THE pope says he is sorry.

[Oleg Bach]

The singing rat RAT-singer..says he is sorry to all the young men who are old and powerless because of some strange soul stealing sodmoization policy they tacitly kept for a thousand years - vampires of the most crazed kind who actually believe that soul sucking and but banging actually brings about some sort of eternal vigor and youth - for wacko priests - that should have at least married like those in the eastern church..You would think that they would have figured it out after all this time that men need woman - and Jesus made love to woman - and had a father that made love to his mother - smoke and mirrors and stinky paganism seems to be coming to an end - Christ mentioned capital punishment ONCE.."Any one who harms one of these little ones will wish that they were never born and have a mill stone tied to their necks and be tossed into the sea: If the pope was sorry they would not have done it.

[Shady]

You would think that they would have figured it out after all this time that men need woman

So instead they seek out little boys? Why not little girls? Why not women in general? I think this is more of a homosexual issue than anything else.

Message to gay men. If you're involved as a Priest in the church, leave, you don't belong there!!! Go get help if you're that messed up over your sexuality. You're born that way. Becoming a member of the church won't cure you.

[Sir Bandelot]

Probably more because women are abhorred by the catholic church as soul-less abominations. Hence there are no female priests.

[scorpio]

So instead they seek out little boys? Why not little girls?

Many little girls were abused as well. link

Edited March 21, 2010 by scorpio

[Guest American Woman]

So instead they seek out little boys? Why not little girls? Why not women in general? I think this is more of a homosexual issue than anything else.

Message to gay men. If you're involved as a Priest in the church, leave, you don't belong there!!! Go get help if you're that messed up over your sexuality. You're born that way. Becoming a member of the church won't cure you.

You're confusing "gay" and "pedophile." You ask why they don't seek out women, but they don't seek out men, either, which they would do if they were gay, would they not? They are pedophiles, not "gay men."

[Shady]

You're confusing "gay" and "pedophile." You ask why they don't seek out women, but they don't seek out men, either, which they would do if they were gay, would they not? They are pedophiles, not "gay men."

Ok then, they're gay pedophiles.

[Shady]

Probably more because women are abhorred by the catholic church as soul-less abominations. Hence there are no female priests.

No, that's not true. Mary's status within the Catholic church is as high as anyone. And the reason there aren't any female priests has to do with how the church was originally founded, with Jesus and his disciples, all of whom were male. But this isn't the thread to get into the specifics of religious scripture, etc.

[Smallc]

Ok then, they're gay pedophiles.

Anything to bash gays, eh Shady?

[bloodyminded]

Ok then, they're gay pedophiles.

No, there is a distinction between adult sexuality and pedophilia. Those who tend to assault boys are not usually homosexual. In fact, most of the pedophiles who assault boys, if they DO have sexual attraction to adults as well (and most pedophiles do, contrary to popular belief)...are heterosexual.

[eyeball]

Message to gay men. If you're involved as a Priest in the church, leave, you don't belong there!!! Go get help if you're that messed up over your sexuality. You're born that way. Becoming a member of the church won't cure you.

I thought homosexuality was a matter of choice.

[bloodyminded]

I thought homosexuality was a matter of choice.

It depends entirely on what specific argument is trying to be made on a specific day.

[eyeball]

It depends entirely on what specific argument is trying to be made on a specific day.

But...I thought this sort of wishy-washy ambivalence was something only those on the left are guilty of.

It's so confusing.

[bloodyminded]

But...I thought this sort of wishy-washy ambivalence was something only those on the left are guilty of.

It's so confusing.

Typical lefty getting all confused. Also, you are obsessed with America. Further, you want to hug terrorists.

Edited March 28, 2010 by bloodyminded

[bush_cheney2004]

....Also, you are obsessed with America.

You sure would know sumptin' about this....LOL!

[bloodyminded]

You sure would know sumptin' about this....LOL!

Well, I keep hearing some little right wing Canada-obssessive make the claim...so yes, I know something about this sad attempt.

Edited March 28, 2010 by bloodyminded

[Moonlight Graham]

You're confusing "gay" and "pedophile." You ask why they don't seek out women, but they don't seek out men, either, which they would do if they were gay, would they not? They are pedophiles, not "gay men."

exactly

[eyeball]

Typical lefty getting all confused. Also, you are obsessed with America. Further, you want to hug terrorists.

Well...I'll be 54 this year and apparently I should be looking forward to thinking more like a conservative as I get older.

