PIK Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 The charter of rights doomed this country, IMO it has made it impossible to govern,no matter what the govermnet or anyone does offends someone somewhere. Biligualism is creeping into eastern ont and deviding towns that never had a problem before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Curious how the Charter's scope only includes First Nations when it protects them from discrimination, and not, apparently, others from being discriminated against by First Nations. It's protection's don't seem to apply on the Kahnawake reserve which suggests it really isn't part of Canada after all. It's interesting that the government argues the Charter shouldn't protect Omar Khadr because he was outside Canada when arrested. Well slap me silly...a consistent policy...who would a thunk it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 It's protection's don't seem to apply on the Kahnawake reserve which suggests it really isn't part of Canada after all. It's interesting that the government argues the Charter shouldn't protect Omar Khadr because he was outside Canada when arrested. Well slap me silly...a consistent policy...who would a thunk it? Well, it's clear Afghanistan is not part of Canada. A whole raft of evidence would seem to prove that First Nations reserves, however, are, including the existence of the Indian Act and First Nations use of the Canadian Charter of Rights when it suits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Trudeau's government (Chretien actually) issued a policy in 1969 (The White Paper) about extending equality to aboriginal peoples across Canada: http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/ai/arp/ls/pubs/cp1969/cp1969-eng.asp Equality, however, meant giving up any claims First Nations would have to treaty rights, so they rejected the White Paper policy with a response known as Citizen Plus (The Red Paper): (key points) http://www.canadiana.org/citm/_textpopups/aboriginals/doc75_e.html The federal government soon dropped the idea of dropping Native services overnight and an era of corrupt band politics began, which we're still in. True, whites oppressed the Natives, but now it's Band Councils and Natives oppressing Natives, as well as whites. The only way First Nations will be better off in Canada is if they find a way to live within Canada as other cultures do. They need to embrace cultural syncretism and move into the heterogeneous society that has been built here. Edited February 10, 2010 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Trudeau's government (Chretien actually) issued a policy in 1969 (The White Paper) about extending equality to aboriginal peoples across Canada: http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/ai/arp/ls/pubs/cp1969/cp1969-eng.asp Equality, however, meant giving up any claims First Nations would have to treaty rights, so they rejected the White Paper policy with a response known as Citizen Plus (The Red Paper): (key points) http://www.canadiana.org/citm/_textpopups/aboriginals/doc75_e.html The federal government soon dropped the idea of dropping Native services overnight and an era of corrupt band politics began, which we're still in. True, whites oppressed the Natives, but now it's Band Councils and Natives oppressing Natives, as well as whites. The only way First Nations will be better off in Canada is if they find a way to live within Canada as other cultures do. They need to embrace cultural syncretism and move into the heterogeneous society that has been built here. Nah. Myth. Fiction. And propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Hear, hear! And the criminal race is such a noble breed, their robbery, raping, and murder a way of getting in touch with the gentle spirit of Mother Earth. Only a barbarian would opress these people merely because of the colour of their bandanas. [c/e] "gentle Mother Earth?" Most of them are Catholics or some other Christian Sect. Hence the words "Hell" and "Angels" Edited February 11, 2010 by Shwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) The Hell's Angels origin has zero to do with religion. Edited February 11, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The Hell's Angels origin has zero to do with religion. ...and a lot to do with the Air Force... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 ...and a lot to do with the Air Force... Yes...the 303rd Bomb Group in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The Hell's Angels origin has zero to do with religion. Indeed. And therein lies the evidence of the sarcasm that stuffed my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Hear, hear! And the criminal race is such a noble breed, their robbery, raping, and murder a way of getting in touch with the gentle spirit of Mother Earth. Only a barbarian would opress these people merely because of the colour of their bandanas. [c/e] poverty tends to do that to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 poverty tends to do that to people. So does government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 So does government. Kahnawake government, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 poverty tends to do that to people. Yeah...cause the Hells are filled with the impoverished... what horse crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Nah. Myth. Fiction. And propaganda. Charter you're always bang on with your answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Charter you're always bang on with your answers We all are. Some can back up their bang on answers. CR can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 We all are. Some can back up their bang on answers. CR can't. Rightwingers are too narrow-minded and phony to be bang on with their answers. Also factor in mentality of a "punkass-teens" and your answers become very twisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 We all are. Some can back up their bang on answers. CR can't. I have backed up unrefuted citations but lazy people like you don't read them. So your poor education is self-inflicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yeah...cause the Hells are filled with the impoverished... what horse crap... You're right. What was I thinking? There's no correlation between poverty and crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 The Hell's Angels origin has zero to do with religion. No? Then where did those words come from? Random thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You're right. What was I thinking? There's no correlation between poverty and crime. Uh huh....no correlation between poverty and some crime. Is their a correlation between poverty and insider trading? How about rape? Arson? What ever.....the notion that the Angels sprung from poverty is without merit. Now had you said that the Angels make there money from the impoverished, you would be closer to the truth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 No? Then where did those words come from? Random thoughts? No...as mentioned, the 303rd Bomb Group from WW2. At least according to Sonny Barger. http://www.303rdbg.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) No...as mentioned, the 303rd Bomb Group from WW2. At least according to Sonny Barger. http://www.303rdbg.com/ No. I think you are referring to the phrase "Hell's Angels.' I was referring to the unmarked words 'hell' and 'angel.' They sound like Christian words to me, at least in the most common modern usage on this side of the world, wouldn't you agree? Edited February 16, 2010 by Shwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) No. I think you are referring to the phrase "Hell's Angels.' I was referring to the unmarked words 'hell' and 'angel.' They sound like Christian words to me, at least in the most common modern usage on this side of the world, wouldn't you agree? Which of course has all the relevance of the sound of a fart in space. Hell is also a town in Missouri, a place in Switzerland and a street in holland. Angels are investors on broadway, detectives on TV and a baseball team in Anaheim. BTW, how many angels can you parse on a pinhead? Edited February 16, 2010 by M.Dancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 There is a mohawk professor on CBC right now explaining why they have racist laws. His explanation rests on the fact that they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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