Mr.Canada Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world, and in 2009 more than 165,000 Christians will have been killed because of their faith, most of them in Muslim countries..."Hamas digs up the bodies of Christians from Christian burial sites in the Gaza Strip claiming that they pollute the earth," 200-300 million Christians are being persecuted in the world, 80 percent of whom lived in Muslim countries and the rest in communist and other countries. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1260447421970&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull Christians are targeted every day, every three minutes in a Muslim country. What are we going to do about it? Why does the news suppress this information? We Christians need to open our eyes and stop believing what the news and TV is telling us. The world is a very different place then what the CBC tells us isn't it? We need to start waking up to what's really going on in the world around us and really stop fighting amongst ourselves and unite together as Christians. Many of our Christian brothers and sisters are being targeted and killed for believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins and in the western world, what do we do? Nothing, say pass the chips and dip. This is unacceptable, it's time for action. It's time to show our support and to try to put pressure on our government and on the news agencies to start reporting the real news, all of it. Not just what they want us to know, not just the stories with a socialist bend but all the news. The people deserve to know the truth. We can start today. Later on today I will be editing this post with the email addresses of all the major news agencies in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I agree. When do you leave for the Middle East? And be sure to clean your rifle before you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Whatever happened to turning the other cheek? And while we are at it, when did Grampa Simpson convert to militant Christian evangelism? I must have missed that episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I had a feeling this was started by Mr.Canada. Another drive-by-post? Mr. Canada sure loves his Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGreenthumb Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Maybe we should do the Christian thing and torture them back eh Mr.C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 A Christian is tortured every 3 minutes in the Muslim world. And he's getting pretty damn sick of it... Doesn't Mr. Canada already have a thread on this topic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 And he's getting pretty damn sick of it... Doesn't Mr. Canada already have a thread on this topic ? Multiple. Almost 6 now I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Christians are targeted every day, every three minutes in a Muslim country. What are we going to do about it? Why does the news suppress this information?\ I dunno. What are you going to do about all the Bahai attacked in Iran, the Falun Gong in China, the thousands of native children who were raped by workers for Christian organizations in Canada? The world is filled with tragedies, but the one thing that no one need worry about is the extinction of Christianity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Lots of people are tortured in the Muslim world. It's appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassTax Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) I dunno. What are you going to do about all the Bahai attacked in Iran, the Falun Gong in China, the thousands of native children who were raped by workers for Christian organizations in Canada? The world is filled with tragedies, but the one thing that no one need worry about is the extinction of Christianity. Couldn't agree with you more here. On a side-note christians might be "tortured" in the muslim world however you might want to define that word, Here the muslim world is persecuted/discriminated against at roughly the same frequency//. I refuse to fall into the ignorant muslim hating ritual. Remember not all muslims are extremist fundamentalists. Generalizations. pfft. Edited December 21, 2009 by BrassTax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Then how is it that a prime candidate for PM of Lebanon is a Christian? I'm not denying that Christians get tortured in Muslim countries. I don't know if it's the case so I'll keep quiet on that. I do know though that Christians are by no means the primarey target of religious prejudice in the Muslim world though. None of this changes the fact though that clearly from the Lebanon experience, Christians and Muslims can co-exist. Shalom, Salam, Peace, Paco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 This is good to know cause while the atomic clock is very accurate, we need a low tech way to keep time if society collapses....we can the the Xtian torture clock...based on 3 second intervals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I agree. When do you leave for the Middle East? And be sure to clean your rifle before you go. Whatever happened to turning the other cheek? And while we are at it, when did Grampa Simpson convert to militant Christian evangelism? I must have missed that episode. How about a little reciprocity. Either we're welcome there and they're welcome here or we part company peacefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Christians do get tortured in the Muslim world. Lots of other people get tortured in the Muslim world too. The Muslim world is, by and large, a piece of crap. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Christians do get tortured in the Muslim world. Lots of other people get tortured in the Muslim world too. I'm sure other Muslims get tortured in Muslim world too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 How about a little reciprocity. Either we're welcome there and they're welcome here or we part company peacefully. So if John beats Brad, we should not only distance ourselves from John but also from his kind-hearted brother Bill because he happens to be John's brother? As if it's not bad enough to not turn the other cheek to to John, we should also show our contempt to Bill because of his blood relation. Brilliant. Or how about we treat persons as individuals and recognize that just because a person happens to live in a n oppressive country, that does not automatically mean he supports his government's policies any more than a Canadian necessarily agrees with his government's policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I'm