I'll tell you though, if going bald, growing breasts and having to pee more often is anything to go by I just don't know if I could handle being a conservative too. No wonder they seem so cranky all the time.

Edited March 28, 2010 by eyeball

[bloodyminded]

Well...I'll be 54 this year and apparently I should be looking forward to thinking more like a conservative as I get older.

I'll tell you though, if going bald, growing breasts and having to pee more often is anything to go by I just don't know if I could handle being a conservative too. No wonder they seem so cranky all the time.

Yeah, at 43, my impending conservatism too has yet to take.

[Guest American Woman]

American Woman, on 20 March 2010 - 10:53 PM, said: You're confusing "gay" and "pedophile." You ask why they don't seek out women, but they don't seek out men, either, which they would do if they were gay, would they not? They are pedophiles, not "gay men."

Ok then, they're gay pedophiles.

No, they're not "gay pedophiles." They are simply pedophiles. Attracted to children. Period.

.....if the victim is a boy, the assumption is that the offender is gay. And while this might seem to make sense, the vast majority of offenders identify as straight, regardless of the sex of their victim.

As this site (The Myth of the Gay Pedophile) explains, it has more to do with availability, as ease of access to the child, than the sex of the child.

Some research shows that for pedophiles, the gender of the child is immaterial. Accessibility is more the factor in who a pedophile abuses.

[Sir Bandelot]

No, that's not true. Mary's status within the Catholic church is as high as anyone. And the reason there aren't any female priests has to do with how the church was originally founded, with Jesus and his disciples, all of whom were male. But this isn't the thread to get into the specifics of religious scripture, etc.

Why not?

I mean, ordinary women. Average, sexual women. These women were killed by the thousands, between the 14th and 18th century.

In doing so, the church demonstrates its contempt for women throughout history. And I do not doubt that this contempt still exist, out of fear that such women can lead men away from god. As in, the original sin.

But is that not also quite a common viewpoint in some other religions, as well.

[ToadBrother]

No, that's not true. Mary's status within the Catholic church is as high as anyone. And the reason there aren't any female priests has to do with how the church was originally founded, with Jesus and his disciples, all of whom were male. But this isn't the thread to get into the specifics of religious scripture, etc.

It's certainly pertinent so far as celibacy, which was not an absolute until the 19th century (and still isn't for Eastern Rite and, with the invitation to High Anglicans, potentially those churches as well) may in fact be an underlying contributing factor.

The Church has taken an impossible position. Priestly celibacy is not doctrinal in nature, and yet it persists, even as evidence mounts that it has created a major problem that is going to end up costing the Church hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars, and damage its reputation incalculably.

The Church had a chance of JPII's death to pick a Pope more capable of handling this and a number of other divisive issues facing the Church. Instead, they picked JPII's chief henchman, a man lacking both JPII's charisma or the ability to see past the end of his nose. Much worse, of course, is a growing body of evidence that he was more than incidentally or organizationally culpable in some of these abuse allegations.

Edited March 29, 2010 by ToadBrother

[scorpio]

And the reason there aren't any female priests has to do with how the church was originally founded, with Jesus and his disciples, all of whom were male. But this isn't the thread to get into the specifics of religious scripture, etc.

Well, you brought it up. And women did go out with some of the disciples:

According to Clement of Alexandria, Peter and Philip were married

and had children, and Paul probably did, too. Their wives traveled

with the apostles "not as wives, but as sisters, in order to minister

to housewives" {19}. Clement also reports that Peter's wife was

martyred before him, and the apostle encouraged her as she was led to her death

link

[wyly]

Well, you brought it up. And women did go out with some of the disciples:

According to Clement of Alexandria, Peter and Philip were married

and had children, and Paul probably did, too. Their wives traveled

with the apostles "not as wives, but as sisters, in order to minister

to housewives" {19}. Clement also reports that Peter's wife was

martyred before him, and the apostle encouraged her as she was led to her death

link

I seem to recall there were women priests and part of the gospels were written by a woman...but a later Pope banished the women priests and had the gospel written by the woman destroyed, I believe the Coptics of Eygpt still have a copy or portion of the banished scripture...

no I'm not going to go digging through the internet finding the links it doesn't interest me enough to bother...

[wyly]

Well...I'll be 54 this year and apparently I should be looking forward to thinking more like a conservative as I get older.

I'll tell you though, if going bald, growing breasts and having to pee more often is anything to go by I just don't know if I could handle being a conservative too. No wonder they seem so cranky all the time.

:lol: thanks I needed that...