Machjo Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 If the IOC had a complaint about the ceremonies not having adequate French translation, I would expect the complaints would have come from the IOC and not from Canadian politicians trying to score points with Quebec voters. Agreed. If they have an issue, then they should bring it up discreetly with the IOC, not plaster it publicly for all to see. Again, the Olympics are for the world, not just one little country. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
GostHacked Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 French is represented very little in BC, if it is represented at all. Vancouver has a half white population, with Asians taking up most of the rest, and a very small black/middle east population. The french people in Canada reside in Quebec and Ontario. NS and NB. The less french the better in my view. As a Canadian my time is dually wasted with a French and English version of the same damn speech. Quote
Smallc Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) The less french the better in my view. As a Canadian my time is dually wasted with a French and English version of the same damn speech. How inconvenient for you The olympics are always in French and then English, even when not in Canada, because those are the two official languages of the Olympics. French speaking Canadians, like aboriginal people, are an important part of Canada's identity, culture, and history. Though I don't necessarily agree that there was too little French considering that it was in BC and not Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, or Nova Scotia, I certainly don't agree that there was too much. Edited February 16, 2010 by Smallc Quote
robert_viera Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 French is represented very little in BC, if it is represented at all. 54,745 people in B.C. reported French as their mother tongue in the 2006 Census: http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/demo11c-eng.htm 24,130 of them are in Vancouver: http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/demo12g-eng.htm Vancouver has a half white population, with Asians taking up most of the rest, and a very small black/middle east population. The french people in Canada reside in Quebec and Ontario. NS and NB. The less french the better in my view. As a Canadian my time is dually wasted with a French and English version of the same damn speech. No one cares about the views of bigots. Quote THE BROWN RETORT | Photos of householders and ten-percenters
fellowtraveller Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 French Voyageurs didn't populate my country, the one I live in. Brits, Ukranians, Germans, Metis from Red River, a score of others, but not voyageurs. They were travellers, not farmers. I found the inclusion of First Nations influences in the opening ceremonies to be appropriate and relevant in the context. Much more relevant than pretending that French culture, French language or Quebec are relevant except for a few statutory bilingual civil servants in Vancouver filling hiring quotas. These are not Canadas Olympics, it is a showcase for Vancouver, a city in Canada. Nobody talks about the Chinese Olympics or Australian Olympics- Sydney and Beijing. You'll also note that every sign says Vancouver 2010, none say Canada 2010 or Quebec 2010. And as always, that perceived slight is inevitable. Quebecs feelings are hurt because they are not the center of attention for a couple of weeks. Quote The government should do something.
Smallc Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 These are not Canadas Olympics, it is a showcase for Vancouver, a city in Canada. Actually, no, they're Vancouver's Games, British Columbia's Games, AND Canada's Games. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Vancouver 2010 with the five rings are the only signs I see. The Games were not awarded to Canada or BC. Quote The government should do something.
Smallc Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Whether you want them to be or not, these are Canada's games. The way Canadians feel about them and the funding support that were provided by the Government of Canada make that clear. The games are in Canada, and they are Canada's games. That would be true no matter which Canadian city was hosting them. Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) The games are in Canada, and they are Canada's games. And that's why someone who has lived in the USA for 20 years and has US citizenship run with the torch to light the BBQ... 'Cause it's Canada's Games Edited February 16, 2010 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Smallc Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 And that's why someone who has lived in the USA for 20 years and has US citizenship run with the torch to light the BBQ... He's not only American. Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 He's not only American. He's only american 'cause Canada was not Great enough... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Topaz Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 I'm sure that the people who think it lack French will forget all about when they see the winning medals are coming from mostly Quebec. Quote
Wilber Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 French is represented very little in BC, if it is represented at all. Vancouver has a half white population, with Asians taking up most of the rest, and a very small black/middle east population. The french people in Canada reside in Quebec and Ontario. NS and NB. Not very much but the Festival du Bois held in Maillardville draws a respectable crowd every year. I don't take this stuff very seriously. Whenever I hear a Quebec or Federal politician beaking off about the lack of French somewhere, I take it as being primarily intended for a Quebec audience. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
CANADIEN Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Yes, but there is so much diversity even just on the West Coast alone, where do we find the time to squeeze in every aspect of Canadian culture. Had this event been more focussed on West Coast culture, then the next Olympics, if held on the East Coast, for example, could have more adequately covered East coast culture, etc. And there would be cries about Quebec-this-and-Quebec-that from Coast to coast. Your idea would be great if the Games were awarded to a Canadian City once every ten year or so, or if it was strictly a Canadian. It is not. Quote
CANADIEN Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Vancouver 2010 with the five rings are the only signs I see. The Games were not awarded to Canada or BC. Yet, there is no doubt that it is Canada, not jsut Vancouver or BC, that is welcoming the world. Quote
CANADIEN Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) And that's why someone who has lived in the USA for 20 years and has US citizenship run with the torch to light the BBQ... 'Cause it's Canada's Games I must be one of those who dreamed about him being the greatest Canadian athlete ever, or how he rallied our Olympic Team against the big bad Yankees in 2002. Edited February 16, 2010 by CANADIEN Quote
CANADIEN Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 I don't take this stuff very seriously. Whenever I hear a Quebec or Federal politician beaking off about the lack of French somewhere, I take it as being primarily intended for a Quebec audience. Except that most of time they happen to be right. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) Yet, there is no doubt that it is Canada, not jsut Vancouver or BC, that is welcoming the world. Except for those folks dressed in black, right? Still, only in Canada can we find contentious, regional wrangling over the Olympics host city or province. I knew this would happen as soon as the gold medal was won by Alexandre Bilodeau. Vive le Québec libre! Edited February 16, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Still, only in Canada can we find contentious, regional wrangling over the Olympics host city or province. Yes, we'd never hear regional wrangling in any of the other federations of the world..... People with glass tea party sets shouldn't throw stones. Quote
Wilber Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Except that most of time they happen to be right. From your point of view I suppose but not necessarily others. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Yes, we'd never hear regional wrangling in any of the other federations of the world..... People with glass tea party sets shouldn't throw stones. Rewind.....Playback: It's Canada's Olympics....uh uh...it's Vancouver's Olympics...nope....it's BC's Olympics....bull...it's Canada's. OK...but it's Quebec's gold medal! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Except for those folks dressed in black, right? Interesting you should mention them. One of our radio reports was speaking to a newspaper reporter from Chicago, who said he recognized some of them as the being from the same bunch who were protesting against his city's bid. One of them is in the clink as we speak regarding an "immigration matter". Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Rewind.....Playback: It's Canada's Olympics....uh uh...it's Vancouver's Olympics...nope....it's BC's Olympics....bull...it's Canada's. OK...but it's Quebec's gold medal! Now Vancouver has one as well. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 Interesting you should mention them. One of our radio reports was speaking to a newspaper reporter from Chicago, who said he recognized some of them as the being from the same bunch who were protesting against his city's bid. One of them is in the clink as we speak regarding an "immigration matter". Oh, I'm sure that's the case, as these are professional protesters....organized anarchists. Frankly, video of the vandalism and clashes with police are far more entertaining than sappy figure skating or a curling snore fest! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted February 16, 2010 Report Posted February 16, 2010 I must be one of those who dreamed about him being the greatest Canadian athlete ever, or how he rallied our Olympic Team against the big bad Yankees in 2002. I have no doubt for a bigger paycheque he would have rallied his adopted nation to battle against the crazy canucks. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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