Pliny Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 There's no such thing as liberal mainstream media It's all owned by multinational corporations that want you to think it represents a "liberal" viewpoint so that you don't rise up and kill them all. No need to rise up they are dying a slow death. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
Shady Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Posted November 23, 2009 There's no such thing as liberal mainstream media. LOL. How many AP fact-checkers were there for Barack Obama's books? Answer. Zero. How many mainstream media members waited in line to talk to Obama supporters at his book signings, and then challenged them on their support for him? Answer. Zero. Just recently an MSNBC reporter got in a debate with a 17 year old girl at a Palin book signing. Insanity! Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 Just recently an MSNBC reporter got in a debate with a 17 year old girl at a Palin book signing. Insanity! And one day maybe you'll realize Obama is just as corporate as any Republican. You will whine about the "liberal" media while they gradually absorb the middle class until you realize they are probably more right wing than you are. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Posted November 24, 2009 until you realize they are probably more right wing than you are. Yes, I'm sure they're very right-wing. It's probably just a mistake that they favour everything left of center on an absolutely consistent basis. And someday I'm sure it'll rain $1000 bills too. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 Yes, I'm sure they're very right-wing. It's probably just a mistake that they favour everything left of center on an absolutely consistent basis. And someday I'm sure it'll rain $1000 bills too. Shady, it's all in how you define "left". The top tax rate under one president is a fraction of the top tax rate under another president - who is the most left ? Answer that, then consider that Eisenhower is the president with the high tax rate in our example, Clinton is the one with the low tax rate. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Oleg Bach Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 I want to know one thing in regards to people like Ann Colter...WHY does this babe have the Adams apple of a man? Is this opportunist supposed righ winger a medical construct? Is she actually a man? I am curious about that - I have to curb my homo-errotic leanings towards her if my perception of her is true-- I hate to be fooled. If she is a man - that would make her so extremely right that she would pop out left - just like that big manly ball in her throat...strange. Quote
Shady Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Posted November 24, 2009 Shady, it's all in how you define "left". The top tax rate under one president is a fraction of the top tax rate under another president - who is the most left? You're right, it's more of a Democrat leaning media than right vs left. I want to know one thing in regards to people like Ann Colter. Who brought up Ann Coulter? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 You're right, it's more of a Democrat leaning media than right vs left. Who brought up Ann Coulter? 1. On that we can agree. I will absolutely concur that the media leans Democrat, although I feel that organizations other than Fox try harder to be objective. Maybe that's why they have to say 'Fair and Balanced' as they're slogan. Kind of like Cheezies that say 'made with real cheese' on the package. Shouldn't I have assumed there was cheese in cheezies ? 2. Oleg brought up AC, and specifically her gender and his ambivalent feelings towards it. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Shady Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Posted November 24, 2009 1. On that we can agree. I will absolutely concur that the media leans Democrat, although I feel that organizations other than Fox try harder to be objective. Maybe that's why they have to say 'Fair and Balanced' as they're slogan. I would agree with you on that. But I would also add that Fox News was born out of the slanted mainstream media. It created it from their own bias. 2. Oleg brought up AC, and specifically her gender and his ambivalent feelings towards it. Ok. Well, to answer Oleg's question. Everyone has an adam's apple. Even women. It's just that usually a woman's isn't very noticable. You couldn't have looked that up yourself? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted November 24, 2009 Report Posted November 24, 2009 1. On that we can agree. I will absolutely concur that the media leans Democrat, although I feel that organizations other than Fox try harder to be objective. Maybe that's why they have to say 'Fair and Balanced' as they're slogan. Kind of like Cheezies that say 'made with real cheese' on the package. Shouldn't I have assumed there was cheese in cheezies ? 2. Oleg brought up AC, and specifically her gender and his ambivalent feelings towards it. I was impressed with the last interview with Gloria Stein. She seems like a fine woman and a likeable real feminist of the old school. AC is not a feminist nor is she female in the true sense..she kind of reminds me of some really mischievious arch angel that got kicked out of heaven.. If right winged females as personifed by AC are ambivalent about sex..and it's natural applications..then you would wonder if AC has become a new proto-type of feminist - like most of our aging feminists who have abandoned their sisters and their cause - and have become men who lust after wealth and power...which AC seems to be doing - I did not hear her scream out in protest about cutting back on breast exams and early treatment - IF AC has abanonded the cause of feminism - then we are in danger of a new type of racist - anti-feminist monster. A monster that indiscrimately persecutes blacks - whites - males and females - She might be the forerunner of a type of auto cannibalism that is about to beset society? Quote
Shady Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Posted November 24, 2009 I was impressed with the last interview with Gloria Stein. She seems like a fine woman and a likeable real feminist of the old school. AC is not a feminist nor is she female in the true sense..she kind of reminds me of some really mischievious arch angel that got kicked out of heaven.. If right winged females as personifed by AC are ambivalent about sex..and it's natural applications..then you would wonder if AC has become a new proto-type of feminist - like most of our aging feminists who have abandoned their sisters and their cause - and have become men who lust after wealth and power...which AC seems to be doing - I did not hear her scream out in protest about cutting back on breast exams and early treatment - IF AC has abanonded the cause of feminism - then we are in danger of a new type of racist - anti-feminist monster. A monster that indiscrimately persecutes blacks - whites - males and females - She might be the forerunner of a type of auto cannibalism that is about to beset society? What exactly does that have to do with the topic at hand? If you wanna gripe about Ann Coulter, feminism, old-school feminists, racist anti-feminist monsters, and auto cannibalism, fine. But start another thread. Otherwise, it's just another one of your Shakespearean soliloquys about nothing. Quote
