Conservative adscam

[DrGreenthumb]

Does anybody know how much the Conservatives are spending to campaign on the taxpayers dime with the heavy rotation of the "action plan ads" during the olympics?,(and in total).

[M.Dancer]

Orange

[Keepitsimple]

Does anybody know how much the Conservatives are spending to campaign on the taxpayers dime with the heavy rotation of the "action plan ads" during the olympics?,(and in total).

House.

[William Ashley]

Does anybody know how much the Conservatives are spending to campaign on the taxpayers dime with the heavy rotation of the "action plan ads" during the olympics?,(and in total).

As of october $34000000 (for the website alone)

The Privy council diverted $4000000 presumably from the program costs for "communications for the action plan"

My website costs me $10 a year.

See the difference.

$33999990

Each sign costs between $800 and $7000

There were bids for $200 production costs that were turned down.

This is another booking loopholes though because the provinces and municipalities are the ones who are forced to pay the inflated prices for the signs in order to be eligible for the project.

The actual ads probably cost upwards of the cost of an election. It's not their money they are spending, so they don't care.

It is called fiscal irresponsibility, embezzlement, and corruption.

The action plan itself is billions.

We won't know until all costs and associated costs are released to the public. I'm guessing like the Privy Councils diversion there could be other diversions to mask the actual spending by hiding the booking in obscurity.

Edited February 15, 2010 by William Ashley

[M.Dancer]

It's very important to keep your fosts low.

Do you have a link for the $34 million ad budget? Sounds about 5x high.

[YEGmann]

Please add choice of "over 100 thousand trillion dollars (CAD)" so that I can vote.

[Shady]

LOL. I love the over $1 billion dollars choice! Too funny.

[capricorn]

What I like about the Economic Action Plan ad campaign is that the ads were not all run in Quebec.

[Smallc]

What I like about the campaign is that it's campaign is that it displays Conservative hypocrisy yet again. Members here seem all to happy with this...but if it was the Liberals, well....

And Capricorn, you're right, the fact that this advertisement is being done for nothing, where the sponsorship scandal was designed to keep the country together makes it way better.....

[capricorn]

What I like about the campaign is that it's campaign is that it displays Conservative hypocrisy yet again. Members here seem all to happy with this...but if it was the Liberals, well....

If it was the Liberals, they'd have plenty of money to fight the next election.

And Capricorn, you're right, the fact that this advertisement is being done for nothing,

What? Were the ads free?

where the sponsorship scandal was designed to keep the country together makes it way better.....

That may have been the intended design but the outcome resulted in the Gomery inquiry and a Conservative government.

[Shady]

That may have been the intended design but the outcome resulted in the Gomery inquiry and a Conservative government.

But their intentions were good. With Liberals, it's all about intentions, regardless of the means or the results.

[Smallc]

That may have been the intended design but the outcome resulted in the Gomery inquiry and a Conservative government.

And, Quebec stayed...

[Smallc]

But their intentions were good. With Liberals, it's all about intentions, regardless of the means or the results.

Their intentions were good. The results were good. The means were bad. I still can't believe that Conservatives and conservatives support this reckless ad spending.

Edited February 16, 2010 by Smallc

[Moonbox]

And, Quebec stayed...

Yeah...that had everything to do with Chretien, and nothing to do with the fact that Montreal wanted nothing to do with seperation....

[capricorn]

I still can't believe that Conservatives and conservatives support this reckless add spending.

I can't believe that you can't believe that a government acts like a government.

[Smallc]

I can't believe that you can't believe that a government acts like a government.

I don't think as badly of the government as many people. Canadians in general don't think badly of government, even if they think it does bad things sometimes. The Conservatives were voted in because they were supposed to be different - better, than the Liberals. Now, the excuses are, "well, the other guy did it," or, "everyone does that." I don't think that's a very good excuse.

[Smallc]

Yeah...that had everything to do with Chretien, and nothing to do with the fact that Montreal wanted nothing to do with seperation....

Well, I didn't really mean to imply that it was the ONLY reason that they stayed, but it definitely is at least a small part of the reason.

[capricorn]

Well, I didn't really mean to imply that it was the ONLY reason that they stayed, but it definitely is at least a small part of the reason.

There's also OAS, OAS supplementary, transfer payments, the Canadian passport, the Canadian dollar, etc...Yeah, a whole lot of reasons I suppose.

[DrGreenthumb]

I read somewhere that the action plan signs alone were 45 million dollars. I would assume that the TV ads are a LOT more. I bet that adspace during the Olympics is at a premium rate too. If the Harper government keeps running these ads at the rate they are currently running, I would expect that the cost will be pretty damn near a billion. This shameless self promotion at the taxpayers expense is not that surprising when you look at the Conservatives pattern of abusing public funds tor their own political gains. Its like the householders and 10%ers but on a much grander scale.

[M.Dancer]

I read somewhere that the action plan signs alone were 45 million dollars.

I'm pretty sure you didn't

Maybe you read that the money could have been used for 45 million bottle tokes?

I would assume that the TV ads are a LOT more.

Well, if you want to base your assumptions on something you may have read...how long is a string?

I bet that adspace during the Olympics is at a premium rate too.

No...it the same as it always is...you pay according to ratings. The price for GRP for CTV Olympics will be about the same as it is for Flashpoint.

If the Harper government keeps running these ads at the rate they are currently running, I would expect that the cost will be pretty damn near a billion.

That's quite an expectation considering you don't know what they cost.

Its like the householders and 10%ers but on a much grander scale.

It's not but why let reality be a buzzkill?

Edited February 16, 2010 by M.Dancer

[Moonbox]

It's not by why let reality be a buzzkill?

I lol'd

[M.Dancer]

I lol'd

I nede a prrof reqader

[myata]

It really pi..es me off! Bloody stupid ads to buy my vote from me for my own money. But sigh.. with our love for the big brother, political apathy and reluctance to change we deserve all of these and future self serving political ads courtesy of our tax payer wholesale and more, possibly much more.

[Mr.Canada]

This isn't AdScam. Adscam was the Federal Liberals giving money to Quebec advertising companies for little to no work. These companies then used this money to hold Liberal fundraisers or donated part ofthemoney back to the Federal Liberal Party.

If the Tories are doing the same thing please prove it and I'll be right with you in denouncing them as I did the Federal Liberals.

All four parties asked for a massive stimulus package in the order of Billions of dollars, they got it. The Federal Tories are doing this in order to show where and how that money is being spent. This is called ebing transparant and informing the public to where their money is being spent. This is new for the federal Liberals I know, they aren't used to informing the public of anything and instead treat the public like babies who wouldn't understand what's going on. The Tories treat us like adults.

If they did nothing the perpetual victim brigade would be telling us how the Tories aren't telling us anything. So you see, damned if we do and damned if we don't.

[DrGreenthumb]

This is not being open and accountable it is using taxpayer money to fund Conservative ad spots, to the tune of about 56 million dollars. Open and accountable are the two things this government most definitely is not. There is nothing in the ad that tells where the money is being spent, only vague promises that they are actually doing something. It is a total waste of money like the 2 million they spent on the "action plan" website, that any high school kid could have made for about 200 bucks. In any case they are running the ad way too often and have been playing it way to long. They could have saved a lot of money by taking out ads in the want ad section of the papers instead of wasting millions on saturateing prime time TV with ads that every Canadian has already seen at least a hundred times. This is a scam to try and paint the tories in a better light because people are so angry at them for being secretive, and unnaccountable. Conservative adscam seems to be a fitting title for the commercial.