Terrorists 'plan attack on Britain with bombs INSIDE their bodies&

eyeball · February 1, 2010

It is phenomenal, however the effectiveness of the response has been equally phenomenal. There have been terrorist threats to the west before, but as of 2001 it had been a long while since anything substantial had happened from external agents. The end of the cold war, and engagement with Palestine are two factors that brought that situation about.

In the long term, the Borg that is the western Globalized ideal - with its religious freedom and its prosperity - appears to be the favoured mode of government, and therefore the most likely to succeed. There don't seem to be as many people interested in emigrating to religious republics and dictatorships.

Corporations are people don't forget. They seem perfectly content to emigrate to these, especially any with natural resources to plunder.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

There'd sure be a lot less of them being started or sustained in any case.

You bet. Plus without America to bully others, countries like Iran and China can finally come up to the plate and shine like the true humanitarians they are.

eyeball · February 1, 2010

You bet. Plus without America to bully others, countries like Iran and China can finally come up to the plate and shine like the true humanitarians they are.

Don't you mean Canada too? Sorry, I had to get that in before BC did.

I can't think of anything that would cripple Iran and China faster than if they tried to emulate the west's interfering ways at the same scale. The best way to deal with any who do is to stop importing the stuff they make and stop exporting the stuff they make it with.

GostHacked · February 1, 2010

Me to.

If it does, you can say it was an 'inside job'.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

Don't you mean Canada too? Sorry, I had to get that in before BC did.

I can't think of anything that would cripple Iran and China faster than if they tried to emulate the west's interfering ways at the same scale. The best way to deal with any who do is to stop importing the stuff they make and stop exporting the stuff they make it with.

Oh I know! China and Iran are far too busy elevating the spirit of the common man to bother 'diddling' with other countries.

Wilber · February 1, 2010

Don't you mean Canada too? Sorry, I had to get that in before BC did.

I can't think of anything that would cripple Iran and China faster than if they tried to emulate the west's interfering ways at the same scale. The best way to deal with any who do is to stop importing the stuff they make and stop exporting the stuff they make it with.

Of course you then have to find a way to stop them from comming and taking it as well as finding away to pay for it.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

Of course you then have to find a way to stop them from comming and taking it as well as finding away to pay for it.

Oh they'd never do that...take what they want by force.

Wilber · February 1, 2010

Oh they'd never do that...take what they want by force.

Course not, only the wicked West would do something like that.

eyeball · February 1, 2010

Oh I know! China and Iran are far too busy elevating the spirit of the common man to bother 'diddling' with other countries.

Well I think Iran is really small potatoes in the scheme of geo-political diddling but China is clearly a different story. It's our own fault for getting into bed economically with them and thereby elevating their ability to be diddlers.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

Course not, only the wicked West would do something like that.

Maybe we should be like Fawlty...

Oh I see...it's my fault for hiring O'Reily...you're a naughty boy, Fawlty (to self: starts spanking self)

Edited February 1, 2010 by DogOnPorch

eyeball · February 1, 2010

Oh they'd never do that...take what they want by force.

Why wouldn't they given the example the west has provided? China is famous for it's knock-off versions of western products.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

Well I think Iran is really small potatoes in the scheme of geo-political diddling but China is clearly a different story. It's our own fault for getting into bed economically with them and thereby elevating their ability to be diddlers.

Damn staright...before Nixon, China was a paragon of virtue.

Wilber · February 1, 2010

Well I think Iran is really small potatoes in the scheme of geo-political diddling but China is clearly a different story. It's our own fault for getting into bed economically with them and thereby elevating their ability to be diddlers.

Yup, the wicked West is responsible for the actions of everyone on the planet. One day we will understand.

Edited February 1, 2010 by Wilber

Oleg Bach · February 1, 2010

Average people only get caught in the cross fire of terrorism..It's not like they are the real targets or anything. As certain empires over the decades plundered and used as many nations as possible - it is surprising that our powers that be have not figured out the cause of terrorism...It is because you screwed them into poverty - Finally - the realists are dealing with the situation properly BRIBING them - It has never been about God and religion - or any sort of ideaolgy...it has always been about econimics - Those that control our wealth and money supply have one rule - crush and subjugate their own country men and woman..and give them nothing! So it's not much of a stretch to imagine how our powerful elite handled those that are not domestic bretheren...It's about power mongering and greed - If they would have stuck half the money into these "terrorist" nations that they spend on destroying them - there would be peace by now - but their is no profit in peace for these ass holes.