Shady Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Posted November 25, 2009 Another example of Bubber's "right-wing" media! Guy Benson at National Review extrapolates that at the Times, "it's unacceptable to direct readers to hacked private emails that fundamentally disrupt a lefty meme-of-the-decade, but it's totally cool to direct readers to hacked private emails of the lefty bete noire-of-the-year." Revkin's statement displays a profound double standard in the Times's reporting on leaked information. It managed, in the last sentence of the Caucus Blog post, to turn Palin's email leak into an attack. Yet in the case of the ClimateGate emails, which were obtained in a near-identical manner and contain similarly sensitive and personal communications, the Times suddenly finds ethical misgivings in publishing the information. The paper's reservations appear to be a veiled attempt to shield the left's global warming narrative from criticism Link Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Nope, not at all. In fact, there's very little that the 11 fact-ckeckers found that needed correcting. Oh yes, they did. FACT CHECK: Palin's book goes rogue on some facts There are several "facts" that needed correcting. Give it a read and educate yourself. Edited November 25, 2009 by American Woman Quote
Shady Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Posted November 30, 2009 Oh yes, they did. FACT CHECK: Palin's book goes rogue on some facts There are several "facts" that needed correcting. Give it a read and educate yourself. What you posted doesn't refute the fact that they found very litte, 6 so-called errors in her 400 page book. It took 11 AP reporters to investigate. But it also leads back to my initial question. How many AP reporters fact-checked Obama's book? Exactly. Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 30, 2009 Report Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) So a lie is an "error" when a conservative says it? And this is a thread about liberal bias? Edited November 30, 2009 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Posted November 30, 2009 So a lie is an "error" when a conservative says it? And this is a thread about liberal bias? No, so-called error. For example: PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels. THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business. So the AP admits that "Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor" So travel reports back up what she said. But because once, her and her daughter stayed at a higher end hotel, it's somehow counted as an error in her book. Ridiculous. The rest of the so-called errors are similar in manner. Quote
ironstone Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Because it's not true? AP has done lots of fact-checking of Obama's speeches and of Obamacare. Why, they even fact-checked Sarah Palin's claim about death panels and found she was lying. The truth hurts. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/ap-fact-check-no-death-pa_n_256486.html So how many AP reporters were assigned to fact check then Senator Obama's book?Remember,here was a man,relatively unknown just a few years ago,with a rather thin resume and with little executive experience taking a run at the highest office in the world.So how many AP fact checkers were assigned to go over his book?According to the news report I watched recently.....none. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
BubberMiley Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 So how many AP fact checkers were assigned to go over his book?According to the news report I watched recently.....none. Uh...Do you honestly think everything Obama has ever said hasn't been fact-checked up the yin-yang already? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted December 4, 2009 Author Report Posted December 4, 2009 Uh...Do you honestly think everything Obama has ever said hasn't been fact-checked up the yin-yang already? No it hasn't. Not his books. Quote
ironstone Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 Uh...Do you honestly think everything Obama has ever said hasn't been fact-checked up the yin-yang already? I think most of the major tv news networks(FOX excepted)didn't do a very thorough job of highlighting Obama's association with some very radical types.He launched his political career in the home of William Ayers,one of the founders of the Weathermen/Weather Underground...a violent terrorist group.I would wager that most Obama supporters haven't a clue who Ayers is and his connection to Obama.Glenn Beck even read a quote from Obama's book in which he admits he sought out the most radical types he could find.He seems to have some fascination for these way out radicals.If not for FOX news,how many Americans would know that Obama appointed a Communist(since resigned)to the position of Green Jobs Czar?There is most definately a liberal bias in the media. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
BubberMiley Posted December 4, 2009 Report Posted December 4, 2009 No it hasn't. Not his books. You think that when Obama says anything, there isn't a cabal of people out there doing their best to make sure he isn't lying? You perceive yourself as a lone voice in the wilderness? I think you give yourself too much credit. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
ironstone Posted December 5, 2009 Report Posted December 5, 2009 You think that when Obama says anything, there isn't a cabal of people out there doing their best to make sure he isn't lying? You perceive yourself as a lone voice in the wilderness? I think you give yourself too much credit. This "cabal" apparently does not seem to include anyone from AP,again,FOX being the exception. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
bloodyminded Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 Her revelance can be directly measured by how her enemies and opponents have been acting since the election. They haven't given her a moment of rest and have been attacking her on many fronts. She must be one tough lady, and certainly a threat to their cause of advancing liberal nonsense. I was LOL whilst reading the Globe and Mail, they've had several pieces on her and her book this week. The amount of hissing going on was hysterical! Of 4 or 5 pieces that I read, all were women. The lone male, Rex Murphy, didn't cut her to pieces but gave an honest analysis of her charisma and what he thinks is its source. No doubt his co-workers will shun him for the next month and drain the coffee before he gets a cup in the morning. Sure...of five reviews you claim you read, only the man's was any good. Let's remember Murphy's usual method: servility to power. For instance, during the run-up to the Iraq War, he completely dismissed and derided all opposition to the war (ie the world's majority); meanwhile, he said that the war's proponents and supporters "deserved" serious and sober consideration. In other words, the monority of reactionaries and propagandists should be listened to, while the majority of people cautious and thoughtful should be ridiculed. Just because the man is articulate doesn't mean he's wise. He's a bit of a buffoon, in my view. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 At any rate, all falsehoods in "Palin's" book should be considered as culpable by TWO people: Palin did not write her book, lest we forget. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Shady Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Posted December 13, 2009 AP fact-checkers for Palin’s book: 11 AP fact-checkers for Climategate: 5 Link Quote
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