Happy 420

[Born Free]

Is there a subject that you actually know something about?

You need to pay better attention Morris...his MasterCard and Visa comment was simply a flash of scarcasm.....

[Shwa]

Let's legalize all drugs. Gangs make most of their money off selling drugs, if people are buying drugs legally then gangs would shrink in size for they would lose a lot of funding. Gangs aren't GM, they can't just go to the government and ask for a bailout to continue operations.

Let me guess: you wrote this right after smoking a spliff yes? Or are you on to crack now?

[Muddy]

Does anybody around you drink? Smoke? Does that not drift over your hedges too? I find it hard to believe that pot smokers in your neighbourhood are "rowdy" by any means and disturbing the peace as it were. I somehow suspect that the filthy language is not a matter of the pot as much as the personalities that live near you. Be that as it may, you can't do much of anything about what someone else does on their private property, unless you can demonstrate that they are disturbing the peace, or causing a general disruption. I'm afraid smoke doesn't meet these criteria.

Thats your answer to an old guys problem! Right now I can threaten to call the cops . But if it becomes legal then I will have no recourse.

What really bothers me is the guy next door is a real nice guy until his pals show up. Then between the loud music and the breeze in the right direction my wife and I must retreat into the house and miss a nice evening on our deck.

Funny how my rights mean nothing now that I am reaching ancient. There was a time when I could deal with thugish behaviour if it came to it. Now I have to take it.I guess thats the price for getting old.

[Shwa]

Thats your answer to an old guys problem! Right now I can threaten to call the cops . But if it becomes legal then I will have no recourse.

What really bothers me is the guy next door is a real nice guy until his pals show up. Then between the loud music and the breeze in the right direction my wife and I must retreat into the house and miss a nice evening on our deck.

Funny how my rights mean nothing now that I am reaching ancient. There was a time when I could deal with thugish behaviour if it came to it. Now I have to take it.I guess thats the price for getting old.

If he is a "real nice guy" and a responsible neighbour then it would seem he would be approachable and amenable to your concerns. Otherwise, nothing harshes a buzz more than a couple of beefy straight edge cops snooping around for illegal substances. So don't threaten, just make the call.

I have a neighbour in a similar situation. She is reasonable, accomodating and not a nasty person at all. But the "real nice people" on the other side started getting real nasty when she asked them to knock off the pot parties in their backyard for the same reasons you cite. Luckily it was a rental property and she went after the landlord instead.

I noticed the 'For Sale' sign on the front lawn this week and the renters seem to be gone.

The other side of it is that pot smoke is no more harmful than someone putting on the smoker for an afternoon BBQ. In fact, I would prefer smelling pot smoke over someone grilling some nasty fish. The loud music is one thing, but if they can be nice about it, maybe head down to your local head shop and buy them a nice neighbourly water bong. Or tell them to switch to hash in the summer.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Shwa

[BubberMiley]

I don't think anyone should have to smell buring pot on their own deck if they don't want to. A little consideration from the neighbours would go a long way.

But it goes to show just how useless the prohibition laws are anyway, and how most people who oppose legalization are only interested because they're miffed with someone who was inconsiderate while smoking pot around them.

[DrGreenthumb]

Thats your answer to an old guys problem! Right now I can threaten to call the cops . But if it becomes legal then I will have no recourse.

What really bothers me is the guy next door is a real nice guy until his pals show up. Then between the loud music and the breeze in the right direction my wife and I must retreat into the house and miss a nice evening on our deck.

Funny how my rights mean nothing now that I am reaching ancient. There was a time when I could deal with thugish behaviour if it came to it. Now I have to take it.I guess thats the price for getting old.

Try talking to your neighbor when his friends aren't there. Most of us pot people are considerate, and I'm sure its not his intention to be a pain in your ass. If the yard party is getting loud and rowdy I suspect alcohol may also be a factor. A little give and take on both your parts could help build a lasting friendship and mutual respect. You were young once to and enjoyed music and fun outdoors with your friends at some point too I'm sure. You might be surprised you could make a valueable friendship that is beneficial to both of you. Young whippersnapper might even help you with some of your yard work that is tough for you in your old age, like climbing on the roof to clean your rain gutters, or shovelling the snow from your walk. You might be surprised at just how accomidating your neighbor could be if you show him a little respect. Calling the cops on him and causing him grief and family problems over a little pot would be a real dick move.

[eyeball]

Vancouver to Vote on Smoking Ban in Public Parks and Beaches

Source

Now there's some righteous justice for you.

Happy 420 indeed.

[bush_cheney2004]

...... Calling the cops on him and causing him grief and family problems over a little pot would be a real dick move.

He will likely already have family problems, just like my geef jerking neighbor. I don't kiss a doper's ass...let them explain the dope, noise ordnance violations, illegal fireworks, underage drinking, and knocked up daughter to the cops!

[Dave_ON]

Otherwise, nothing harshes a buzz more than a couple of beefy straight edge cops snooping around for illegal substances. So don't threaten, just make the call.

If it's private property there's nothing the cops can do without a warrant. They can't even be on his property without permission and if asked to leave they have to comply. My thought is the cops wouldn't even bother to show honestly, unless of course they received numerous calls for noise violations. Even then if they show up on an unrelated matter, without a warrant they won't be doing any "snooping" at all without the owners express permission. At most they can address the noise complaint and nothing more.

