Canada is a Catholic Country

[August1991]

The only Catholic US President was Kennedy.

We Canadians have had many Catholic PMs. (Laurier, Clark, Turner, Martin...)

It is impossible to understand Canada, and the difference between the US and Canada, without understanding this demographic fact.

To seek Canadian votes, Protestant Anglophones tread with care. I think they must somehow appear to be humble but competent. (??? Pearson and Diefenbaker were our last non-Catholic PMs.)

[maplesyrup]

Who cares what religion someone is?

It is a personal matter between the individual and their God or whatever, if do not believe in God.

[August1991]

Who cares what religion someone is?

I agree MS. But in a democracy, I want to know what a potential leader believes. (I'm choosing someone who will choose in my place.)

More broadly, about 50% of Canadian voters are Catholic. About 20% of American voters are Catholic.

Lapsed Catholic or not, political spin doctors in the US and Canada operate differently. Why?

I have never heard this "Catholic Canada" idea discussed on CBC/Radio-Canada. Why?

It is a personal matter between the individual and their God or whatever, if do not believe in God.

Bury the problem? Keep it in the closet? Like gays and lesbians?

[playfullfellow]

Looking at what August has to say, I guess I have never really thought of it before but we have in fact had many catholic PM's. I do not know whether this has any bearing but for years it seems that the majority of private schools were catholic. I think it would be interesting to see what school systems our PM's have gone to.

I agree MS. But in a democracy, I want to know what a potential leader believes. (I'm choosing someone who will choose in my place.)

I also want to know where a polititians base belief comes from. At least knowing where a persons basic religious belief is, then you can get a fairly good idea of what to expect from that person. There is nothing wrong with a political person being religious as long as he follows the wishes of his constituents. If an area has a majority of church going people, why should they not be able to elect a person who has a religious background? If a person is an agnostic, then it is extremely difficult to see where they are coming from aside from what they say in public.

[August1991]

Bump.

[punked]

I agree

[jdobbin]

Bump.

I think you ought to get it straight what Catholic is. Protestants believe that Catholics are the entire body of believers in Christ.

That would mean Dief and Pearson were Catholic too.

If you mean that Canada has had a lot of Roman Catholic leaders then I think you are correct. However, I don't think that means Turner and Clark became prime minister because they were Roman Catholic, do you?

And let's not go so far as to say Michael Ignatieff is a Roman Catholic. If you make that argument then Anglican are Roman Catholics too.

[Mr.Canada]

I think you ought to get it straight what Catholic is. Protestants believe that Catholics are the entire body of believers in Christ.

That would mean Dief and Pearson were Catholic too.

If you mean that Canada has had a lot of Roman Catholic leaders then I think you are correct. However, I don't think that means Turner and Clark became prime minister because they were Roman Catholic, do you?

And let's not go so far as to say Michael Ignatieff is a Roman Catholic. If you make that argument then Anglican are Roman Catholics too.

I find this topic silly and won't respond to it. I agree with dobbins. THe topic isn't clear in its scope.

[August1991]

That would mean Dief and Pearson were Catholic too.

Like Bush and Carter?

It has always been a source of astonishment to me that WASP Canadians in Toronto didn't understand the true nature of their country. Canada is Roman Catholic; the United States is not.

Edited December 21, 2008 by August1991

[Goat Boy©]

More broadly, about 50% of Canadian voters are Catholic. About 20% of American voters are Catholic.

I have a hard time believing that that many Canadians are actively religious.

But hey, according to stats;

Somebody with their head in the freezer and feet in an oven, will be on average.....comfortable.

[August1991]

I have a hard time believing that that many Canadians are actively religious.

Ask anyone raised as a Catholic or Protestant, or raised in a family of either lapsed or not, whether any of this matters.

Does it?

Years later, John F. Kennedy was the only (Obama is Protestant) Catholic US President. Ontario has only had two Catholic PMs: McGuinty and a Macdonald elected in the open-minded time of Confederation. In our open-minded time, Harper is the first WASP PM since Pearson (I'll ignore Campbell.) Yes, Warren Kinsella is Catholic as are many Liberals.

It is impossible to understand French Canada without an understanding of Catholicism. But what too few understand is that English Canada is also Roman Catholic. It is impossible to understand the North American Left, Canada and the success of the federal Liberal Party without reference to Roman Catholicism in North America. Who works for the CBC?

Canada is a Catholic country.

Edited December 21, 2008 by August1991

[stignasty]

Bump.

Why?

File Under: Big F***ing Deal.

[jdobbin]

It has always been a source of astonishment to me that WASP Canadians in Toronto didn't understand the true nature of their country. Canada is Roman Catholic; the United States is not.

You've made the claim. What do you think it means? Why do you think it is important? Do you think someone should be angry about it?

[whowhere]

Ask anyone raised as a Catholic or Protestant, or raised in a family of either lapsed or not, whether any of this matters.

Does it?

Years later, John F. Kennedy was the only (Obama is Protestant) Catholic US President. Ontario has only had two Catholic PMs: McGuinty and a Macdonald elected in the open-minded time of Confederation. In our open-minded time, Harper is the first WASP PM since Pearson (I'll ignore Campbell.) Yes, Warren Kinsella is Catholic as are many Liberals.

It is impossible to understand French Canada without an understanding of Catholicism. But what too few understand is that English Canada is also Roman Catholic. It is impossible to understand the North American Left, Canada and the success of the federal Liberal Party without reference to Roman Catholicism in North America. Who works for the CBC?