sure other Muslims get tortured in Muslim world too. Maybe we should just call it the religious world. Places like Uganada are Christian and not exactly postcard destinations. Let's call it the religious world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Maybe we should just call it the religious world. Places like Uganada are Christian and not exactly postcard destinations. Let's call it the religious world. Religion, to put it bluntly, is just a placeholder, a tribalistic display like the color of your favorite team's jersey. To one extent or another, religion simply serves as a backdrop for a wider society. If that society fears and despises women, then the religion will declare women dangerous and needing subjugation (read the Bible, and look at how women were treated in the West even up to the 19th and early 20th centuries). If slavery is necessary for the economic system in place, why then religion declares slavery good and proper (look up the Southern Baptist Convention's history if you don't believe me). There will always be fanatics, of course. Us English-speaking folks had our own homespun religious fanatics in the various non-comformist groups, in particular the Puritans. Some of them even managed a civil war and a coupe that saw a king relieved of the weight of his head and a rather dour government which pretty much frowned on anything resembling public displays of joy, bringing to an end a golden age of the English-speaking peoples. Religion is the slave of the dominant members of the society. It exists, from that perspective, simply to propagate those ideologies that will best serve them. The Muslim world is no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Religion, to put it bluntly, is just a placeholder, a tribalistic display like the color of your favorite team's jersey. To one extent or another, religion simply serves as a backdrop for a wider society. If that society fears and despises women, then the religion will declare women dangerous and needing subjugation (read the Bible, and look at how women were treated in the West even up to the 19th and early 20th centuries). If slavery is necessary for the economic system in place, why then religion declares slavery good and proper (look up the Southern Baptist Convention's history if you don't believe me). I agree with you. I couldn't find another way to group the nations together. While I do think that religion is a placeholder, those countries also wear religion on the jerseys more readily than a constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Religion is the slave of the dominant members of the society. It exists, from that perspective, simply to propagate those ideologies that will best serve them. The Muslim world is no different. I agree with you. I couldn't find another way to group the nations together. While I do think that religion is a placeholder, those countries also wear religion on the jerseys more readily than a constitution. I am growing tired of people attempting to overlook and explain away the obvious; that the vast bulk of savage incidents are somehow Islam-related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I am growing tired of people attempting to overlook and explain away the obvious; that the vast bulk of savage incidents are somehow Islam-related. Not as tired as I am of having people implying a certain religion causes violence. I have been reading about this for years now, and still haven't had anybody prove that the religion is to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Whatever happened to turning the other cheek? And while we are at it, when did Grampa Simpson convert to militant Christian evangelism? I must have missed that episode. Real believers never reveal themselves. Hence they are never detained caught or tormented- only fools cry out the Lords name in utter vanity...and they get what they get..most so-called Christians practice the opposite..and in effect are anti-christists...As for turning the other cheek that was so the man would be forced to hit you with the flat of the hand coming up for the second blow...the flat of the hand was made to induce friendship- it was a joke of sorts---only an idiot believes in taking abuse ...and the church made millions of idiots- Christ was truthfull not allow idiotic ideas such as being smacked more than once...once is one to many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I am growing tired of people attempting to overlook and explain away the obvious; that the vast bulk of savage incidents are somehow Islam-related. There are lots of savage incidents all of the world. Could you please provide the statistics by which you proclaim that the Muslim world has more than other groupings in the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I agree with you. I couldn't find another way to group the nations together. While I do think that religion is a placeholder, those countries also wear religion on the jerseys more readily than a constitution. You're coming at this from a civilization that has largely secularized itself. But that process included a period of incredible brutality. The religious wars that engulfed Europe, in particular during the Thirty Years War, but in other attrocities as well, were what ultimately "scared us straight" so to speak. Still, a whole lot of Christians joined together in Central Europe to kill a few million Jews well within the living memory of many people still alive. I'm not saying the Muslim world doesn't have enormous problems, but religion is a convenient bit of armor for those using it to manipulate the masses in those countries, and a convenient scapegoat for those who would probably hate Islam no matter how violent or peaceable its adherents were. People seem to take this period of time as being somehow odd, and yet Islam and Christendom (in whatever form they have taken over the last 1,400 years) have spent much of their time in competition and at war. Certainly, for a rather large part of this long struggle, Christendom has been the greater aggressor, and just because we've all tossed off the chains of religious servitude and fanaticism doesn't mean that in some parts of the world, memories are still long about what has gone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 There are lots of savage incidents all of the world. Could you please provide the statistics by which you proclaim that the Muslim world has more than other groupings in the world? The latest was at Detroit Airport this weekend (link). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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