[Muddy]

Well in retaliation I have considered buying a great speaker system outside and start with revelry at seven am! Then followed by some good marching music.

[bush_cheney2004]

Well in retaliation I have considered buying a great speaker system outside and start with revelry at seven am! Then followed by some good marching music.

Good idea....let the drunks and dopers get into a nice buzzed sleep and then hit 'em with John Philip Sousa marching band music through JBL horned monitors. Hell, just run the lawnmower sans muffler. Noise is legal 6AM to 10PM in many places!

[Muddy]

Good idea....let the drunks and dopers get into a nice buzzed sleep and then hit 'em with John Philip Sousa marching band music through JBL horned monitors. Hell, just run the lawnmower sans muffler. Noise is legal 6AM to 10PM in many places!

Thanks for the support ,but you know I could not make my other neighbours suffer.

[bush_cheney2004]

Thanks for the support ,but you know I could not make my other neighbours suffer.

I understand what you mean, but the other neighbors are tired of the noise, dope trafficking, vehicle traffic at all hours of the night, litter, etc. I've been hatin' on dopers since junior high school where they start their stupid ass habits and self centered conduct at the expense of other kids just trying to get an education (drug dogs, locker searches, trashed rest rooms, class disruptions, etc,)

Dopers suck!

[Sir Bandelot]

My view is to decriminalize all drugs is the right move, and then to make drug abuse a medical problem, not a criminal problem.

[Sir Bandelot]

I don't think anyone should have to smell buring pot on their own deck if they don't want to. A little consideration from the neighbours would go a long way.

I feel exactly the same way about tobacco smokers. Can't stand to breath in their exahust. Yet we all carry on as if its ok.

Use of any such substances should be confined to a private place where it bothers no one else.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Sir Bandelot

[Muddy]

I feel exactly the same way about tobacco smokers. Can't stand to breath in their exahust. Yet we all carry on as if its ok.

Use of any such substances should be confined to a private place where it bothers no one else.

No I don`t!I don`t think it is OK!

[Sir Bandelot]

No I don`t!I don`t think it is OK!

Good, becasue that stuff is what will kill you. Smoke from Mary Jane smells bad, might even get you a bit high, but doesn't causes no cancer

[M.Dancer]

Smoke from Mary Jane smells bad, might even get you a bit high, but doesn't causes no cancer

The jury is still out on that...

What evidence is there about the link between long-term use of marijuana and cancer?

The quality of the evidence suggesting a link between long-term use of marijuana and cancer is neither as strong nor as comprehensive as the evidence regarding tobacco and cancer. A number of studies have reported an increase in head, neck, lung and throat cancers. To date, no epidemiological studies have consistently confirmed an association between long-term marijuana use and cancer risk because there is no standard amount of THC (the main active ingredient in marijuana) in every marijuana cigarette.

http://www.cancer.ca/canada-wide/how%20you%20can%20help/take%20action/advocacy%20what%20were%20doing/marijuana%20smoking/cancer%20risks%20of%20long-term%20recreational%20use/get%20the%20facts%20frequently%20asked%20questions%20about%20marijuana%20and%20cancer%20risks%20of%20long-term%20recreational%20smoking%20of%20marijuana.aspx?sc_lang=en

[Wilber]

Good, becasue that stuff is what will kill you. Smoke from Mary Jane smells bad, might even get you a bit high, but doesn't causes no cancer

Seems to me the same claim was made about tobacco for several decades.

[Shwa]

If it's private property there's nothing the cops can do without a warrant. They can't even be on his property without permission and if asked to leave they have to comply. My thought is the cops wouldn't even bother to show honestly, unless of course they received numerous calls for noise violations. Even then if they show up on an unrelated matter, without a warrant they won't be doing any "snooping" at all without the owners express permission. At most they can address the noise complaint and nothing more.

I am not sure what country you think you are living in, but cops can be on your property if they have suspicion of illegal activity. And in my nice quiet little nighbourhood, the cops generally respond to noise complaints. The first time or two, a warning, subsequently, they shut the party down.

Besides, I have seen this done so many times and yeah, it is a dick move, but if the neightbour is being a dick in the first place, fair is fair.

[eyeball]

Seems to me the same claim was made about tobacco for several decades.

It's not to late to criminalize it.

Like I said there's nothing worse than a reformed smoker.

Or a reformed anti-prohibitionist.

Edited April 22, 2010 by eyeball

[Wilber]

It's not to late to criminalize it.

Like I said there's nothing worse than a reformed smoker.

Or a reformed anti-prohibitionist.

I'm an ex smoker and it's true I don't like the smell or the mess created in parks and on beaches by discarded butts. In spite of that I believe claims about the dangers of second hand smoke outdoors are mostly bogus. After all, if you are going to ban smoking in public areas for that reason, you should also ban the use of charcoal barbecues and campfires in parks and campsites.

I also believe there is little more useless or dangerous than opinions on the medical effects of substances coming from people who have a vested interest in their use.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Wilber

[Shady]

I think it all comes down to one question. Is society better off with more people getting stoned? The obvious answer is no.

[BubberMiley]

The obvious answer is no.

Whenever someone says something is obvious, it rarely is, and they only do so because they have nothing else to back them up.

[Shady]

Whenever someone says something is obvious, it rarely is, and they only do so because they have nothing else to back them up.

So is it your opinion that society is better off with more people getting high and/or stoned? If so, please explain.