographers from taking pictures of police or military personnel in Britain.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/16/britain-cops-photgraphers.html#ixzz0vh6saqUX

I had read that Canada was to pass a similar law, but haven't read anything about the actual passage.

[Remiel]

I had read that Canada was to pass a similar law, but haven't read anything about the actual passage.

If Canada has a law like that, or is getting one, then it must be opposed.

[Guest American Woman]

If Canada has a law like that, or is getting one, then it must be opposed.

The article I linked to about the law in the UK is from 2009, so if Canada were to pass the same, or similar law, seems to me it would have been passed by now. I just find it strange that the article I read said that both the UK and Canada were going to pass such a law. I wondered if your association with the U.K. would have anything to do with it.....

The article also spoke of making it illegal to call the police names, and I was able to find this link in reference to that: Montreal police ask city to make insults illegal

As for the original topic, even the Attorney General of Mass. has come out and said that he doesn't think taking videos breaks any wiretap laws. I doubt this case will end in a conviction, if it even goes to court.

[Bonam]

I dunno where the concern and justification for such laws arises from in Canada. However, in some countries around the world I can definitely see it being justified. Getting surveillance on a police or military facility or group of personnel is a potentially critical piece of intelligence to carry out a successful terrorist attack.

[GostHacked]

OK...what about wiretap laws and two-party consent?

The whole incident is because an off duty cop pulled a gun on a guy who was filming his ride on his motorcycle.

He pulled his gun before announcing he was a cop. Rider has no way to know he is a cop

No badge was flashed, so no way to tell he was a cop.

The cop is lucky he did not get shot himself.

The cop seemed to have a short fuse and could have seriously hurt the rider or killed him.

I don't want short fused cops on the force. I need someone who can keep a cool head under pressure. This one could not even keep his cool off-duty, what is he like on-duty?

If it's alright to have all these security cameras all over the city to keep our behavior in check, then we can tape cops for the same purpose. I mean how many times unknowingly are you being taped while making your way around the city? Store shop security cameras, traffic cameras, ......

To protect a citizens rights, we should keep the ability to tape the cops. They don't want to be seen in a bad light, not like a cop's reputation is tarnished already for this kind of behavior, but the rest of the boys in blue will help cover it up. This is not right, and not fair.

[BubberMiley]

Checkmate!

Bubbles owned again.

Really? Because he tried to pretend he's from Maryland?

I guess you're still smarting from the countless times I've pulled your pants down. Sorry. You should try wearing a belt.

[GostHacked]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008566,00.html

This cop clearly acted in the wrong and should be charged with actions unbecoming of a law enforcement official. Again, the cop is lucky to not have a hole in him somewhere.

Anthony Graber, a Maryland Air National Guard staff sergeant, faces up to 16 years in prison. His crime? He videotaped his March encounter with a state trooper who pulled him over for speeding on a motorcycle. Then Graber put the video — which could put the officer in a bad light — up on YouTube.

16 years he could face for this incident. That is pretty disgusting. The guy was out for a ride and was taping his ride, the cop got in the way and caused his own issue. If the cop wanted to do it legit, then he would have pulled him over witha siren and identify himself as a cop BEFORE pulling the gun. This video shows how wrong the cop is in every aspect. But yet this guy on the bike is facing a possible 16 years in jail.

[eyeball]

In addition to reducing crime and making convictions easier, cop-cams would give us the means to investigate and resolve incidents like the death of Robert Dziekanski much more quickly.

Next in line for public souveillance would be the political masters of our police.

If we concentrate more transparency and accountability at the top of our society we might see more honesty and integrity trickling down through the rest. I'm betting this would reduce crime faster than anything we've ever seen in human history.

Orwell had it backwards, the Telescreens should be aimed the other way.

[bush_cheney2004]

....16 years he could face for this incident. That is pretty disgusting. The guy was out for a ride and was taping his ride, the cop got in the way and caused his own issue. If the cop wanted to do it legit, then he would have pulled him over witha siren and identify himself as a cop BEFORE pulling the gun. This video shows how wrong the cop is in every aspect. But yet this guy on the bike is facing a possible 16 years in jail.

LOL! Obviously you have never been pulled over for speeding in Maryland, one of the most aggressive traffic enforcement juridictions in the USA. The idiot on the bike posted his illegal audio recording, and now has some explaining to do.