Wilber · February 1, 2010

Maybe we should be like Fawlty...

Loved that show. Cleese could be so excruciating it could be draining to watch for even a half hour. Genius. One of my favourite bits was when he beat the crap out of his car with a branch while hurling epithets at it as only he can.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2010

Loved that show. Cleese could be so excruciating it could be draining to watch for even a half hour. Genius. One of my favourite bits was when he beat the crap out of his car with a branch while hurling epithets at it as only he can.

One of my favorites as well.

Assigning blame is similar to the above scene while beating the car reminds me of dealing with some posters here.

:lol:

Oleg Bach · February 1, 2010

Yup, the wicked West is responsible for the actions of everyone on the planet. One day we will understand.

The west is not wicked persay - nor is the east - Those that have taken power in the east are wicked and those in power in the west are wicked also - that is the nature of power..You have to hurt people...the common person inf the west or east are good - we just have a lot of badly behaved jerks that control both sides...creeps .

Oleg Bach · February 1, 2010

White and fat Bitish elite wanted brown slaves and increase the immigration of them in hope of gaining eternal wealth but never expected those slaves to rebel. What the hell is this idea that increasing a population increases prosperity? Apparently they let the draw bridge down expecting gold and got rats instead.

Michael Hardner · February 1, 2010

Corporations are people don't forget. They seem perfectly content to emigrate to these, especially any with natural resources to plunder.

Very stretchy point you have there. Corporations are people that need money to breathe, not air, so yes they will go to Iraq or Indonesia. The rest of us want peace and prosperity, so "the West" (others here like to call it that more than me) is it.

Maybe we can start talking about new hybrid forms of government, progressions from the modified capitalist\socialist hybrid we have today but we need to move forward, not backward.

eyeball · February 1, 2010

Very stretchy point you have there. Corporations are people that need money to breathe, not air, so yes they will go to Iraq or Indonesia. The rest of us want peace and prosperity, so "the West" (others here like to call it that more than me) is it.

Maybe we can start talking about new hybrid forms of government, progressions from the modified capitalist\socialist hybrid we have today but we need to move forward, not backward.

Maybe after we start talking about hybrid forms of armies and networks of terror, Like al Queada and the west's military-industrial complexes.

Corporate people want prosperity...peace is merely a hoped for by-product so long as it doesn't cut into the prosperity.

Wilber · February 1, 2010

Maybe after we start talking about hybrid forms of armies and networks of terror, Like al Queada and the west's military-industrial complexes.

Corporate people want prosperity...peace is merely a hoped for by-product so long as it doesn't cut into the prosperity.

Actually it is the opposite, while there are always some who profit by war, it is almost always bad for trade.

Argus · February 1, 2010

The argument can be made that the success of that particular endeavor was a one-time-only event.

All the successes are one time events. That's the problem. As the saying goes, we have to succeed every single time. They only have to succeed once. And with all the radical fanatics - and their numbers continue to grow - there's no shortage of wack jobs willing to sacrifice themselves for Allah.

jbg · February 1, 2010

The argument can be made that the success of that particular endeavor was a one-time-only event.

The underwear bomber almost succeeded.
The train bomber(s) in Spain succeeded.
The subway bombers in London succeeded.
The Bali nightclub bombers succeeded.

They're batting pretty well, eh?

maple_leafs182 · February 1, 2010

The underwear bomber almost succeeded.

The train bomber(s) in Spain succeeded.

The subway bombers in London succeeded.

The Bali nightclub bombers succeeded.

They're batting pretty well, eh?

What do we expect, you can't go starting wars in other countries without pissing people off.

If they lose their family of friends in that war, they are going to be pissed and eventually someone will want take revenge.

Terrorists are just people like you or me.

Stop listening to the propaganda filled news.

We are using missiles and tanks to kill them, is that any more humane then strapping dynamite to your chest and killing people.

War is Terrorism.

This whole war on terrorism is insane, there is no logic behind it.

eyeball · February 1, 2010

Actually it is the opposite, while there are always some who profit by war, it is almost always bad for trade.

Well sure it is, but the people who are profiting from it are also in charge. Why should they care? They're laughing all the way to the bank. What's to stop them at this point, their consciences? Dream on.