bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 ......She was warned of the differences between speech in Canada and the US. Either way she would not have heeded the warnings. ...OK...so now we can add prior restraint to the list of freedoms you want to curtail. This just gets better and better. What are people like you so damn afraid of? Being offended? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DrGreenthumb Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 The woman is a bigot and a boor. I have no use for people like her. I say let her speak tho, so she can prove what an ass she is to everybody who doesn't already know. The people who flock to her and cheer her on will expose themselves as bigots, and idiots too so there is always that side benefit. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Neither side has done anything smart since the creation of Israel in 1948. I doubt we'd be having this delightful exchange w/o Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_M Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 JJ Walker. That brings back a few memories. Stop...stop...your killing me! This is timeless....still fighting over the same crap today. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Stop...stop...your killing me! This is timeless....still fighting over the same crap today. Nobody would dare today... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Do we need a 3rd thread on this ? Shall we shout it down? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Shall we shout it down? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Shwa Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 What are people like you so damn afraid of? Being offended? No. We're afraid the children might hear. Quote
Wild Bill Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Do we need a 3rd thread on this ? I pondered that, Michael. Especially since I really didn't want to give her that much attention anyway! Still, I believe it's truly a new thread. If I had have posted it in one of the others it could have been considered thread drift. The essential point is some smartass university louts successfully stopped someone's right to free speech. The fact that it was a dillhole like Coulter is irrelevant. It shows that for a frightening large segment of our population, particularly those on the left, free speech is just a fuzzy idea they truly don't understand, that they support only for those who agree with them. I hate to quote Rush Limbaugh but even a stopped clock is right twice a day! He once said that "To a liberal, freedom of speech means the freedom to agree!" Sadly, these yahoos have proven him right! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
wyly Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) I pondered that, Michael. Especially since I really didn't want to give her that much attention anyway! Still, I believe it's truly a new thread. If I had have posted it in one of the others it could have been considered thread drift. The essential point is some smartass university louts successfully stopped someone's right to free speech. The fact that it was a dillhole like Coulter is irrelevant. It shows that for a frightening large segment of our population, particularly those on the left, free speech is just a fuzzy idea they truly don't understand, that they support only for those who agree with them. I hate to quote Rush Limbaugh but even a stopped clock is right twice a day! He once said that "To a liberal, freedom of speech means the freedom to agree!" Sadly, these yahoos have proven him right! the criminal code of Canada disagrees with you...freedom of speech does not include a freedom to spread hatred....the philosophy behind freedom is lost on most of those on the right...learn it or risk losing it your freedom to do as you please ends when it infringes upon another's freedom... U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.-"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Edited March 24, 2010 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
bjre Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 I don't think there is "freedom of speech" in any country in the world. I don't dare to give some of my opinions when I am here in Canada. Like some opinion on some special groups that I am sure most people will think them ridiculous in their deep mind but they simply can not talk about that in public. This is somewhat like what happened in The Emperor's New Clothes. Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Moonlight Graham Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) I have no problem with free speech. When i first heard about this incident i thought it a bit dumb that it was canceled. I originally thought "she's a moron but should be able to talk". However, after just reading some things she's said & what she recently said to a Muslim student at the University of Western Ontario i think she is seriously bordering on hate-speech: LONDON, Ont. -- A 17-year-old Muslim student sparked the testiest exchange and the loudest cheers and jeers at a speech by controversial U.S. conservative Ann Coulter at the University of Western Ontario Monday.After a wide-ranging speech attacking gay rights activists, the mainstream media and the Barack Obama administration, Coulter took questions from an audience clearly divided in its support for her style of attack conservatism. Fatima Al-Dhaher, a political science student from London, rose and spoke about comments Coulter made after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The firebrand Republican had suggested Muslim countries be invaded, their leaders killed and all Muslims converted to Christianity. She later suggested Muslims denied air travel take “flying carpets” instead. “As a 17-year-old student of this university, Muslim, should I be converted to Christianity? Second of all, since I don’t have a magic carpet, what other modes do you suggest,” Al-Dhaher said to loud and sustained applause. “I thought it was just American public schools that produced ignorant people,” Coulter replied, prompting her own round of applause. Coulter then noted many Japanese were converted to Christianity after the Second World War and “we haven’t heard a peep out of them.” To shouts of “Answer the question,” Coulter finally replied “What mode of transportation? Take a camel.” http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/03/22/13322641-qmi.html Coulter is smart in that she knows how to get people talking and how to make a buck. But she is completely immoral as a human being. Anyone who has to say this crap to make a living is morally repugnant. Even if some of it is tongue-and-cheek. Personally i'm glad her ugly face was denied from speaking and i want her out of this country ASAP. She can say whatever she wants in her own country but don't bring your garbage into ours. See ya Ann. The most unfortunately thing is that this gives her even more attention that she loves and will make her more money. Its idiots like this that give Conservatives a bad name. Shame on people like Shady who pay her money to read her trash and to see her speak. Edited March 24, 2010 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Yeah! Another Ann Coulter thread....she is on fire! This is exactly what we expected to happen....GO ANN! ....as for Canada and 'Nam...she was dead wrong. Canada only made billions of dollars selling war materials to the USA during the "conflict", and many individual Canadians fought and died with US forces. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 ...what she recently said to a Muslim student at the University of Western Ontario i think she is seriously bordering on hate-speech Since it was the student who begged the question...the response would have been expected....although I don't know why she didn't mention a dhow... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Since it was the student who begged the question...the response would have been expected....although I don't know why she didn't mention a dhow... In fact, some student's badgered Coulter for an answer, and got exactly what they deserved. Most people don't know this, but camels are believed to have roamed North America too! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Over 20,000 Canadians served in Viet-Nam...just not in Canadian uniforms. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 No. We're afraid the children might hear. So the children can grow up just as close minded and afraid....thus the cycle of stupidity continues. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Over 20,000 Canadians served in Viet-Nam...just not in Canadian uniforms. I find that number hard to believe. Had you said 2,000... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Yup...the Kamloops region of BC is famous for the ol' camels. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 It's actually closer to 30,000 Canadians. Our unsung conflict. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Over 20,000 Canadians served in Viet-Nam...just not in Canadian uniforms. Exactly...and just more history that the PC crowd would have us forget. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 It's actually closer to 30,000 Canadians. Our unsung conflict. More than made up for the American draft dodgers that went to Canada! Such a deal. http://www.vwam.com/vets/allies/canadians.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Exactly...and just more history that the PC crowd would have us forget. Also: see Agent Orange. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 It's actually closer to 30,000 Canadians. Our unsung conflict. I find that number 30% harder to believe... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 More than made up for the American draft dodgers that went to Canada! Such a deal. http://www.vwam.com/vets/allies/canadians.html I estimate that of the many thousands who served in the U.S. Vietnam-era military, some 12,00 Canadians actually served in Vietnam itself. Bad editing leaves plenty of wiggle room...1,200? ... 12,000? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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