Canada is a Catholic country.

What does it mean to be a catholic? To believe in Jesus? If that is the case it doesn't matter if you are catholic, protestant, anglican, blah, blah, blah!!! It's all the same crap. I have known many people who wear jesus on their sleeve but know shit about what he supposedly said and expected of people. These people tend to operate at a certain level of arrogance which I believe will rain down on them the contempt they deserve. Their actions don't reflect or represents jesus's ideals. What is true of most Christians is their demented belief they can "sin" all they they want and all is forgiven?? Really??

To put Jesus into perspective he represented the Tearing up of God's Laws brought about by Moses and Jesus Sacrificed his Life for Jesus's Beleivers sake. Those who believe in Jesus are supposedly able to break God's Law's without concern of punishment. OK, but in return Christians have a new Commandment which is?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...3&version=9

34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Is Canada this Loving Country?? Like fak it is.

After watching the exorcism of Emily rose (based on a true story) I felt pity on the masses who are subjected to the brainwashing trash of Christianity.

There is one God and He is the God of Jacob. Case and point. In these economic times I think its natural for people to gravitate towards a deeper undertanding of the forces that shape our lives. For me I am beyond Religion because I know from my observation Canada is not a Christian Country of any sort. Traditionally it may have been but today's Canada is your God.

Your God is Health Canada, Environment Canada, Academic Canada, Scientific Canada who are telling you what to think and believe through television and the media. They have sold you multicuralism because your God (Canada) hated God so much it had to play whore with the world. Like all whore's, The God Of Jacob will deal with you accordingly

In anycase people of Canada should look at the broader picture beyond their relentless hate of Quebec and those of Quebec and look in the mirror! The pure lain Canadian has its origins stemming into Europe which Europe stems into the Roman Empire. At the modern linguistical Root is the Roman Alphabet which was used to recreate scores of Languages around the world (Including Russia!). This root is what Binds Billions!!!! of people around the world.

So you people of Canada think how you think There is nothing special or unique about you but your actions speak for themselves.

[margrace]

If you want to find out how good so called Chiristianity is go back and read about the horror so the Spanish Inquisition, or read about the Crusaders who couldn't distingish a Christian from a Moore. All they were interested in was the spoils of war.

It hasn't changed much

[Michael Hardner]

margrace,

You're the other type of religious bigot that's on here - well placed with the many anti-Muslims, you will attribute murders that happened 1000 years ago to people who are doing good work today.

It's quite shameful, and intolerant for you to do that.

[Mr.Canada]

margrace,

You're the other type of religious bigot that's on here - well placed with the many anti-Muslims, you will attribute murders that happened 1000 years ago to people who are doing good work today.

It's quite shameful, and intolerant for you to do that.

I agree with you here. Events 1000 years ago have no direct impact on today. Christian groups donate more money and hold more fundraisers than all other groups combined.

[Topaz]

Talking about religion, just causes heated arguments and no one wins. Why not agree that no religion is perfect and within each religion there are negative people who do negative things to others and leave it there. As far as a PM of Canada, I'm more concerned with his IQ, common sense, and his love for his country and bring the country together rather than parting it.

[Goat Boy©]

Talking about religion, just causes heated arguments and no one wins. Why not agree that no religion is perfect and within each religion there are negative people who do negative things to others and leave it there. As far as a PM of Canada, I'm more concerned with his IQ, common sense, and his love for his country and bring the country together rather than parting it.

Religion is like a gun. It's designed to do good things, it's designed to do bad things. The difference is in the person that uses it.

The only constant full time negative effect that I can see, is the segregation. Religion always creates us & them. Segregation breeds contempt.

[eyeball]

Who cares what religion someone is?

It is a personal matter between the individual and their God or whatever, if do not believe in God.

I would say several hundreds of thousands perhaps millions of Canadians care deeply enough that they would never vote for an atheist just on sheer principle alone. Sad but true.

[Michael Hardner]

Religion is like a gun. It's designed to do good things, it's designed to do bad things. The difference is in the person that uses it.

Cop: "What happened to your business partner ?"

Perp: "I shot him with my snub-nosed Presbyterian when I was cleaning it."

[whowhere]

Religion is like a gun. It's designed to do good things, it's designed to do bad things. The difference is in the person that uses it.

The only constant full time negative effect that I can see, is the segregation. Religion always creates us & them. Segregation breeds contempt.

Stand for something, stand for nothing.

Stand for right, stand for wrong (old testament)

Stand for nothing, forgive all (new testament)

Stand for nothing, you dullard, you idiot undestand nothing, listen to your new god (Governmenent, Media)

[kuzadd]

I was raised and indoctrinated roman catholic....

and religion has no place in the politics of a nation.

[scribblet]

Talking about religion, just causes heated arguments and no one wins. Why not agree that no religion is perfect and within each religion there are negative people who do negative things to others and leave it there. As far as a PM of Canada, I'm more concerned with his IQ, common sense, and his love for his country and bring the country together rather than parting it.

Well said !!!

This whole argument about religion is simply a political tool with which to scare people, guess it works on some.

[scribblet]

I agree with you here. Events 1000 years ago have no direct impact on today. Christian groups donate more money and hold more fundraisers than all other groups combined.

Just let me know when they start blowing up subways and using their kids as human bombs then I'll start worrying.